Do I have to use calories earned from Excercise?
laungier
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I'm frustrated! - I've been working out really hard and dieting for the past four weeks and haven't lost anything!
I go to the gym somedays and do crosstrainer and then a spinning class, other days just crosstrainer and treadmill i.e. I mix it up so my body doesn't get used to the same thing.
I'm burning off 1000 calories in some sessions.
This programme adds the calories burned to my daily intake so does that mean I am supposed to consume more food?!?! I do defintely feel more toned and sleep great etc but God I'd like to see some reduction in the scales please!!
Any advice from anyone who has experienced the same greatly appreciated!!
I go to the gym somedays and do crosstrainer and then a spinning class, other days just crosstrainer and treadmill i.e. I mix it up so my body doesn't get used to the same thing.
I'm burning off 1000 calories in some sessions.
This programme adds the calories burned to my daily intake so does that mean I am supposed to consume more food?!?! I do defintely feel more toned and sleep great etc but God I'd like to see some reduction in the scales please!!
Any advice from anyone who has experienced the same greatly appreciated!!
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Hey there,
No you most certainly do not have to use those calories ( in my opinion) I felt the same at a stage and sometimes still do! If you can feel teh differnece in your body then it is a good start!
I have only lost 6.5kg but i have lost 37.5cm
Always remember that : Muscle weighs more than what fat does!
Keep at it and dont let it demotivate you!! xx0 -
Thanks for your reply!! I'm looking to lose about 4.5 Kilos in time for my 40th Birthday in September so after a month of nothing I was in a panic thinking this is never going to happen.
But I am going to be religious about recording my food and excercise and fingers crossed I will hopefully see something soon.
I never measure myself at the start of this fitness campaign - I should do that and see what the difference will be there!
Thanks again
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I do not eat mine back. As far as not losing any weight, you could be counteracting the weight by gaining muscle. There was another post about a woman who lost inches but not weight, there might be inches lost somewhere that you cant see.0
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If not eating them back doesnt help, try eating them back. Cant hurt. It does help some people.0
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MFP says eat them back and scolds you if you don't. But without measuring your food precisely, there is room for error, and even with a good HRM, there is some room for error, much less if you're relying on MFP or the machines at the gym to tell you how many calories you burned, which leaves a lot of room for error, as does a cheap HRM like mine that is really over-optimistic on how much I burn.
So to some extent I go by how I feel. Am I hungry? I eat back some exercise calories. Am I fine? Then I don't force myself to eat unless I absolutely know I've been low on calories for a day or two and will soon get dizzy from it. Then I will force something down.
If you're taking diet pills or otherwise suppressing your appetite this might not work, though.0 -
Ditto to what everyone else said. Muscle weighs more than fat. When I started dieting I lost 4-5 pounds per week from just changing my eating habits (I'm obese) but when I started working out the weight loss dropped to about 2 pounds per week. I can definitely tell a difference in how my clothes fit though. Keep it up!0
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Does this forum have a search function?0
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Always remember that : Muscle weighs more than what fat does!
I have to respectfully disagree with this quote. Muscle does not weigh more then fat. Muscle takes up less space then fat but weighs the same. If you can, you should have your body fat % calculated and your measurements done.
I do eat back my workout calories. Since January only twice have I gain and that was about a lb each time. Last Monday I gained a pound and this monday I was down 1.8lbs. There are days where I just can't eat all of it back because I'm just not hungry.
Best of luck on your journey. :flowerforyou:0 -
You just have to figure out what is best for you. I eat back about half of the calories burned.0
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Maybe only try eating half back. That's mostly what I do and it works better for me. Also, have you measured any difference. I saw on here where a girl looked like she had lost 30 lbs from gym, etc. but stayed the exact same weight--she looked toned and wonderful. Keep up the great work, it'll pay off. Take care!!0
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I just went through this same thing. I had been working extremely hard burning calories 5 days a week at the gym! I was not eating back my calories that were burned, at first! THe first 3 weeks I lost 7 pounds, yay! BUT, then I gained 2 pounds over the next 2 weeks, urgh!! And wasn't losing any weight for weeks!! Last week I started eating most of my calories back and I have already lost 4 pounds! So I think it depends on your body. You might give eating back your calories a try and see if it helps you
It is what is working for me! 0 -
Some people say to eat it back, others say don't. I personally don't, but I do know that it's different for everyone.0
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This can depend on how much calories your taking in to begin with. If your not taking in enough calories your body will go into starvation mode....ie you can be taking in say 1200 calories but your bodie is needing 1500-2000 so every calorie your body dose take in is being converted to fat to save its own *kitten* (literally). This was something that was pointed out to me when i first started.0
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MFP suggests a daily net calorie intake to result in 1 lb of weight loss per week.
1 pound equals 3500 calories.
3500 divided by 7 days equals 500 calories per day. Our MFP daily number already has that 500 calories subtracted.
When we exercise, that green number goes up, because MFP expects us to eat back your exercise calories to keep your net daily calorie intake steady; that's how MFP works. Read this to learn more.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/23912-links-in-mfp-you-want-to-read-again-and-again
And This:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/10589-for-those-confused-or-questioning-eating-your-exercise-calo
Just follow the MFP recommendations for healthy, steady and lasting results.
You could reduce quicker, but what would be the quality of that weight loss?
It could lead to increased muscle loss, and that stifles metabolism.
No, eat right, exercise - both cardio and resistance, lose weight in such a way that maintains health and preserves lean body mass which burns more calories at rest.
Good luck to you.:flowerforyou:
All Is Possible!0 -
Always remember that : Muscle weighs more than what fat does!
I have to respectfully disagree with this quote. Muscle does not weigh more then fat. Muscle takes up less space then fat but weighs the same. If you can, you should have your body fat % calculated and your measurements done.
I do eat back my workout calories. Since January only twice have I gain and that was about a lb each time. Last Monday I gained a pound and this monday I was down 1.8lbs. There are days where I just can't eat all of it back because I'm just not hungry.
Best of luck on your journey. :flowerforyou:
Frankly, neither of these statements make any sense. You need to put it into context. Think about it for a second.0 -
As long as you don’t drop below 1500 Calories a day with all you’re exercising than you really don’t need to eat back your calories you burn through exercising. You body needs about 1500 Calories a day to maintain daily functions but beside that most people don’t need more than that. Dropping below that approximate 1500 Calories can cause your body to go into starvation mode and damage you in the long run.
I only use the burn off calculator for exercising to make sure I don’t go majorly over my calorie limit and even on the days I hit the gym I still try to stay on that excess calorie side of thing (where it says I could eat more).
Don’t be discourage about what the scale says like most people have said before you could be offsetting weight lost with muscle gain. Another way to track weight/fat lost is to measure your self every month or so and most gyms will give you a free body fat test too. Those tests might not be the most accurate in the world but if done on a regular basis can help track fat lost and muscle gain. So far I only lost 30lbs in about 5 years of trying to loose weight but I started out being about 75% body fat originally and now down to between 35-40% body fat and a lot slimmer waist line.
If your cloths seem looser on you and you need a new belt ever once and a while then that is a good sign you’re loosing fat and gaining muscle. Just make sure you belt isn’t to loose or you might loose your pants standing up at work, which has nearly happen to me a few times.0 -
I have always tried to eat back at least 30% of my exercise calories, and some days almost all of them. The proof is in my ticker...0
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Eat em' if you're hungry. In your case, I don't see how you could not be starving after all that cardio. Try eating some at least. good luck. don't worry, the body is smarter than the person is. one day i may eat 1300-1400calories and eat 2000+ on another day. your body won't be cheated of the nutrients and food it wants no matter what day you decide to put it in there. ideally you want a more even spread not my example, so eat up.0
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I, too, cringe when I hear the old adage, "muscle weighs more than fat does". Not true. A POUND of muscle weighs the same as a POUND of fat. The difference is in the SIZE of that pound. Muscle takes up less volume, so a pound of muscle takes up much less room than a pound of fat. The best way to tell if you're losing weight is by how your jeans fit -- honestly. A good pair of jeans can tell you more about your weight loss than any other piece of clothing in your closet. If your jeans are getting loose, especially when they have just been taken out of the dryer, that's a good sign. Hang in there! It will come if you keep with it.0
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I use a heart rate monitor to estimate calories, and weight/measure my food. I absolutely do eat the calories back! Unless I'm full. What kinds of food I eat make a difference. Another thing to consider is that when I do intense high level exercise I don't lose weight. Even if my measurements and fitness level change. If I don't eat enough food I also don't lose weight. Food is the biggest factor. Fitness makes you look good and be healthy. It boosts your metabolism allowing you to eat more food without gaining weight, because those extra muscles "eat" more to stay maintained. The weight loss will eventually show up. Just keep going and know you are improving yourself. The scale is not always the best judge of progress.
A tip: Eating nutritionally calorie dense foods earlier in the day on high exercise days will also help your workouts and your weight loss. You will build more lean muscle and lose the fat instead easier than starving and exercising like a anorexic. I can't work out hard, or burn as many calories, or recover well, when I don't fuel up well. Therefore you will look much sexier if you eat enough for the body sculpting you are trying to do.0 -
Always remember that : Muscle weighs more than what fat does!
I have to respectfully disagree with this quote. Muscle does not weigh more then fat. Muscle takes up less space then fat but weighs the same. If you can, you should have your body fat % calculated and your measurements done.
I do eat back my workout calories. Since January only twice have I gain and that was about a lb each time. Last Monday I gained a pound and this monday I was down 1.8lbs. There are days where I just can't eat all of it back because I'm just not hungry.
Best of luck on your journey. :flowerforyou:
Frankly, neither of these statements make any sense. You need to put it into context. Think about it for a second.
Which weighs more - muscle or fat
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This is a common myth. The easiest way to understand this is to look at it this way...
5 lbs. of fat is much bulkier than the 5 lbs. of muscle, but five pounds is still five pounds. Muscle does not weigh more than fat.
Fat is bulky and lumpy so if you carry an extra five pounds of fat, you'll be lumpier than with five pounds more muscle. A five pound pile of fat will take up more space (volume) than a five pound pile of muscle; but five pounds is still five pounds.
A woman weighing 150 pounds with 19% fat will look much smaller (and be much healthier) than a woman at 150 pounds with 35% fat. They weigh the same, yet the composition is different. Because muscle is more dense than fat the person with less fat and more muscle will look smaller.
Taken from: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Which_weighs_more_-_muscle_or_fat0 -
Always remember that : Muscle weighs more than what fat does!
I have to respectfully disagree with this quote. Muscle does not weigh more then fat. Muscle takes up less space then fat but weighs the same. If you can, you should have your body fat % calculated and your measurements done.
I do eat back my workout calories. Since January only twice have I gain and that was about a lb each time. Last Monday I gained a pound and this monday I was down 1.8lbs. There are days where I just can't eat all of it back because I'm just not hungry.
Best of luck on your journey. :flowerforyou:
You are right about it weighing the same amount to a point, but as far as mass of both, if they are the same mass, then the muscle would weigh more, Thats more on the lines of what people mean by that.0 -
Don't let the scale mess with your head. It's way too easy to become obsessed with that number. I weigh myself every day (I know I shouldn't). My weight bounces around all over the place from day to day.
Like Twizted said, you are exercising a lot and may be gaining muscle. Muscle is denser than fat. Also, variations in your hydration levels and stomach/intestine contents will influence the numbers.
Look for other indicators. How your clothes are fitting? Are you seeing changes in your face?
FWIW - I generally don't eat back my exercise calories either.0 -
Make sure you are at atleast 1200 calories in your net calories. More depending on your BMR 0
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Muscle doesn't weigh more than fat. Common misconception. 1lb of muscle weighs the same as 1lb of fat. The difference is the "space" it takes up.
http://www.saobart.com/1-pound/ (visual of 1lb muscle vs 1lb fat)0 -
Hi,
I am not sure how much weight you need to lose, but I was about 225 and I was in your situation. I was taking classes at my gym and dieting for 4 months and it just didn't seem to be helping me lose anything. My doctor told me that the kinds of exercises I was doing were more likely to build and tone muscle and since muscle weighs more than fat, I was not going to see a drop on the scales. She suggested I try more cardio to burn fat calories. Most of the classes I went to were interval training classes, and I felt the way you feel; more toned, more energy, better sleep, etc., but when I started doing more cardio and less strength training, I definitely started seeing a difference. It has been about 8 wks now and I am 202lbs. Hope this helps.0 -
The major point of spin class is to burn calories. If it didn't, the classes would be empty. So if you really don't want to eat more, then you need less cardio. You should, in general, be eating enough for your chosen activity level.0
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I have a heart rate monitor to more closely estimate my caloric burn, and I eat back some of mine on all days. Some days, I eat back most or all. Some days I go over by a bit. It all averages out.
mfp already has you set at a HEALTHY deficit for weight loss-regardless of whether you exercise or not. To go too far below that number (with exercise calories added back in) puts you at an unhealthy deficit.
This is not a race... it's a lifestyle. If it isn't sustainable, you can't call it a lifestyle...
**I wanted to add--about eating back some of mine--I do sometimes eat only SOME, but I upped my daily intake to match my BMR and do not eat below that. mfp had me at 1200, and that was too low, IMO...0 -
Been struggling as well. I go to the gym at least 3 days a week and generally work out more than the 150 minutes/week that's recommended. I wish I had thought to measure myself before I started going to the gym. While I have only been a member of this site for a week, I can honestly say that although my scale has had minimal change, the shape and definition in my body has definitely improve. I am looking forward to seeing what the results will be when I add in the more rigid tracking of calories in and calories out. Good luck!0
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I would start measuring. Sometimes the scale can really discourage you and those times are when measuring is your best friend.
As far as calories go--eat what you want, if you don't want to eat all your calories, then don't!
On days that I exercise I don't want to eat but other days when I don't exercise I'm hungrier so sometimes I'll go over a tiny bit on those days. I do like to leave excess calories, sometimes I leave some, sometimes I don't.
People are often saying that the calorie burned amounts are incorrect so I wouldn't suggest eating all the calories at all. I've seen some people eat only 80% back and leave 20% uneaten.
Thing is you didn't say whether you eat them all back or not.. If you DO eat them all back and aren't losing pounds then maybe you want to cut back on caloric intake.
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If you're eating a certain amount without taking exercise into consideration and aren't losing... then your question would be I'm not eating them, should I? Cause some people DO lose more weight by eating more.
I was looking for a recent post I Saw about how this chick upped her calories from 1400-1500 to 2000-2100 (with exercise in both amounts) and lost a ton of more weight.
However her is one where a girl was eating way less calories than a person needs:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/577479-seriously-eat-more-i-did-and-look-what-happened-pics?hl=eat+more
IDK what your situation is, good luck figuring it out!!!
And also, it might be water weight, etc etc, there's a TON of reasons why you could not be losing.
I for one have camel-itis--severe water retention that makes it impossible to lose sometimes. So I just keep working out.0
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