Wait!!! stop Dieting...new study released..lol

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  • TitanGM
    TitanGM Posts: 1,161 Member
    BS.
  • LesliePierceRN
    LesliePierceRN Posts: 860 Member
    That's some scientific gospel there, I can tell. Geez. IF you discount diabetes and hypertension (oh, by the way, they are directly related to diet and exercise, or lack thereof, actually, but let's not split hairs.) Do you realize how many people you'd be throwing out of the mix if you didn't count diabetes and hypertension? Who's left? Fit people.
  • neverstray
    neverstray Posts: 3,845 Member
    That's the most ridiculous article I have ever read.
  • CommandaPanda
    CommandaPanda Posts: 451 Member
    MSN needs to start making changes and stop making excuses!
  • chivalryder
    chivalryder Posts: 4,391 Member
    So....

    How many obese people have diabetes and/or hypertension? 80%? 90%? Sure, if you count them out, morbidly obese people may live longer than skinny people. After all, skinny people go out for walks. They're at higher risk of being hit by a car.
  • Josette89
    Josette89 Posts: 244
    Haha, that's stupid. They are trying to take back what they've said for years because they realize how much money they would be losing. Makes me sick. I work in hospitals.... I see heavy people that are ill all the time. It is directly related to their weight.
  • akjmart2002
    akjmart2002 Posts: 263 Member
    What in the actual f**k?!
  • emnk5308
    emnk5308 Posts: 736
    Oh my goodness. You've got to be kidding. "It's okay to be morbidly obese, as long as you aren't underweight!"..
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    Well, technically the article is true. Obese people, that don't have chronic illnesses, are no more likely to die than anyone else. Underweight people may not have enough actual body fat to support healthy metabolic activity. The problem with the theory is the fact that Obesity tends to cause chronic illness, so the VAST majority of obese people will still die of chronic disease.
  • Melanie_RS
    Melanie_RS Posts: 417 Member
    well, technically we all have a diet. so if we stopped dieting, we'd all die.

    ;)
  • Silverkittycat
    Silverkittycat Posts: 1,997 Member
    Well, technically the article is true. Obese people, that don't have chronic illnesses, are no more likely to die than anyone else. Underweight people may not have enough actual body fat to support healthy metabolic activity. The problem with the theory is the fact that Obesity tends to cause chronic illness, so the VAST majority of obese people will still die of chronic disease.

    That DON'T have is right. I really don't see many elderly obese people..
  • TauTheBull
    TauTheBull Posts: 96
    I can't wait to be old then!
  • HelloSweetie4
    HelloSweetie4 Posts: 1,214 Member
    aww sweet! so I'm going to eat whatever I want now, because as long as I don't get a chronic illness I won't die! :laugh: oh, MSN, you crack me up with your terrible humor...
  • Silverkittycat
    Silverkittycat Posts: 1,997 Member
    I can't wait to be old then!

    lolllzzzz.. silly!!!

    I'm not biting!
  • chlorisaann
    chlorisaann Posts: 366 Member
    That's some scientific gospel there, I can tell. Geez. IF you discount diabetes and hypertension (oh, by the way, they are directly related to diet and exercise, or lack thereof, actually, but let's not split hairs.) Do you realize how many people you'd be throwing out of the mix if you didn't count diabetes and hypertension? Who's left? Fit people.

    Just to be devil's advocate.... I do not have even the slightest hint of diabetes, perfect BP and Excellent cholesterol, but at 320lbs I don't think you can exactly call me FIT.... Not that I am saying this article has any merit... just saying fit people are not the only ones left....
  • Silverkittycat
    Silverkittycat Posts: 1,997 Member
    I'm sorry but that study is a joke. Ridiculous. The guy writing the article is interested in riling people up, that's all.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    OK, here's what the study really found.
    An analysis of records following patients for six years shows that being overweight or mildly obese was not associated with an increased risk of premature death. Being severely obese was, but only if the extra pounds were accompanied by diabetes and high blood pressure.
    Makes sense. Being slightly overweight does not cause any specific health risks on it's own.
    According to their analysis, severely obese people were 1.26 times more likely to die over the course of the study than people in the normal group. But once people with diabetes and hypertension were eliminated from the data, severe obesity was no longer associated with increased mortality.
    More mildly obese and overweight people, meanwhile, had similar or even lower death rates than people of normal weight. (In fact, the risk of premature death associated with diabetes was lower for mildly and severely obese people than for lighter people.)
    Those with the highest risk of premature death: Underweight people.
    So here we see the real statistic. Diabetes and hypertension were associated with higher mortality, actual body size doesn't really make a difference. Again, that should pretty much be a no brainer, people with chronic disease are more likely to die than people without disease.
    "Our findings indicate that the risk of having an above-normal BMI may be lower than in the past," Jerant said in the statement. "While this study cannot explain the reasons, it is possible that as overweight and obesity have become more common, physicians have become more aware of associated health issues like high blood pressure, cholesterol and blood sugar, and are more aggressive about early detection and treatment of these conditions."
    So basically doctors may have been slightly alarmist about body weight.

    So, nothing really mind-blowing in this study.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48125762#.T_zviI5CjBN

    Here's a link to a better article discussing this, since I don't have a link to the actual study.
  • HorseWithNoName27
    HorseWithNoName27 Posts: 188 Member
    LOL, no.

    Being overweight puts you at risk for diabetes, hypertension, heart disease, high cholesterol, on and on. So yeah...I think I'll keep trying to lose weight...
  • uglyhobo
    uglyhobo Posts: 108 Member
    Msn and/or Yahoo Health, not even once.


    so much broscience everywhere...
  • pullipgirl
    pullipgirl Posts: 767 Member
    Looks like a"non-story" article to make up for slow news day
  • JuneBPrice
    JuneBPrice Posts: 294 Member
    Science never seems to be able to make up it's mind on things like this. Like wine, one week they say it's the antichrist, the next, it's good for you. I actually had a girl try to tell me that I was going to "become stupid" because I drink coffee.
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