Apologies for the newbie question about muscles, but...

Okay... I know this is sort of a newbie question, but I AM a newbie to exercise. I've been trying to work out ,or at least get a good walk in, almost every day. I've even been doing short (very short!) bursts of jogging in my walks. In my pre-MFP days, I NEVER exercised. At all. Could the fact that I'm doing it now be doing something to my muscles, making me GAIN weight?

I'm eating at a deficit of about 500 calories less than my TDEE, which is approximately 1800-2000, depending on if I do formal exercise that day (though I do admit I could be eating a bit better, veggie-wise). I started at 160, dropped to 155, and now I am consistently sitting at around 158. Thoughts? Thanks!

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  • robhigareda
    robhigareda Posts: 47 Member
    From that little of exercise you wouldn't see any muscle being generated that would cause weight gain (NOT trying to put down your exercise at all, please don't read it that way)

    To me it sounds like you are still taking in far too many calories. I would wager to bet that you should probably be in a 1500-1600 calorie range to loose 1-1.5lbs per week with the little exercise you are doing.

    It's also going to be about what types of food you are eating and when, calories are important, but what type of calories is wayyyyy more important.
  • rowdylibrarian
    rowdylibrarian Posts: 251 Member
    Sorry, I should clarify...my TDEE is 1800--2000 (according to my Fitbit), so I'm eating 1300-1500....
  • konamouse
    konamouse Posts: 21
    Take a good look at the exercise you are doing. If it's significantly more movement than before MFP, yes you can increase muscle mass (even slightly). Also things that can "plateau" your progress: water shift (you may be sodium sensitive), underestimating your intake, your TEE calculation is not true to your real TEE (calculation are just estimates), overestimating your exercise, decreased lifestyle activity (i.e. increased sedentary time).

    Want to shock your system? Try some interval training (i.e. alternate jog with your walk, or stairs with flat). Try 20 sec as fast as you can, 10 sec slow (called "Tabata").

    Want to increase your lifestyle expenditure of energy? Walk instead of drive, stand instead of sit, take the stairs instead of the elevator, during TV commercials do air squats, FIDGIT when you are sitting (don't sit still).

    kona
    Registered Dietitian, Crossfit Masters
  • mcarter99
    mcarter99 Posts: 1,666 Member
    I have the same thing happen, rowdy. And yes, walking more than usual can even cause it sometimes. Going from sedentary to taking walks DOES work your walking muscles and make them stronger so something is going on. Are we ADDING muscle tissue? Probably not, or at least not much, but something's happening. Water, I guess. But I think what's happening is a good thing and a precursor to positive changes, in my experience.

    You're obviously NOT overeating, so ignore that. Your Fitbit is probably a good gauge, so also ignore the 'overestimating exercise' comment.

    How long has it been that the scale's been stuck? For me, it can take a while. No change for 3 weeks or more then WOOSH 2-4 lbs. drops overnight. Hang in there!
  • RuthieCass
    RuthieCass Posts: 247 Member
    Take a good look at the exercise you are doing. If it's significantly more movement than before MFP, yes you can increase muscle mass (even slightly). Also things that can "plateau" your progress: water shift (you may be sodium sensitive), underestimating your intake, your TEE calculation is not true to your real TEE (calculation are just estimates), overestimating your exercise, decreased lifestyle activity (i.e. increased sedentary time).

    Want to shock your system? Try some interval training (i.e. alternate jog with your walk, or stairs with flat). Try 20 sec as fast as you can, 10 sec slow (called "Tabata").

    Want to increase your lifestyle expenditure of energy? Walk instead of drive, stand instead of sit, take the stairs instead of the elevator, during TV commercials do air squats, FIDGIT when you are sitting (don't sit still).

    kona
    Registered Dietitian, Crossfit Masters

    If you are at a deficit, it is unlikely you gained much, if any muscle. If you just started weight lifting, you may see a small amount of newbie gains, but it will definetely not be 3 lbs of muscle gain. My guess is that it's mostly water weight that you're seeing. Try weighing yourself after a rest day (and don't eat too much sodium or go carb-crazy on the rest day), first thing in the morning, and comparing that to your previous weights. And avoid the scale during your TOM.

    My other thought is that you should try to minimize the effect of some estimation errors. For one, use a food scale. Being off in portions can really make a difference in calories. Two, if you "eat back" exercise calories, try to eat back no more than 3/4 of them. MFP tends to overestimate those (and even some HRM can be off). If your TDEE is, say 1800, and you are trying to NET 1500, these two mistakes alone can cause you to be really eating at your TDEE instead of a deficit.

    If you are not used to exercising, I would not recommend you jump into Tabata or HIIT intervals. You will see enough of an improvement by simply building up your health base-- i.e. just getting some regular exercise. If you started off walking for 15 mins, try building up to walking for half hour. If you can walk for half hour, try doing running/walking intervals for 20 minutes. Work up to running for half hour. And so on (you get the idea). There's no need to jump into intense workouts when you're not relatively fit.
  • RuthieCass
    RuthieCass Posts: 247 Member
    I have the same thing happen, rowdy. And yes, walking more than usual can even cause it sometimes. Going from sedentary to taking walks DOES work your walking muscles and make them stronger so something is going on. Are we ADDING muscle tissue? Probably not, or at least not much, but something's happening. Water, I guess. But I think what's happening is a good thing and a precursor to positive changes, in my experience.

    You're obviously NOT overeating, so ignore that. Your Fitbit is probably a good gauge, so also ignore the 'overestimating exercise' comment.

    How long has it been that the scale's been stuck? For me, it can take a while. No change for 3 weeks or more then WOOSH 2-4 lbs. drops overnight. Hang in there!

    This is a good point. Most people see more sudden drops of weight instead of linear weight loss. I went for 3 weeks without losing then lost two pounds suddenly. Tracking your measurements (e.g. hip & waist) can you give you another way to look at your fat loss rate.
  • rowdylibrarian
    rowdylibrarian Posts: 251 Member
    Thank you all very much! I really appreciate your input!
  • rowdylibrarian
    rowdylibrarian Posts: 251 Member
    If you don't mind my asking another follow up question, I know that people say that strength training is almost or just as important as cardio. Are there any good sources that you would recommend for a beginner to get started? I have two 5 pound hand-held dumbbells, and a good attitude! :)
  • robhigareda
    robhigareda Posts: 47 Member
    Go on youtube. They have some great workouts that you can use there. 5lbs weights are a great place to start! You can do a number of things with dumbbells like that. You can do squats, biceps, triceps, chest, you name it.
  • wellbert
    wellbert Posts: 3,924 Member
    Yes, it is doing something to your muscle.s
    Filling them with water.
  • StefPayne
    StefPayne Posts: 126 Member
    Are you drinking at least 6 to 8 glasses of water a day? you will retain water when you first start exercising and as crazy as this sounds you need to drink more water to keep from retaining water. It is normal to retain some water after the first few days or couple of works of exercising so just hang in there and don't give up!!
  • jppd47
    jppd47 Posts: 737 Member
    check out the book New rules of lifting for women.