Sorrry .. its me again, but i recently read ....
littlelol
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that if your petite ie under 5ft 4 you shouldnt eat more than 1600 calories daily.
IM 4ft 11, so after looking numerous times on my tdee and bmr ive decided to have 1600 calories a day.
What im confused about is, can I still eat my exercise calories back?
Sorry, i know it must seem in repeating myself, and yes i prabably am, but im soooo nervous!
IM 4ft 11, so after looking numerous times on my tdee and bmr ive decided to have 1600 calories a day.
What im confused about is, can I still eat my exercise calories back?
Sorry, i know it must seem in repeating myself, and yes i prabably am, but im soooo nervous!
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TDEE is TDEE, regardless of height.
Eat your TDEE and don't eat back yoru cals OR eat below your TDEE (20% below is a good starting point) and eat back your cals.0 -
If you actually care to understand they whys behind all this (as opposed to just being told how much to eat and when), then read this:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/383956-exercise-calories-explained0 -
The only stupid/silly question is the one you don't ask - a wise man once told me.0
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I aim for 1,200 a day..that's what MFP told me to do based on my weight loss goals...do you do a lot of lifting/strength training/cardio? if so 1,500 would be good for you, i think 1,600 is a lil high0
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5'1 and eat at least 1770, crank the intense cardio and strength training on and off. Think you can be short and eat more if you do more so you should still eat back exercise cals.0
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If you actually care to understand they whys behind all this (as opposed to just being told how much to eat and when), then read this:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/383956-exercise-calories-explained
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What are your fitness goals? Are you trying to lose weight? If so I think 1600 is a little high too. I'm 5'8 and eat at my bmr of 1500 and eat most of my exercise calories back.0
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I'm 5'2 and I'm set for 1400 calories a day, and rarely eat back exercise calories. Sometimes I do though. I haven't truly weighed myself in over a week. I did, but my good old friend Aunt Flo came the next day, and I always gain weight right before, so I'm not counting that. I think anything less than 1500 is kind of low for myself, but I'm not really hungry since eating better and more often, and I'm not going to eat just for the sake of eating something. Do what feels right for you, and what works for you.0
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I see there is a divide if you should eat back calories or not. Remember everyone's body is different. You need to try one way for yourself and if it is not working then try the other way. There is no exact science.0
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Never want to eat below your BMR or your body will go into starvation mode. You're on the right track calculating your TDEE and cutting 15 or 20% from that. There's a TON of information on this out there, just have to do a little research.0
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TDEE is TDEE, regardless of height.
Eat your TDEE and don't eat back yoru cals OR eat below your TDEE (20% below is a good starting point) and eat back your cals.
This said I have a question about myself
My BMR is 1995
My TDEE is 2430
20% = 486
2430 - 486 = Below my BMR which everything I read says I shouldn't do.
So MFP says - 435 which equals .9 pounds per week.
This is with a modified weight goal of 225 since if I put in 150 it sets my TDEE below my BMR. I have been so confused the last couple of weeks.0 -
TDEE is TDEE, regardless of height.
Eat your TDEE and don't eat back yoru cals OR eat below your TDEE (20% below is a good starting point) and eat back your cals.
This said I have a question about myself
My BMR is 1995
My TDEE is 2430
20% = 486
2430 - 486 = Below my BMR which everything I read says I shouldn't do.
So MFP says - 435 which equals .9 pounds per week.
This is with a modified weight goal of 225 since if I put in 150 it sets my TDEE below my BMR. I have been so confused the last couple of weeks.
My first question is how did you figure out your BMR and your TDEE? I'd be shocked if they were really that close.
Second, what is a modified weight goal?0 -
make it easy on yourself, try to net just over your bmr everyday, you will lose but also be healthy!! thats what i do!! its much easier to keep track. bmr 1400....burn 200 eat 1600 burn 600 eat 2000...
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TDEE is TDEE, regardless of height.
Eat your TDEE and don't eat back yoru cals OR eat below your TDEE (20% below is a good starting point) and eat back your cals.
What?
You don't eat your exercise cals back when using the TDEE method. Ever.
It's already factored in.
And based on this op, I would not take anything you read in "The Petite Advantage Diet" very seriously.0 -
TDEE is TDEE, regardless of height.
Eat your TDEE and don't eat back yoru cals OR eat below your TDEE (20% below is a good starting point) and eat back your cals.
What?
You don't eat your exercise cals back when using the TDEE method. Ever.
It's already factored in.
LOL you beat me to it!
To lose weight it's TDEE less approx 20% depending on your desired rate of weight loss. Depending on how much weight you have to lose you can safely eat below your BMR.0 -
No wonder people on this site are confused!
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I'm 5'0" and eat roughly 2000 cals a day.
This is what works for "my" body.
Everyone is built differently, so do what works for you.
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when i read posts like this it akes me sad - so many people offering so much differant advice - it must be a nightmare for you.
Look at who is offering advice and how much weight they have lost - if someone tells you this 'absolutly works' and they have lost 1lb then take the advice with a pinch of salt.
The people who have lost loads of weight offer the best advice - there is no majic formula/exercise/food etc
Pick a level of calories that you can live with - give it a good go (maybe upto a month) decide if it works for you - tweek if necessary
MFP gives you a good starting point with what your calories should be - put your info in - set it to how much you want to lose (dont make it too hard 0.5lb or 1lb a week is fine)
Eat your exercise calories
Reassess in a month
Have fun
Add me as a friend if you want :flowerforyou:0 -
No wonder people on this site are confused!
You're confusing me. Were you disagreeing with what I said?
I never suggested they should eat at TDEE and eat back cals.0 -
TDEE is TDEE, regardless of height.
Eat your TDEE and don't eat back yoru cals OR eat below your TDEE (20% below is a good starting point) and eat back your cals.
What?
You don't eat your exercise cals back when using the TDEE method. Ever.
It's already factored in.
LOL you beat me to it!
To lose weight it's TDEE less approx 20% depending on your desired rate of weight loss. Depending on how much weight you have to lose you can safely eat below your BMR.
I didn't say to eat them back with TDEE.
Maybe my post wasn't clear?
2 options:
1) eat at TDEE and DON'T eat back your exercise cals.
2) eat below TDEE and DO eat them back0 -
1) eat at TDEE and DON'T eat back your exercise cals.
2) eat below TDEE and DO eat them back
mate, if you are eating below TDEE (which already accounts for your exercise levels) and then on top of that eating back your exercise cals you are eating them twice.
Based on your theory someone could eat below TDEE, eat their exercise cals back and then end up in a calorie excess!!
Eating back calories has nothing to do with the TDEE method, they are totally separate.0 -
1) eat at TDEE and DON'T eat back your exercise cals.
2) eat below TDEE and DO eat them back
mate, if you are eating below TDEE (which already accounts for your exercise levels) and then on top of that eating back your exercise cals you are eating them twice.
Based on your theory someone could eat below TDEE, eat their exercise cals back and then end up in a calorie excess!!
Eating back calories has nothing to do with the TDEE method, they are totally separate.
Gotcha, ok... My assumption was that if they are eating back their exercise cals, then they are logging the cals too, effectively accounting for exercise cals twice.0 -
I'm 4'11" and my sedentary TDEE (that is, calculated for 0 exercise) is 1600. So, if I ate 1600 and then also ate back exercise calories, I should in theory maintain my weight.
Hope that helps.
Check out http://www.fitnessfrog.com/calculators/tdee-calculator.html for more info on TDEE and to calculate yours.0 -
TDEE is TDEE, regardless of height.
Eat your TDEE and don't eat back yoru cals OR eat below your TDEE (20% below is a good starting point) and eat back your cals.
This said I have a question about myself
My BMR is 1995
My TDEE is 2430
20% = 486
2430 - 486 = Below my BMR which everything I read says I shouldn't do.
So MFP says - 435 which equals .9 pounds per week.
This is with a modified weight goal of 225 since if I put in 150 it sets my TDEE below my BMR. I have been so confused the last couple of weeks.
My first question is how did you figure out your BMR and your TDEE? I'd be shocked if they were really that close.
Second, what is a modified weight goal?
I weight 293 currently
I am 65 inches
51 years
I put them in here at MFP and I also put them in at fat2fit http://www.fat2fitradio.com/tools/bmr/
It then ask what my goal is when I put in 149 I get this message
From the information that you entered, you'd like to weigh 149 lbs. (SEE WARNING BELOW)
There are a few different methods to calculating yourbasal metabolic rate (BMR). One of the most popular, developed in the early 1900's is called the Harris-Benedict formula. Based on this formula, your current BMR is 1995 calories.
How Many Calories Should I Eat?
Based on your goal weight, the following chart was generated. The chart shows the number of calories that you should eat on a daily basis to reach your goal weight. At Fat 2 Fit Radio we advocate eating like the thin, healthy person that you want to become. The calorie levels you see in the chart are not extreme, but they do create that all important caloric deficit that is required to get you to your goal weight in a safe manner. Once you reach your goal weight, you will continue eating the same number of calories for the rest of your life to maintain that weight. You'll never be on a diet again.
Based on how much activity you do on an average day, the calories in the right column will be the number of calories that you will be able to eat at your goal weight. If you start eating those calories right now (eating like the thinner you), you will eventually become that thinner person. As you get closer to your goal weight, your weight loss will start to slow down. It is OK to eat a few hundred calories less per day (200-300) to speed up your weight loss at this point.
Activity Level Daily Calories
Sedentary (little or no exercise, desk job) 1643 (this is me as most of the year I teach and do little exercise)
WARNING: Your goal calorie level is below your current BMR. Consider revising your goal weight to an intermediate weight. That way you are never eating below your BMR. When you reach that intermediate goal weight, readjust your calories and head for your ultimate goal.
So I changed my weight goal to 225 and it give me this
Activity Level Daily Calories
Sedentary (little or no exercise, desk job) 20400 -
TDEE is TDEE, regardless of height.
Eat your TDEE and don't eat back yoru cals OR eat below your TDEE (20% below is a good starting point) and eat back your cals.
This said I have a question about myself
My BMR is 1995
My TDEE is 2430
20% = 486
2430 - 486 = Below my BMR which everything I read says I shouldn't do.
So MFP says - 435 which equals .9 pounds per week.
This is with a modified weight goal of 225 since if I put in 150 it sets my TDEE below my BMR. I have been so confused the last couple of weeks.
My first question is how did you figure out your BMR and your TDEE? I'd be shocked if they were really that close.
Second, what is a modified weight goal?
I weight 293 currently
I am 65 inches
51 years
I put them in here at MFP and I also put them in at fat2fit http://www.fat2fitradio.com/tools/bmr/
It then ask what my goal is when I put in 149 I get this message
From the information that you entered, you'd like to weigh 149 lbs. (SEE WARNING BELOW)
There are a few different methods to calculating yourbasal metabolic rate (BMR). One of the most popular, developed in the early 1900's is called the Harris-Benedict formula. Based on this formula, your current BMR is 1995 calories.
How Many Calories Should I Eat?
Based on your goal weight, the following chart was generated. The chart shows the number of calories that you should eat on a daily basis to reach your goal weight. At Fat 2 Fit Radio we advocate eating like the thin, healthy person that you want to become. The calorie levels you see in the chart are not extreme, but they do create that all important caloric deficit that is required to get you to your goal weight in a safe manner. Once you reach your goal weight, you will continue eating the same number of calories for the rest of your life to maintain that weight. You'll never be on a diet again.
Based on how much activity you do on an average day, the calories in the right column will be the number of calories that you will be able to eat at your goal weight. If you start eating those calories right now (eating like the thinner you), you will eventually become that thinner person. As you get closer to your goal weight, your weight loss will start to slow down. It is OK to eat a few hundred calories less per day (200-300) to speed up your weight loss at this point.
Activity Level Daily Calories
Sedentary (little or no exercise, desk job) 1643 (this is me as most of the year I teach and do little exercise)
WARNING: Your goal calorie level is below your current BMR. Consider revising your goal weight to an intermediate weight. That way you are never eating below your BMR. When you reach that intermediate goal weight, readjust your calories and head for your ultimate goal.
So I changed my weight goal to 225 and it give me this
Activity Level Daily Calories
Sedentary (little or no exercise, desk job) 2040
First suggestion: pick a method. Do fat to fit OR do MFP... but don't try to blend them.
Next: I don't understand the point of "eating like the thin healthy person you want to be". Don't eat like the person you want to be, eat like the person you are. It's hard enough to do this as it is, but to make more assumptions based on where we ultimately want to be just seems to make it more difficult. But truth be told, I've never tried it so I'm only speaking hypothetically.
If you want to use fat to fit, then honestly, I'm probably not the best source of advice. I'm not familiar with their strategies and thus can't really offer any meaningful advice.
I do know that MFP, when used correctly (i.e. not mixed with other methods or tweaked because people think they are smarter than it or not over thought) generally provides a great starting point.0 -
The amount you 'should' eat is not only determined by your height, it's also determined by your age, gender, weight, how active you are, and your goals. It's not as simple as 'if you're under 5'4" don't eat more than xyz calories', there are millions of people that are the same height but have different age/gender/weight/body composition and goals - they don't all eat exactly the same just b/c they are the same height. There are those other factors to consider as well. :-)
I'm 5'4" 121 lbs and wear a BodyMedia Fit armband. Back before I got it I was sticking with MFP's 'sedentary maintenance' calorie suggestion of 1580 calories per day. But now that I have my armband it shows me burning anywhere from 2200-2600 per day (depending on how active I am throughout the day and whether I exercise) and I've been eating over 2000 per day and maintaining. I *thought* I was going to have to eat less than that to maintain b/c of MFP, turns out I had my activity level all wrong so I get to eat more. :-)0 -
TDEE is TDEE, regardless of height.
Eat your TDEE and don't eat back yoru cals OR eat below your TDEE (20% below is a good starting point) and eat back your cals.
This said I have a question about myself
My BMR is 1995
My TDEE is 2430
20% = 486
2430 - 486 = Below my BMR which everything I read says I shouldn't do.
So MFP says - 435 which equals .9 pounds per week.
This is with a modified weight goal of 225 since if I put in 150 it sets my TDEE below my BMR. I have been so confused the last couple of weeks.
My first question is how did you figure out your BMR and your TDEE? I'd be shocked if they were really that close.
Second, what is a modified weight goal?
I weight 293 currently
I am 65 inches
51 years
I put them in here at MFP and I also put them in at fat2fit http://www.fat2fitradio.com/tools/bmr/
It then ask what my goal is when I put in 149 I get this message
From the information that you entered, you'd like to weigh 149 lbs. (SEE WARNING BELOW)
There are a few different methods to calculating yourbasal metabolic rate (BMR). One of the most popular, developed in the early 1900's is called the Harris-Benedict formula. Based on this formula, your current BMR is 1995 calories.
How Many Calories Should I Eat?
Based on your goal weight, the following chart was generated. The chart shows the number of calories that you should eat on a daily basis to reach your goal weight. At Fat 2 Fit Radio we advocate eating like the thin, healthy person that you want to become. The calorie levels you see in the chart are not extreme, but they do create that all important caloric deficit that is required to get you to your goal weight in a safe manner. Once you reach your goal weight, you will continue eating the same number of calories for the rest of your life to maintain that weight. You'll never be on a diet again.
Based on how much activity you do on an average day, the calories in the right column will be the number of calories that you will be able to eat at your goal weight. If you start eating those calories right now (eating like the thinner you), you will eventually become that thinner person. As you get closer to your goal weight, your weight loss will start to slow down. It is OK to eat a few hundred calories less per day (200-300) to speed up your weight loss at this point.
Activity Level Daily Calories
Sedentary (little or no exercise, desk job) 1643 (this is me as most of the year I teach and do little exercise)
WARNING: Your goal calorie level is below your current BMR. Consider revising your goal weight to an intermediate weight. That way you are never eating below your BMR. When you reach that intermediate goal weight, readjust your calories and head for your ultimate goal.
So I changed my weight goal to 225 and it give me this
Activity Level Daily Calories
Sedentary (little or no exercise, desk job) 2040
First suggestion: pick a method. Do fat to fit OR do MFP... but don't try to blend them.
Next: I don't understand the point of "eating like the thin healthy person you want to be". Don't eat like the person you want to be, eat like the person you are. It's hard enough to do this as it is, but to make more assumptions based on where we ultimately want to be just seems to make it more difficult. But truth be told, I've never tried it so I'm only speaking hypothetically.
If you want to use fat to fit, then honestly, I'm probably not the best source of advice. I'm not familiar with their strategies and thus can't really offer any meaningful advice.
I do know that MFP, when used correctly (i.e. not mixed with other methods or tweaked because people think they are smarter than it or not over thought) generally provides a great starting point.
Point taken and thank you !!!
So now from MFP under tools
BMR = 1945
Calories Burned
From Normal Daily Activity 2,430 calories/day
Net Calories Consumed*
Your Daily Goal 1,995 calories/ day
Daily Calorie Deficit 435 calories
Projected Weight Loss 0.9 lbs/ week
Now my question is do I stay at 1945 or cut my calories to bump up to 2 lbs per week but would require eating less than my BMR?0
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