tips to get that job

foxyforce
foxyforce Posts: 3,078 Member
what are some of the things that you always do that make you an outstanding candidate. i would love to gather tips and i am sure others would love to hear as well.

i..... always find out exactly how many people are hiring, their names, and provide them each with a package of my resume and reference letters
....always send a thank you letter (which is a lost art i noticed when i was hiring)
....bring my portfolio to the interview


your turn!

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  • Wolfena
    Wolfena Posts: 1,570 Member
    I haven't gone on any job interviews lately... but I hire people.

    Maybe I'm weird - I don't mind a follow up phone call, but the thank you letters I get actually creep me out and move those people down on my list of "want to hire"
  • foxyforce
    foxyforce Posts: 3,078 Member
    I haven't gone on any job interviews lately... but I hire people.

    Maybe I'm weird - I don't mind a follow up phone call, but the thank you letters I get actually creep me out and move those people down on my list of "want to hire"

    what creeps you out about them??
  • Wolfena
    Wolfena Posts: 1,570 Member
    I haven't gone on any job interviews lately... but I hire people.

    Maybe I'm weird - I don't mind a follow up phone call, but the thank you letters I get actually creep me out and move those people down on my list of "want to hire"

    what creeps you out about them??

    A letter that comes addressed directly to me from someone I don't really know makes me feel like they think they are special and that I should remember them more than any other candidate.... which, I suppose it what they want - but it makes me feel like they'd be super needy if I hired them and expect and require special attention.
  • foxyforce
    foxyforce Posts: 3,078 Member
    I haven't gone on any job interviews lately... but I hire people.

    Maybe I'm weird - I don't mind a follow up phone call, but the thank you letters I get actually creep me out and move those people down on my list of "want to hire"

    what creeps you out about them??

    A letter that comes addressed directly to me from someone I don't really know makes me feel like they think they are special and that I should remember them more than any other candidate.... which, I suppose it what they want - but it makes me feel like they'd be super needy if I hired them and expect and require special attention.

    i have no idea how you got your job!!! it shows a candidate does their research (they may have applied to so many jobs they don't even know your email address anymore, but took the time to look it up...and/or your name if it was a panel!) not to mention, they do think they are special because they are probably the better suited candidate. i see idiots being hired all the time, now i get to hear from a recruiting rep that does this.

    sorry if i sound off base, but i am a diligent job seeker. and i ALWAYS send a thank you letter. but to be frank, if this is what hasn't gotten me jobs, i don't want to work with teams that are that messed up. however, i work in an industry where networking and partnership development is pertinent....i'm in shock!
  • Easywider
    Easywider Posts: 434 Member
    Confidence and demonstrating how your skill-sets and experience apply to the position you're going for. Factual, succinct, and ambitious without being arrogant. A synergistic optimist who is eager to lead and take responsibility for their actions with bearing and poise.

    All you need.

    Degrees help.

    So does an oz of that OG.
  • jcmartin0313
    jcmartin0313 Posts: 574 Member
    I always wear a short skirt and heels...ooh wait...
  • Wolfena
    Wolfena Posts: 1,570 Member
    Know your industry.... maybe it's different than mine.

    I need people who are going to be self motivated and efficient with minimal training... I will give them all they need to succeed, and will always be there to answer questions or help them out, but they can't be coming to me every single day taking up my time because they are incapable of figuring ANYTHING out on their own, or ALWAYS need validation that they are right. Sure, I expect that from someone who is brand new - but it should wear off quickly.

    I have a team of 9 people who are working for me right now and every single one of them is awesome (and not one of them sent me a thank you letter after our interview) - But then, maybe it's because most of them I hired on the spot because I knew they had what it takes! LOL


    I wish you well in your hunt for employment. I am sure you will find the right place for you :smile:
  • I hope to never work for a person like you ^^^^
  • SocWkrBee
    SocWkrBee Posts: 374
    I always research the agency. I want to know their mission and the people that they service. Doing this helps you when they ask "why do you want to work here".

    I am a social worker. I would look like a twit saying oh my passion is working with children and they only service the adult population ect....

    Oh, and know your stuff. If you are applying for a job that does X. Please now what X is and how to do it. Just my humble opinion.
  • Menene
    Menene Posts: 121 Member
    Research the Company, Know what your the company is about How long it been in business, number of employees, products , business goals etc. Just did a few interviews and what made one person stand out from the other is she researched the company. Taylored her goal to match.
  • foxyforce
    foxyforce Posts: 3,078 Member
    I always research the agency. I want to know their mission and the people that they service. Doing this helps you when they ask "why do you want to work here".

    I am a social worker. I would look like a twit saying oh my passion is working with children and they only service the adult population ect....

    Oh, and know your stuff. If you are applying for a job that does X. Please now what X is and how to do it. Just my humble opinion.

    i'm in the social service field as well!
  • foxyforce
    foxyforce Posts: 3,078 Member
    good job seekers know to research the companies

    what makes you guys OUTSTANDING. i am looking for out of the ordinary tips. but so far, all very good points thank you!
  • ScottyNoHotty
    ScottyNoHotty Posts: 1,957 Member
    Having sex with the HR director always helps.


    BTW, I am the HR guy at my company and we are hiring!!!!
  • Wolfena
    Wolfena Posts: 1,570 Member
    sorry if i sound off base, but i am a diligent job seeker. and i ALWAYS send a thank you letter.

    Perhaps you are a diligent job-seeker instead of being employed yet is because you have your own ideas about what it is you are supposed to be doing or not doing.... and if someone doesn't agree with you, you call them stupid. Attitude is very important on an interview and in life as well - and being able to get along positively with other people off all types, whether you like them or agree with them or not, is an awesome trait to have.
  • foxyforce
    foxyforce Posts: 3,078 Member
    sorry if i sound off base, but i am a diligent job seeker. and i ALWAYS send a thank you letter.

    Perhaps you are a diligent job-seeker instead of being employed yet is because you have your own ideas about what it is you are supposed to be doing or not doing.... and if someone doesn't agree with you, you call them stupid. Attitude is very important on an interview and in life as well - and being able to get along positively with other people off all types, whether you like them or agree with them or not, is an awesome trait to have.

    i am actually underemployed, and a GEM in my field. i have a portfolio full of recommendation letters, one even stating that out of 20 assistants i was 'by far the best of all'.

    sending a thank you letter may not be a must for you but on behalf of every job seeker out there it is completely unskilled for you to move them down the list for taking THEIR time to appreciate yours. you may want to look up tips in hiring, they may benefit you.
  • ethansmug
    ethansmug Posts: 159 Member
    Having sex with the HR director always helps.


    BTW, I am the HR guy at my company and we are hiring!!!!


    Better watch out, I just got a warning email because I dared to use that "S" word in one of my posts LOL
  • foxyforce
    foxyforce Posts: 3,078 Member
    Having sex with the HR director always helps.


    BTW, I am the HR guy at my company and we are hiring!!!!

    speaking of such, i am always trying to be aware of discrimination, and i am recently engaged. i wonder if the ring on my finger plays a part...
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  • cobracars
    cobracars Posts: 949 Member
    At my current job 8 years, before that 13 years. So I'm not much of a 'diligent' job seeker.

    When I hired for my company it was based on skills and experience. Not on whether you were wearing an engagement ring, a wedding ring, a follow-up letter, or reference letters. Certainly not based on what fraternity or sorority your needy *kitten* feels a need to belong to. I needed a good one-on-one interview because anything written can be made up, but talking to someone in person lets you know if they might be a good fit.

    I would look for someone who wasn't just talking only about themselves. I did this, I did that, blah blah blah. What are you going to do for THIS company. Ask questions, then insert yourself into the answer. If your question is 'what type of responsibilities would I have?" and the answer is related to working with a team, make inquiries about the team to show you are interested. How many team members? how long has the team been together? What are the goals and deadlines?
  • nightsrainfall
    nightsrainfall Posts: 244 Member
    Research the company - but not just the company, read that job description and know it. Gear a cover letter to it and to the company culture. Yes, they do A, B, C - but also look into how that company is. Some companies are geared themselves publicly (and internally) as ethical, environmental, safe, etc. Some companies are big into getting something done - workers need to put in the hours, do it off time, etc - other companies are more into work-life balance, keep things cool and even. There's differences in based upon what field the company is in, if it's private, public, government, big, small, and even where the company stems from (how it was built, what type of work it likes to go into, where it is located).

    I always go through interview questions a head of time. I lot of them. I practice different answers, not to script myself but to brain storm. What was a time when you had a challenging team member?. I don't fluff my answers or use 'text-book' answer. Yes there was a challenging team member, we had difficulty in this, but this is how we worked through it or this is what we did to resolve it. What's your strength? I try not to do cliches but to do something unique to me and then I follow up with a story/example and how I am trying to grow more, change, or continue. I re-review articles from different types of managers, interviewers, or professional job placement people to see all the different styles. I've had some really odd ball interview questions "How would you give us the count the number of windows in a city by the end of today?" or "Who is your favorite superhero and why?" or "When was there a time when you failed?" . I talk about myself in both past tense (stories, things I have accomplished, goals I have met or even not met, and my record persay) as well as future tense (ie "for example, if working on one of your (blank) projects, I would probably do." or "with this, my ideas would be.") That way not only am I giving who I am, and showing an accurate account and strong dependable background of how I am, I am also showing that I will and am vesting myself in the company. I see myself there. It's not quite what I have done nor what I can do for you - it's more of showing who I am and who I will be in their company.

    I read up on a lot of different ideas too. I know one guy in my current company will take all interviewing people to lunch. These people will receive a second interview based upon how they are at the lunch. He looks at things like how they treat the waiter/waitress. If they salt their food before tasting it (he's never given a person who has done this a second interview because to him they made an assumption without verifying the truth). If they will correct him if he's wrong, etc. It's a very coy play when you hear all the little things he looks for. But mostly he's just looking for how that person is.

    Another thing. I always shake a hand, be professional, and smile. I always ask when I will hear back from them and I will follow up close to that date. Some companies use HR or have an extensive process, there's no point in following back if you are just another person calling because the person you are talking to is not in direct contact with the person who is deciding who the new hire is. I also don't always do thank you notes because again it depends on the company, how the interview was conducted, and position. I got hired for my last job through a very informal causal process that was all email & phone. To do a thank you note to that would have been stalker-ish and strange. The person "interviewing" me did not give me their office address nor business card. The "interview" was actual a time for me to ask questions about their company to learn more about the position, and so there was no justification nor impression that a card would work.

    Most importantly - be yourself and don't lie. You might not get the jobs, but if you do get a job and you weren't yourself or worse you lied. That can cause major future issues. Also know what you want in the job. What are your deal breakers? What are you happy doing? What can you do? And just go for it.
  • nightsrainfall
    nightsrainfall Posts: 244 Member
    I vet my references by asking them "Do you think you can give me a *strong* recommendation?" e.g.: a professor you volunteered with/a boss who knows you really well and not someone who you took a class with and never saw again or a boss in a large company who saw you as one of a 50+ herd. I also give references at least one month's notice, although I have applied for something last minute and relied on a previous reference to quickly rehash a letter for me. References also get written thank you notes along with an update on my outcome. It's gratifying to visit an old professor or boss and recognize my note taped to their office wall.

    I agree. Thank all references for being a reference, even if a company doesn't use them. I personally don't vet references, but I agree it is very important to know who will say what and if it's personalized to you or generic. I make sure I know all my references very well before even asking them to be a reference so I know which ones will say what - just because I know their style. Since usually companies only ask for 3 references (most I've ever seen was 5), I specifically pick jobs, activities, or past references based upon that company and job. If the reference from organizing volunteering at an animal shelter (people based job, odd-ball hours, working outside of 'work', being flexible and dependable without actual pay/incentive) and I'm applying for a lab job where I'll work by myself - I won't use it. There might be a slight mention of that work on my resume at the bottom where the interviewer can ask me about if they are curious, but it's not quite 'applicable'.

    If I get a job and that person was a reference. I also follow up with them informing them I got the job and thanking them again.