how outrageous is this!

haylz247
haylz247 Posts: 435
edited December 2024 in Food and Nutrition
There's this brand called Kershaws, and they sell an all day big breakfast (for £1.49...which must be gross for that price! All the yucky meat and whatnot)

It's classed as counting towards your five a day. That;s just crazy! Apparently, as long as a meal or food item has 80g of fruit/veg, it counts! Even though it's high in fat. Just doesn;t make sense!

Here is the article. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2174062/Five-day-hijacked-food-industry.html

Another thing that maddens me, is the Fruitizz drink. 49 grams of SUGAR!!! How on earth is that good for you, let alone kids!!

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  • TheVimFuego
    TheVimFuego Posts: 2,412 Member
    There's this brand called Kershaws, and they sell an all day big breakfast (for £1.49...which must be gross for that price! All the yucky meat and whatnot)

    It's classed as counting towards your five a day. That;s just crazy! Apparently, as long as a meal or food item has 80g of fruit/veg, it counts! Even though it's high in fat. Just doesn;t make sense!

    Here is the article. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2174062/Five-day-hijacked-food-industry.html

    Another thing that maddens me, is the Fruitizz drink. 49 grams of SUGAR!!! How on earth is that good for you, let alone kids!!

    Do you remember Sunny Delight? (apologies if it's way before your time ;))

    If you really want to be outraged check out some of the infant formulas ...
  • charitas32
    charitas32 Posts: 58
    Kershaws is really minging. I used to work in home care and some of our clients would get their meals ,because they were cheap and microwaveable, they always looked awful and besides if we were coming in to make their meals we had enough time to make a grilled version.
  • tundeke
    tundeke Posts: 80
    I think i saw the advert in the telly the other day; there is a program coming up. It is just false advertising so they can sell their products but all they care about is money not actually the peoples well -being. :brokenheart:
  • charitas32
    charitas32 Posts: 58
    Am old enough to remember Sunny D and how they paid supermarkets to put it in the fridge section, right next to the fresh juice, it probably had a shelf life of several years.

    My oldest asked why didn't we buy the toddler milk advertised before Peppa Pig, he may have received a rant about how they only make follow on milk to get round advertising restrictions and the bioavailability of iron in breastmilk versus formula, Four is probably too young for this but I was mad at the advertising industry to quote Bill Hicks " work in advertising just kill yourself and do the world a favour"
  • laus_8882
    laus_8882 Posts: 217 Member
    Sounds reasonable to me. Baked beans aren't just sugary morsels of deliciousness, they're also legumes, which I believe count toward your five a day (at least here they do, but you can only count one portion, so no filling up on tins of beans and abusing the ozone layer for good health) and the breakfast includes a small portion of tomatoes.

    It's not appetising, not by any stretch, but I don't see why it isn't a legitimate claim by the company. Tbh, I don't see how anyone can look at overly processed food laden with salt, sugar and fat and think to themselves that eating sufficient quantities of the shrink wrapped, heat treated food group is a good way to get their five a day. If that's happening they've more problems than banning dodgy advertising claims will solve.
  • chrishgt4
    chrishgt4 Posts: 1,222 Member
    The problem isn't the company as such. They aren't lying. They fulfil the appropriate criteria.

    The problem is that people don't have nutritional education to understand what is good and what is bad. This means that the government has to overly-simplify things, hence the 5-a-day thing.

    The idea behind 5-a-day is to help those who really don't know to have some sort of rough aiming point at getting some decent nutrition. Unfortunately, this allows companies such as the above to brand their food with the 5-a-day logo. Whilst they aren't lying, to the average misinformed customer, the 5-a-day logo means that food is good for you.

    People should have more common sense when buying an all day breakfast, but the shocker for me is that McDonalds can put it on their Fruitizz drink. That, to me, is a lot less obviously bad for you. To me, McDonalds shouldn't be allowed to use and sort of healthy logo on any of their food. Even their salad bags.
  • haylz247
    haylz247 Posts: 435
    i do remember sunny d! I used to have it as a treat but never had it a lot. Couldn't drink it now as it's way too sweet!

    I do agree with some points. I also think kids should be educated better in school then there wouldn't be these problems later in life. Parents need educating too!
    When i was in school, we were always baking cakes and meals with a load of fat in. I don't know what schools are like now though?
  • susannamarie
    susannamarie Posts: 2,148 Member
    If it contains fruit/veg, I don't see why it wouldn't count towards five-a-day just because it's fatty.
  • chrishgt4
    chrishgt4 Posts: 1,222 Member
    If it contains fruit/veg, I don't see why it wouldn't count towards five-a-day just because it's fatty.

    I think it's more the point that the 5-a-day logo is generally understood as "This is a healthy food".

    It's like - it's not technically lying, but it's using a small bit of truth to hide a whole load of BS.
  • Zichu
    Zichu Posts: 542 Member
    I can understand both sides of the argument. The beans and the tomatoes would be consider two of your five a day, regardless of how much sugar, salt and fat that is in the product. It still contains two portions of fruit or veg. If you were to buy this product, but only ate the beans and tomatoes, would you still not count it towards your five a day?


    I just want to know how they got a meal like this to be only 396 calories lol. They must of used like one egg, used a ton of water, made the sausage's miniature and the ham/bacon looks pathetic.

    I enjoy a big breakfast, a meaty breakfast with plenty of protein. I had Turkey Sausage, Scrambled Eggs, Baked Beans (Sugar and Salt Reduced) with Bacon that I trimmed. It had 36g of fat, 63g of protein and 28g of carbs. 8g of that fat was saturated which mainly came from the eggs. The carbs came from the sausage due to the casing and also from the beans. Just because it isn't green and packed with carbs, it was enjoyable and it was all grilled and trimmed to lower the amount of saturated fat that was in it.

    Now that breakfast on there must contain mostly saturated fat because there is no way they would use turkey in the sausages, it would most likely be pork and not lean at all. The potatoes were most likely sauteed in sunflower oil.


    It's not right what they are doing because it tricks people into thinking it's a healthy meal and you should have these 3 times a day to get your 5 a day. It's just lazy because you can make any of these meals yourself and turn them into healthy meals, even if they contain more calories, it would still turn out healthier.


    Also, I went on the Kershaw's website and couldn't find any nutritional information on there. They show the products and the front of the packaging where it shows the X/5 a day, calories and fat, but that's it. They even have a section that tells you were to buy them with a link to the searched brand on each store. I went on each one to find none of there products. I even manually searched there product on these stores and still nothing. If they were really healthy foods they would give you the nutritional information to prove that it's really healthy, otherwise it's a load of bull.
  • Aperture_Science
    Aperture_Science Posts: 840 Member
    The problem with the 5-a-day and other food labeling systems (like the traffic light system) is that they simplify the message to the point of being useless.

    This is why the proposed fat taxes or junk food taxes are doomed to be either; implemented then abused, implemented and of no real benefit, or never implemented at all.

    The general population want simple clear messages about what is "good" to eat and what is "bad" to eat but it is not possible to give that simple message that covers all options.

    Most would agree that broccoli is "good for you" but that doesn't mean that if you only ate broccoli you would be healthy. Many people feel that fat is bad for you but long term too little is also bad for you.

    Generally the more you simplify the message, the more caveats and clauses you need.
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