"all food is cancer causing!"

I agree. If I gave up everything that "might" cause cancer life would suck and wouldn't be worth living.

I don't smoke, drink or do drugs. I am married and don't have unsafe sex. I don't do dangerous sports or anything.

So I am going to drink diet soda and eat chocolate and drink coffee DAMMIT! Lol

So true!!

I think the point is that everything we tend to do to our bodies is unnatural and therefore, we get an unnatural reaction. If you were to live clean and eat clean, then you probably wouldn't have to worry about 99% of the diseases out there that cause premature death.

I am not being on a soap box. I certainly don't eat clean 100% of the time. Today is a prime example of that. Disgustingly prime, in fact.

But that's reality. And I think it's really sad to hear that some people think life would suck if they were to live it clean and free of processed foods, drinks and other bad for you products. 100 years ago those people didn't think life sucked and they lived pretty healthy lives for the most part.

I'm actually looking forward to a day when I don't have a dependency on so many processed products. They make my auto-immune disease worse. Seriously. I feel MUCH better when I eat NO processed foods and when I used all natural beauty products or no beauty products. And when I only use sustainable cleansing products. It's a real trip but it makes me passionate about getting to that point.

We depend on processed junk for our convenience. But that convenience has a price. Cost thy name is Cancer. Are you willing to pay it?

There is no stark line that divides carcinogens from non-carcinogens. Essentially, anything that interacts with your body has a small chance of causing a mutation, and that mutation has a small chance of causing cancer. So, your title is in fact literally true. Of course there is a spectrum, and it is prudent to avoid things that are known to cause a lot of cancers, but common foods do not generally fall under that description.

I think the point is that everything we tend to do to our bodies is unnatural and therefore, we get an unnatural reaction. If you were to live clean and eat clean, then you probably wouldn't have to worry about 99% of the diseases out there that cause premature death.

I am not being on a soap box. I certainly don't eat clean 100% of the time. Today is a prime example of that. Disgustingly prime, in fact.

But that's reality. And I think it's really sad to hear that some people think life would suck if they were to live it clean and free of processed foods, drinks and other bad for you products. 100 years ago those people didn't think life sucked and they lived pretty healthy lives for the most part.

I'm actually looking forward to a day when I don't have a dependency on so many processed products. They make my auto-immune disease worse. Seriously. I feel MUCH better when I eat NO processed foods and when I used all natural beauty products or no beauty products. And when I only use sustainable cleansing products. It's a real trip but it makes me passionate about getting to that point.

We depend on processed junk for our convenience. But that convenience has a price. Cost thy name is Cancer. Are you willing to pay it?

Computers have been said to cause cancer, cell phones, car exhaust etc.

You going to give up all those too?

You just made MY point for me without realizing it.

Computers, cell phones, cars, etc. have been SAID to cause cancer. It's NOT PROVEN.

Healthy eating and appropriate exercise are the only ways to help stem the effects of chronic disease and fatal illness. There is no guarantee that you won't still get cancer. Many cancers and other chronic illnesses are hereditary and if you're going to get it, you're going to get it and there's nothing you can do about it at this point in time and technology.

Eating and living clean means not putting things into your body that don't belong. Like processed foods, large amounts of dairy products, cigarettes, chew, alcohol. It means exercising and limiting your exposure to other bad things.

BTW...I use a computer approximately 5 hours a week. And I never sit directly next to the computer. I keep a wireless keyboard and sit as far away as I can to avoid direct exposure to full electronics. I also limit the amount of full sun exposure I have each day, limit my time in cars (I ride my bike almost everywhere, even in the winter) and limit my time on my cell phone. In fact, I only use my cell phone approximately 30 minutes to an hour a week depending on my work situation. Otherwise, I only use a landline. I also don't take prescription medications, despite the fact that I have SLE. I also don't own a television. I will also be moving to Micronesia in about 5 years (takes a lot of prep) where I won't have daily access to any forms of technology and will not have access to any vehicles other than a bicycle, and no processed foods. It is, in fact, possible to live without those things. And millions of people do it every day.

So seriously...you're kind of sitting there attacking me for my life choices but I live far healthier than most people. And it is very possible to live without technology and processed foods. You must have been born American and raised American because America is the only place I've ever seen an incapability to deal with a clean life. It's also the only place where I am attacked or people get defensive when I talk about clean living. I personally prefer to have less technology and processed foods in my life. So really, yes...I am working on "giving up" all of those things. They're really unnecessary.

Try it sometime. Go for two whole weeks with less than 5 hours a week of technology and processed foods in your life. Travel only by feet or by bicycle, don't eat anything that isn't organic and natural, drink only water, read books and don't watch television. And limit your computer use and telephone use as much as you possibly can. That means using a written food diary instead of MFP and only using your computer at work if your work requires it. You may find that you actually enjoy being unplugged and eating natural foods.

I don't expect anyone to adhere to the lifestyle that I do. But I would genuinely appreciate not being attacked for wanting to be healthy and live the best way that I can. I have a chronic disease that leads to death and by living the way I do I have made my life better. Technology and drugs didn't help me. Homeopathics did. Eating healthy did. Limiting my sun and technology exposure did. That's got to count for something. And it does to me. And my family.

So just remember, all I do is tell you the truth and tell you how it has worked for me. Attacks and defensiveness don't do anything but make you all seem like jerks. Try a little respect.

Computers have been said to cause cancer, cell phones, car exhaust etc.

You going to give up all those too?

Reminds me of a cartoon strip I saw many years ago:

"We've just discovered that life is carcinogenic."



And did I miss the recipe?

Many years ago, there was a show that satirized various current events in our country. One of the most memorable was the "Leisure Suits Cause Cancer" segment where a lab rat was shown dressed up in a tiny leisure suit. I still laugh when I think about it. Lesson? Live your life, take care but don't obsess over any report that says something MIGHT cause cancer.

Wrong bacon doesn't cause cancer...

Where did I attack you?

I asked a question.

No, no, you were the one being defensive! In your five-mile-long super defensive response, obviously. lololol

Life is like a box of chocolate... eventually everything leads to cancer

I totally agree with the OP, it annoys me how everyone gets so paranoid about EVERYTHING!

Just an observation, but cooking food is unnatural. All other species eat their food as is, either fresh from the kill or a few days old. We're the only ones who cook ours. Or refrigerate it, for that matter. So, starting with that, you're doing something "unnatural" to your food. So go ahead and eat processed food if you feel like it.

You've got one shot at enjoying life before you end up worm food (or unnaturally embalmed and encased in concrete), so if you want a snacky cake or cheezy poof and it fits into your day, have at it. Because you could stroke out tomorrow from a blood clot in your leg, die from a bullet fired into the air from a mile away (true story, actually happened to an Amish girl in Ohio), or walk dazedly into traffic due to lack of processed food in your system before cancer, which is 80% genetic predisposition anyway, gets you. :drinker: I'm never giving up my convenience foods!

food turned me into a newt!!!



I got better.
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