Don't let the "Biggest Loser" article be an excuse
ninerbuff
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It's been circulating in the media and on the boards here, but realize something. CICO works and what happened to contestants on the BL as far as metabolic rate reduction likely has more to do with how fast they lost weight, regained and hormonal dysfunction.
Like someone who inundates their bodies with PED's, the bodies "normal" functioning hormones may be deterred from functionally correctly due to the extremes they put their bodies through.
The BL contestants were demanded to workout out daily for up to 6 hours a day and eating on a calorie deficit in extremes as well as regular bouts of dehydration and starving techniques to try to beat weigh ins. Not to mention the stress levels they had endured every week from TV exposure and competition on a national level. Discontinuing that program, then expect results to definitely change.
If anyone understands physiology, this isn't NORMAL for the human body and there SHOULD BE a hormonal response in reaction. They didn't mention in the article about test and HGH levels before and after and those 2 alone are a big factor in how metabolic rate runs as well as how fat loss metabolism is affected. I'd also like to know how their insulin levels responded to possibly very low carb intakes for long periods of time being an obese person.
Anyway, if your approach is MODERATE (1% loss of your bodyweight a week), there shouldn't be any reason why if you reach goal, that you can't maintain it if your diligent in your calorie intake and still involve a decent physical activity program.
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Like someone who inundates their bodies with PED's, the bodies "normal" functioning hormones may be deterred from functionally correctly due to the extremes they put their bodies through.
The BL contestants were demanded to workout out daily for up to 6 hours a day and eating on a calorie deficit in extremes as well as regular bouts of dehydration and starving techniques to try to beat weigh ins. Not to mention the stress levels they had endured every week from TV exposure and competition on a national level. Discontinuing that program, then expect results to definitely change.
If anyone understands physiology, this isn't NORMAL for the human body and there SHOULD BE a hormonal response in reaction. They didn't mention in the article about test and HGH levels before and after and those 2 alone are a big factor in how metabolic rate runs as well as how fat loss metabolism is affected. I'd also like to know how their insulin levels responded to possibly very low carb intakes for long periods of time being an obese person.
Anyway, if your approach is MODERATE (1% loss of your bodyweight a week), there shouldn't be any reason why if you reach goal, that you can't maintain it if your diligent in your calorie intake and still involve a decent physical activity program.
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Amen.1
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Thank you!!! I don't know the science of it all. I do know, however, that the average person isn't going to the extremes of TBL. It was a study of an extreme and it frustrates me to see that they seemed to apply it to the average joe trying to lose weight when they had no one who fit that description in this study.8
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Here, here! Dropping almost 250lbs in 7 months is not healthy at all. That show needs to be cancelled or something.11
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I am SHOCKED no one has died from being on TBL due to all their unhealthy weight loss methods. I suppose it's only a matter of time.13
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Another counter point to the article, from one of the other threads:
http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2016/04/14/Study-suggests-method-to-maintain-stable-weight-loss/3191460643328/
"This study shows that if an overweight person is able to maintain an initial weight loss -- in this case for a year -- the body will eventually 'accept' this new weight and thus not fight against it, as is otherwise normally the case when you are in a calorie-deficit state," Torekov said.10 -
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I'm already so sick of seeing that article. Because of CICO I lost weight, kept it off, and I was still able to eat pizza and French fries.7
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All this.1
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Asher_Ethan wrote: »I'm already so sick of seeing that article. Because of CICO I lost weight, kept it off, and I was still able to eat pizza and French fries.
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I agree...proof is all around us...I do hope that others take heed tho and understand that even a bit of "extreme" behaviour can and will result in a similar situation.
That's where people become experts at losing weight but never get the hang of maintenance.5 -
Thank you! It seems that a lot of people are freaking out, thinking this will be the case with them, too. I don't know all the science behind it, but I had a feeling it has something to do with the extreme methods and rapid weight loss the contestants go through. I think comparing those contestants to people who lose gradually through REASONABLE diet and exercise is like comparing apples and oranges. The body is going to react very differently to slow, steady weight loss than it will to rapid loss brought about by extreme and likely unhealthy methods.2
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I agree...proof is all around us...I do hope that others take heed tho and understand that even a bit of "extreme" behaviour can and will result in a similar situation.
That's where people become experts at losing weight but never get the hang of maintenance.
It's sad that people don't have common sense. Obviously extremes of any kind are not good but that's something that should make people say "duh, no wonder.."
Instead, a lot of people are thinking that the article means starvation mode is real and blahblah.5 -
Yeah that thing is EVERYWHERE. I even saw it on Twitter and Facebook... Cue overweight people sharing it so they can have an excuse not to even try.
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I know that when I go crazy and lose a ton of weight quickly, one cheeseburger seems to put back on 10lbs. When I lose the weight slowly and in a correct way, even a whole week of terrible eating doesn't derail my weight loss0
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AND body fat percent! Not a single *kitten* word about how the "6 years later" portion of the study shows a DOUBLING of the average BF%, which means you burn fewer calories than your muscle-building same weight counterpart! That really irritates me.6
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The National Weight Control Registry records many people who have successfully kept their weight off. I always go there for inspiration. http://www.nwcr.ws/
I'm a part of the NWCR, my stats are mixed in there somewhere
Mini-hijack, but I just started a thread asking maintainers to chime in, and let those who may be feeling discouraged about the article know that there's quite a few of us who are successfully maintaining. Maintainers are coming out of the woodwork
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10383705/nyt-aint-got-nothing-on-us-maintainers-roll-call#latest8 -
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ReaderGirl3 wrote: »The National Weight Control Registry records many people who have successfully kept their weight off. I always go there for inspiration. http://www.nwcr.ws/
I'm a part of the NWCR, my stats are mixed in there somewhere
Mini-hijack, but I just started a thread asking maintainers to chime in, and let those who may be feeling discouraged about the article know that there's quite a few of us who are successfully maintaining. Maintainers are coming out of the woodwork
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10383705/nyt-aint-got-nothing-on-us-maintainers-roll-call#latest
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kmbrooks15 wrote: »Thank you! It seems that a lot of people are freaking out, thinking this will be the case with them, too. I don't know all the science behind it, but I had a feeling it has something to do with the extreme methods and rapid weight loss the contestants go through. I think comparing those contestants to people who lose gradually through REASONABLE diet and exercise is like comparing apples and oranges. The body is going to react very differently to slow, steady weight loss than it will to rapid loss brought about by extreme and likely unhealthy methods.
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This article upsets me in that it gives the impression that diet and exercise don't work longterm, only bariatric surgery (though not mentioned in the article). Also, just my opinion, the metabolic slowdown the contestants suffered could be from muscle loss due to excessive exercise and an extremely low calorie intake. Just a thought.3
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And to follow up on that thought there are contestants that DO keep the weight off! What is the difference between them?
https://healthyeater.com/biggest-loser-then-now
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It's about time that the excesses in the Biggest Loser were exposed. What irritated me was the apparent lack of support teaching the contestants how to LIVE. No one other than postal service employees and LOOMIS couriers can run six hours a day to maintain their svelte physique.
I hope most people had not bought in to the myth that the extreme efforts highlighted in that show is the only way to lose weight.2 -
Colorscheme wrote: »I am SHOCKED no one has died from being on TBL due to all their unhealthy weight loss methods. I suppose it's only a matter of time.
Unfortunately when someone dies on a reality show, and they will sooner or later, the ratings will probably skyrocket.1 -
I shared the article, as I have friends and family that point out how people in that show loose weight and since it is taking me so long to reach my goal, I am not trying hard enough. I honestly couldn't tell you how much I lost, only a few close friends and doc knows. I would get frustrated if I see weight gain and not loss. But this article helped me prove my point some that fast isn't always good.3
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weight loss shows LOL THERE JUST THAT (SHOWS ) anybody thats really into health and fitness they dont do it the way the shows do it, the shows are all about the money and ratings, and if your on there show you play by there rules, these tv show are sending the wrong message to the people that dont know any better TAKE THESE SHOWS WITH A GRAIN OF SALT0
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Colorscheme wrote: »I am SHOCKED no one has died from being on TBL due to all their unhealthy weight loss methods. I suppose it's only a matter of time.
There have been a number of contestants shuffled off to hospital during filming (at least in Australia). I think some have not been able to come back on at all as a result.
Thank god all my friends and family are smart and realise that weight loss takes longer. I ditched the ones who believe otherwise, inclusive of those who believe everyone should only eat 1200cals a day if they want to lose weight (the Michelle Bridges method I will call that!).2 -
Yeah, I think more than anything, the study done on the Biggest Loser contestants should serve as a warning- Lose slowly in a healthy manner and take care of your body so you don't screw up your metabolism. I've seen so many people on here trying to eat 600-800 calories and exercise 8 hours a day asking questions about cleanses and the best foods to burn fat, etc. This is the study we need to be pointing towards for them.
For most of us here, losing at healthy pace, and learning about good nutrition and life-balance, it's not an issue. We aren't going to kill our metabolisms by healthy, slow, weight loss through good nutrition.2 -
SinomenJen wrote: »And to follow up on that thought there are contestants that DO keep the weight off! What is the difference between them?
https://healthyeater.com/biggest-loser-then-now
Thanks for that link. It looks like most of the winners have maintained a healthy weight.
Thanks too, ninerbuff.0
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