Crash Diets May Be Most Effective Weight Loss Technique
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It is best IMHO to fix your metabolism so you can eat more and not gain, then learn to live at that (much better number). I know I can eat 2000 and not gain no problem now, but I think by the time I am done I will be able to eat even more consistently and not gain, even now I have some days over that but not by much and not most of the time.girlviernes wrote: »To determine what is "healthier" you would need to measure other things as well, like muscle loss, change in health markers, incidence of health problems, etc.
Frankly, maintenance is very hard and most people struggle with it whether weight loss is fast or slow.
For me, what makes sense is to practice making changes that I can and intend to keep up for the rest of my life. If I can lose weight more quickly doing while that all the better, but I'm not on a time-frame (plus I want to preserve all those wonderful muscles that must be under there somewhere after hoisting 100 excess pounds for many years :P).
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I tend to be very careful about mentioning very low calorie diets because it's against forum rules, but I do believe it's a legitimate way of dieting if supervised by a doctor, especially if it done in bouts rather than extended periods and was supplemented well.
I don't personally adhere to them (simply because I love food too much), but it annoys me sometimes how some often discredit millions of years of evolution. We are not as fragile as we believe ourselves to be. A few days (or a few weeks) of being under the arbitrary 1200 number will not suddenly cause extreme atrophy, heart failure, fragile bones and a deficiency in every essential vitamin and mineral known to man.
As for the study, one point I have not seen discussed. What if both groups dieted for 36 weeks? How would adherence in both groups look like? I think time is the main culprit here. 12.5% is often not enough weight to lose for an obese person so the duration required is often much longer than 12 weeks. Granted going on a more extreme deficit does the job faster even if the person has a lot of weight to lose, but is there a certain point in time where adherence starts to taper off and flip in favor of a less extreme approach?0 -
Now fitness guys feel that the only way to weight loss is through exercise, but the real secret is learning how to deal with an empty stomach without heading for the refrigerator, as the pilot study showed.
As in a calorie deficit? Wow, that's excellent information that I've never seen anywhere before! Great job! Thanks for mentioning it
wrong.
As in getting used to an empty stomach and realize that there's nothing unusual about it and that the stomach should be empty for most of the time.
Obesity is learned behavior and it can be unlearn through a minimal amount of discipline.
As your body resets through this discipline, you will naturally run a calorie deficit and lose weight.
Yes, in a calorie deficit your stomach just might be empty from time to time. If the deficit was not necessary I'd stuff my face all day with whatever the heck I want - hungry or not
Breakfast on the other hand, well, I don't want to scare my coworkers by making them think a bomb is going off when my tummy starts rumbling
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Now fitness guys feel that the only way to weight loss is through exercise, but the real secret is learning how to deal with an empty stomach without heading for the refrigerator, as the pilot study showed.
As in a calorie deficit? Wow, that's excellent information that I've never seen anywhere before! Great job! Thanks for mentioning it
wrong.
As in getting used to an empty stomach and realize that there's nothing unusual about it and that the stomach should be empty for most of the time.
Obesity is learned behavior and it can be unlearn through a minimal amount of discipline.
As your body resets through this discipline, you will naturally run a calorie deficit and lose weight.
Yes, in a calorie deficit your stomach just might be empty from time to time. If the deficit was not necessary I'd stuff my face all day with whatever the heck I want - hungry or not
Breakfast on the other hand, well, I don't want to scare my coworkers by making them think a bomb is going off when my tummy starts rumbling
Read my large post again. You are missing a key concept..
Pretty sure a lot of people are missing your key concepts
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You can't make him eat breakfast?0
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baconslave wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
The song is a catchy tune.baconslave wrote: »Oh, LAWD, I feel like I'm in Groundhog Day. The same song keeps playing over and over....
Not a bad tune to hear over and over.
This Steve vs. MFP thing though...
Really? I get flagged for this. Clearly some people don't like that movie or just hate Bill Murray. In either case, I feel sorry for you for having bad taste.
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I love that movie, and most movies with Bill Murray in them. Although I've heard he's kind of a jerk.0
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OMG.
Just put him on ignore already....-1 -
Ignore is gone.
It is such a pain to have to look to see who is posting each response instead of just reading along.
I wish they'd bring Ignore back.0
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