Low Carb Vs .Low Glycemic Diet
SashaJaneJ
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Three years ago my chiropractor and myself talked about me losing weight. He put me on a 1200 calorie low carb plan. He recently upped my calories due to me being stuck and he said my body was in starvation mode. I have lost 5 pounds since the increase. I have lost 162 pounds to day by doing this plan and working out. Yesterday I went to my family doctor for a check up. Everything was good. Now he is wanting me to try a low glycemic diet. I really don't know what to do. I am afraid that it might mess up my weight loss if I switch plan. Any advice.
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Educate yourself. Decide how YOU want to lose weight. That's my advice. You know yourself best. Now, if you switch from low carb to slow carb (low glycemic) quickly, the scale will likely go up. But that's primarily water at first. if you think eating slow carb is sustainable for you, go for it. It's not unhealthy in any way if you eat enough calories.
ps: i eat fairly "slow carb" if you have questions about that PM me. Best of luck.0 -
As long as you keep your calories in check, you have nothing to worry about.
Eat foods low on the Glycemic Index and keep calories at or under your calorie goal. You will be fine.0 -
I agree with educating yourself and deciding what you think would be most sustainable for you. If you do decide to go to low gi rather than low carb, I would gradually increase the amount of carbs you're consuming rather than going all in at once. Maybe keep a journal of carb amount, how you feel, and weight. This way you can get to a carb number that works best for you.
Good luck!!0 -
Did he say WHY he wants you on a low GI diet? I mean, losing 162 lbs is a hell of an accomplishment so you'd think he'd say "carry on!". If you are happy with what you are eating, then I'd say keep going.
That said, neither low carb nor low GI are strictly required for weight loss. A calorie deficit is. He might be worried about continued compliance with the low carb diet, as it can be quite restricting. Maybe he thinks you'd do better gradually re-introducing some carbs?0 -
richardheath wrote: »Did he say WHY he wants you on a low GI diet? I mean, losing 162 lbs is a hell of an accomplishment so you'd think he'd say "carry on!". If you are happy with what you are eating, then I'd say keep going.
That said, neither low carb nor low GI are strictly required for weight loss. A calorie deficit is. He might be worried about continued compliance with the low carb diet, as it can be quite restricting. Maybe he thinks you'd do better gradually re-introducing some carbs?
I really don't know why he wants me to do the low glycemic diet. He never explained why.
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Why did he want you low carb?SashaJaneJ wrote: »richardheath wrote: »Did he say WHY he wants you on a low GI diet? I mean, losing 162 lbs is a hell of an accomplishment so you'd think he'd say "carry on!". If you are happy with what you are eating, then I'd say keep going.
That said, neither low carb nor low GI are strictly required for weight loss. A calorie deficit is. He might be worried about continued compliance with the low carb diet, as it can be quite restricting. Maybe he thinks you'd do better gradually re-introducing some carbs?
I really don't know why he wants me to do the low glycemic diet. He never explained why.
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Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »
Why did he want you low carb?SashaJaneJ wrote: »richardheath wrote: »Did he say WHY he wants you on a low GI diet? I mean, losing 162 lbs is a hell of an accomplishment so you'd think he'd say "carry on!". If you are happy with what you are eating, then I'd say keep going.
That said, neither low carb nor low GI are strictly required for weight loss. A calorie deficit is. He might be worried about continued compliance with the low carb diet, as it can be quite restricting. Maybe he thinks you'd do better gradually re-introducing some carbs?
I really don't know why he wants me to do the low glycemic diet. He never explained why.
I am a diabetic and on insulin.0 -
Low carb means a certain number of grams of carbohydrate, those carbs can be low glycemic index and probably are as most people go low carb by cutting out the high GI stuff.
If he's talking about Glycemic Load that too will be low on a low carb diet.
So I would ask for guidance on what the target would be, I don't think they have to be exclusive.0 -
Both guys are essentially talking about the same thing. Call the doctor's office back for clarification.0
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Chiropractors aren't doctors. You might as well ask your personal trainer how to handle your health as ask a chiropractor.
Go with the doctor. If you want a second opinion, try a second doctor.
I don't follow glycemic index much. I know it's different than just carbs or just sugar. OJ is moderate on the glycemic index. I remember that. It's a weird thing. If you end up going that route, get a referral to a dietician and go over it with them. They should know that stuff inside out. 0 -
You could even ask your doctor for an appointment with a nutritionist who specializes in diabetes. Many diabetics do find low carb diets can help regulate their blood sugar, although some find they can eat moderate amounts of low glycemic index ones. [Obviously, you know to avoid lots of added sugar and the like!] It will really depend on you and what your meter says.
Diet is a critical aspect (along with exercise and weight loss and medicine) in keeping diabetes under control and your Doctor (NOT your chiropracter!) should take the time to educate you on this, or refer you to someone who can.
NOTE: Glycemic Index of foods really doesn't relate very well to "real life" - it just looks at an individual item in isolation. How often does one simply eat one item of food without anything else? Glycemic Load is a better scale as it looks at combinations, but it isn't perfect. Use your glucometer to find how the meals you actually eat affect you personally.0 -
SashaJaneJ wrote: »Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »
Why did he want you low carb?SashaJaneJ wrote: »richardheath wrote: »Did he say WHY he wants you on a low GI diet? I mean, losing 162 lbs is a hell of an accomplishment so you'd think he'd say "carry on!". If you are happy with what you are eating, then I'd say keep going.
That said, neither low carb nor low GI are strictly required for weight loss. A calorie deficit is. He might be worried about continued compliance with the low carb diet, as it can be quite restricting. Maybe he thinks you'd do better gradually re-introducing some carbs?
I really don't know why he wants me to do the low glycemic diet. He never explained why.
I am a diabetic and on insulin.
Then you do need to restrict carbs. Fiber will be your friend when it comes to carbs. Avoid eating fast digesting carbs like white bread, pasteries, candy, etc. Especially alone. If you eat them with protein or fiber it will prevent the sharp rise in blood sugar that is dangerous for diabetics.
I would ask your doctor to refer you to a dietician to help formulate the best eating plan for your disease. www.diabetes.org (American Diabetes Association site) can also be a good resource. They even offer a free cookbook for diabetics.0 -
The flaw with glycemic index is that it's derived from a sample of 50 grams of a given food.richardheath wrote: »Glycemic Load is a better scale as it looks at combinations, but it isn't perfect.
Glycemic load uses the Glycemic index as a base and then factors in an average portion size.
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richardheath wrote: »You could even ask your doctor for an appointment with a nutritionist who specializes in diabetes. Many diabetics do find low carb diets can help regulate their blood sugar, although some find they can eat moderate amounts of low glycemic index ones. [Obviously, you know to avoid lots of added sugar and the like!] It will really depend on you and what your meter says.
Diet is a critical aspect (along with exercise and weight loss and medicine) in keeping diabetes under control and your Doctor (NOT your chiropracter!) should take the time to educate you on this, or refer you to someone who can.
NOTE: Glycemic Index of foods really doesn't relate very well to "real life" - it just looks at an individual item in isolation. How often does one simply eat one item of food without anything else? Glycemic Load is a better scale as it looks at combinations, but it isn't perfect. Use your glucometer to find how the meals you actually eat affect you personally.
This is true. And frankly, some diabetics have issues processing one food, and not a problem with others. I had gestational diabetes with my last child (it went away about 6 months after the birth) but I could handle a reasonable serving of pasta. Potatoes (sweet or white) and bread (even whole grain breads) however completely blew my blood sugar reading to Hades. My mother is a diabetic and bread doesn't give her issues, but noodles and rice do.
richardheath is right. Use the index and Gylcemic Load as guidelines, then use your readings to fine tune how your body responds. This will give you better control over your bs levels. My mother has been hospitalized countless times due to diabetic complications. It's better to ratchet down on diet now. Diabetes can get nasty down the road for you if you do not. Now my mother has finally been watching her carb count and carb types, and the insulin she needs has decreased greatly. She hopes one day to just need the meds only and no more insulin. But her health is still precarious since she spent all those years not watching her diet while diabetes did it's dirty work.
I'm not trying to scare you. But this can get serious. OP, you seem like you are willing to stay on top of it though. Do look into a registered dietician if you are confused or unsure about it all. Setting yourself on the right path now, being proactive, will improve your quality of life in the future. I know more about this than I want to.
Best wishes.
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You got diet advice from a chiropractor?0
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baconslave wrote: »
could of been worse, she could of gotten advice from Dr. Oz. ..0 -
baconslave wrote: »
could of been worse, she could of gotten advice from Dr. Oz. ..
Yep. That's definitely worse.
Chiropractors at least, as many people I know report, give you a good back-crackin.' Dr. Oz only offers to fleece your pockets and steal what little intelligence you have left.
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SashaJaneJ wrote: »Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »
Why did he want you low carb?SashaJaneJ wrote: »richardheath wrote: »Did he say WHY he wants you on a low GI diet? I mean, losing 162 lbs is a hell of an accomplishment so you'd think he'd say "carry on!". If you are happy with what you are eating, then I'd say keep going.
That said, neither low carb nor low GI are strictly required for weight loss. A calorie deficit is. He might be worried about continued compliance with the low carb diet, as it can be quite restricting. Maybe he thinks you'd do better gradually re-introducing some carbs?
I really don't know why he wants me to do the low glycemic diet. He never explained why.
I am a diabetic and on insulin.
Low GI diet is the next evolution. Stick to low carb, but then when eating veggies and fruits, you just need to adjust what kinds. This is a great way to further control your blood sugars. I would think of it as an additional variable in your diet, not a different diet. As a diabetic, you should learn about Glycemic Index as well as Glycemic Load. Educate yourself on your foods, and you should still be able to lose weight.0 -
(sometimes called glycemic impact, depending on where you are). And learn about what can BLUNT that impact. i.e.: why bread with peanut butter is better (in terms of impact) than just bread etc.SashaJaneJ wrote: »Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »
Why did he want you low carb?SashaJaneJ wrote: »richardheath wrote: »Did he say WHY he wants you on a low GI diet? I mean, losing 162 lbs is a hell of an accomplishment so you'd think he'd say "carry on!". If you are happy with what you are eating, then I'd say keep going.
That said, neither low carb nor low GI are strictly required for weight loss. A calorie deficit is. He might be worried about continued compliance with the low carb diet, as it can be quite restricting. Maybe he thinks you'd do better gradually re-introducing some carbs?
I really don't know why he wants me to do the low glycemic diet. He never explained why.
I am a diabetic and on insulin.
Low GI diet is the next evolution. Stick to low carb, but then when eating veggies and fruits, you just need to adjust what kinds. This is a great way to further control your blood sugars. I would think of it as an additional variable in your diet, not a different diet. As a diabetic, you should learn about Glycemic Index as well as Glycemic Load. Educate yourself on your foods, and you should still be able to lose weight.
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richardheath wrote: »You could even ask your doctor for an appointment with a nutritionist who specializes in diabetes. Many diabetics do find low carb diets can help regulate their blood sugar, although some find they can eat moderate amounts of low glycemic index ones. [Obviously, you know to avoid lots of added sugar and the like!] It will really depend on you and what your meter says.
Diet is a critical aspect (along with exercise and weight loss and medicine) in keeping diabetes under control and your Doctor (NOT your chiropracter!) should take the time to educate you on this, or refer you to someone who can.
NOTE: Glycemic Index of foods really doesn't relate very well to "real life" - it just looks at an individual item in isolation. How often does one simply eat one item of food without anything else? Glycemic Load is a better scale as it looks at combinations, but it isn't perfect. Use your glucometer to find how the meals you actually eat affect you personally.
^^ This the meter helps to see how your body is reacting to the foods on a daily basis.
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You may wish to do some research, going from low carb to slow carb is not straight forward and needs to be approached methodically, low carb diets can result in reduced insulin sensitivity. Carb load is a factor as mentioned by other posters . I would introduce the carbs in moderation preferably in a 40 min window either pre or post training0
So true.
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