Gaining Weight 'Cause you don't eat enough...

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  • 50sFit
    50sFit Posts: 712 Member
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    jthalberg wrote: »
    Does anyone have experience with this? I've lost about 100# and started gaining some weight back after kicking up exercise. Nutritionists and friends advised that my body is starving and now storing becuase I'm exercising and not eating enough. Thoughts?
    Your nutritionist as well as some friends may be addressing what they suspect is your stifled metabolism or whacked out hormones. If this is the case, you might gain back some weight. What they're probably telling you is that you're under eating.
    That's my guess.
    And well done losing the weight; good luck with your continued progress. :)


  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
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    SkauGirl wrote: »
    Yes, you can. I sent you a message because I don't like the drama these threads tend to breed. Listen to your nutritionist, they have the degree in this stuff :) Good luck!
    You don't like drama, yet you are creating plenty with your response. Anybody can call themselves a nutritionist.

    You and the nutritionist are 100 percent incorrect.
  • Losingthedamnweight
    Losingthedamnweight Posts: 535 Member
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    Oh boy. This is gonna be fun. First of all, congrats on the weight lost so far!

    Secondly, and it's really hard to say this without having some kind of tone, so just take it for what it is. There is no way you are going to gain weight by eating less. How would that even happen? Fat is just created from nowhere? Maybe you breathe too much air too? How many calories does air have?

    Just think about it for a second. Do some googling.
  • lorib642
    lorib642 Posts: 1,942 Member
    edited October 2014
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    SLLRunner wrote: »
    SkauGirl wrote: »
    Yes, you can. I sent you a message because I don't like the drama these threads tend to breed. Listen to your nutritionist, they have the degree in this stuff :) Good luck!
    You don't like drama, yet you are creating plenty with your response. Anybody can call themselves a nutritionist.

    You and the nutritionist are 100 percent incorrect.

    Really, I was looking for a dietician and said nutritionist instead and I was getting referrals to specialists in digestive disorders.

    ETA: nm you are right, I don't know why I was getting sent there
  • AmiCeresi
    AmiCeresi Posts: 11 Member
    edited October 2014
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    Are you gaining muscle tone? A pound of muscle takes up less space than a pound of fat. I went through what looked like a weight loss plateau on paper that concealed the fact that I was losing a lot of fat and gaining muscle from my workouts.
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,268 Member
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    OP you should have just titled this post I am in starvation mode so said my friend and a nutritionist...you answered your own question in the question.
    Does anyone have experience with this? I've lost about 100# and started gaining some weight back after kicking up exercise

    After kicking up exercise you will retain water and glycogen in the muscles which looks like weight gain.

    You do realize I could be a nutritionist if I spent 100$ on an online course.

    The eat more to lose weight group is not about not being in starvation mode it's about educating people that you don't have to go on a VLCD to lose weight. This is because if you eat VLCD you don't have the energy to move as much as you could be moving with more fuel in your body.

    And so as not to offend, think about people with eating disorders...they eat far below 1200 normally and they do not hold onto fat, they are slowly starving themselves to death.

    After a period of time yes if you eat VLCD your metabolism adapts but that is not your body "holding onto fat" it is your body saying "holy crap I am not getting enough nutrition, vitamins, minerals, macros etc and I need to reduce my usage"

    So it starts with non essential operations such as hair growth, nails etc...moves onto other things and then later starts with lean mass and eventually moves to the organs...where you then will suffer greatly....but no where in this scenario does your body say

    "whoa I am not getting enough food let me store or create fat from no where"
  • WalkingAlong
    WalkingAlong Posts: 4,926 Member
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    jthalberg wrote: »
    Does anyone have experience with this? I've lost about 100# and started gaining some weight back after kicking up exercise. Nutritionists and friends advised that my body is starving and now storing becuase I'm exercising and not eating enough. Thoughts?

    I think the 'starving and storing' is a common fear because it has a grain of truth, sort of. Your body responds to decrease in calories by being less active across a day (despite intentional exercise).

    I agree that your weight gain can be water retention from your new exercise regimen and you could also be gaining some muscle (yes, even at a deficit).

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11063433?dopt=Abstract
    CONCLUSIONS:
    "Energy restriction produces a transient hypothyroid-hypometabolic state that normalizes on return to energy-balanced conditions. Failure to establish energy balance after weight loss gives the misleading impression that weight-reduced persons are energy conservative and predisposed to weight regain. Our findings do not provide evidence in support of adaptive metabolic changes as an explanation for the tendency of weight-reduced persons to regain weight."
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
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    WalkingAlong wrote: »
    jthalberg wrote: »
    Does anyone have experience with this? I've lost about 100# and started gaining some weight back after kicking up exercise. Nutritionists and friends advised that my body is starving and now storing becuase I'm exercising and not eating enough. Thoughts?

    I think the 'starving and storing' is a common fear because it has a grain of truth, sort of. Your body responds to decrease in calories by being less active across a day (despite intentional exercise).

    I agree that your weight gain can be water retention from your new exercise regimen and you could also be gaining some muscle (yes, even at a deficit).

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11063433?dopt=Abstract
    CONCLUSIONS:
    "Energy restriction produces a transient hypothyroid-hypometabolic state that normalizes on return to energy-balanced conditions. Failure to establish energy balance after weight loss gives the misleading impression that weight-reduced persons are energy conservative and predisposed to weight regain. Our findings do not provide evidence in support of adaptive metabolic changes as an explanation for the tendency of weight-reduced persons to regain weight."
    Doubtful on the muscle.
  • ThePhoenixIsRising
    ThePhoenixIsRising Posts: 781 Member
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    SLLRunner wrote: »
    WalkingAlong wrote: »
    jthalberg wrote: »
    Does anyone have experience with this? I've lost about 100# and started gaining some weight back after kicking up exercise. Nutritionists and friends advised that my body is starving and now storing becuase I'm exercising and not eating enough. Thoughts?

    I think the 'starving and storing' is a common fear because it has a grain of truth, sort of. Your body responds to decrease in calories by being less active across a day (despite intentional exercise).

    I agree that your weight gain can be water retention from your new exercise regimen and you could also be gaining some muscle (yes, even at a deficit).

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11063433?dopt=Abstract
    CONCLUSIONS:
    "Energy restriction produces a transient hypothyroid-hypometabolic state that normalizes on return to energy-balanced conditions. Failure to establish energy balance after weight loss gives the misleading impression that weight-reduced persons are energy conservative and predisposed to weight regain. Our findings do not provide evidence in support of adaptive metabolic changes as an explanation for the tendency of weight-reduced persons to regain weight."
    Doubtful on the muscle.

    Agreed, if there is muscle gain it isn't enough to register on a scale.
  • WalkingAlong
    WalkingAlong Posts: 4,926 Member
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    SLLRunner wrote: »
    Doubtful on the muscle.
    This is just a blog but he links to a study. There is plenty of evidence that new exercisers can gain some mass fairly easily, just not for long and not a whole lot, usually.
    http://muscleevo.net/calorie-deficit/#.VEJqn_ldUa8
    "In summary, some people can and do build a decent amount of muscle while they’re in a calorie deficit."

  • SLLRunner
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    WalkingAlong wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    Doubtful on the muscle.
    This is just a blog but he links to a study. There is plenty of evidence that new exercisers can gain some mass fairly easily, just not for long and not a whole lot, usually.
    http://muscleevo.net/calorie-deficit/#.VEJqn_ldUa8
    "In summary, some people can and do build a decent amount of muscle while they’re in a calorie deficit."
    Clearly, the OP is not a newbie at weight loss or exercise. :wink:
  • WalkingAlong
    WalkingAlong Posts: 4,926 Member
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    I don't want to start a debate about 'noob gains'. I don't know how anyone knows the OP is not new to exercise but I didn't go read his/her profile, either.

    Wow, it's like it's 2012 and I said "Yes, you can eat under your BMR." ;)
  • ThePhoenixIsRising
    ThePhoenixIsRising Posts: 781 Member
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    WalkingAlong wrote: »
    I don't want to start a debate about 'noob gains'. I don't know how anyone knows the OP is not new to exercise but I didn't go read his/her profile, either.

    Wow, it's like it's 2012 and I said "Yes, you can eat under your BMR." ;)

    You may be able to make noob gains in muscle, but if at a deficit the gains won't show in the scale. Shrug*
  • ThePhoenixIsRising
    ThePhoenixIsRising Posts: 781 Member
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    MrM27 wrote: »
    ThePhoenixIsRising wrote: »
    WalkingAlong wrote: »
    I don't want to start a debate about 'noob gains'. I don't know how anyone knows the OP is not new to exercise but I didn't go read his/her profile, either.

    Wow, it's like it's 2012 and I said "Yes, you can eat under your BMR." ;)

    You may be able to make noob gains in muscle, but if at a deficit the gains won't show in the scale. Shrug*
    Pretty. Measurable noob gains aren't being made on "poverty calories". Not feeling like debating muscle gains with people who have never actually ran a bulk. Pointless

    I am running a bulk, thank you!

    I agree measurable noob gains won't be made on a deficit, this is why people saying noob gains is the reason for scale weight increases on a deficit is rediculous! Not sure what I said that you would even want to debate.
  • WalkingAlong
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    For the record, I didn't flag your post, MrM. I know how that bugs you. o:)

    Some of you are making a lot of assumptions on who has what level of experience at what.
  • eric_sg61
    eric_sg61 Posts: 2,925 Member
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    WalkingAlong wrote: »
    For the record, I didn't flag your post, MrM. I know how that bugs you. o:)

    Some of you are making a lot of assumptions on who has what level of experience at what.
    Like making assumptions that the OP is even lifting weights or actively trying to gain muscle. Building muscle doesn't happen by accident.
  • jthalberg
    jthalberg Posts: 2 Member
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    Thank you everyone for your support. A few comments:
    1. If you ask 100 people, looks like you get 100 opinions.
    2. "Troll"?? Really? If this is supposed to be a support group to learn and support each other, accuing me of anything besides trying to lear, maybe the 'haters' shoud stop throwing mud!
    3. Thanks for the thoughts on water retention! I'm drinking about 10 glasses a day... really want to get through this transition and I was told this AP would help. Never thought that social media could be so hurtful.
    4. You can ignore my posts if you don't want to be constructive, I'm just trying to learn and share with others. Thank you to those who were constructive.
    5.
  • jnv7594
    jnv7594 Posts: 983 Member
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    This is not really a "support group" in the traditional sense. You will learn that fast. Rarely do you see a thread without one or more people being nasty in it. They really need to give us an ignore function. If there is one, I don't see it. It would help weed out some people...one in particular in this thread is always snarky.

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