Eating more calories?

missylectro
missylectro Posts: 448 Member
edited November 8 in Health and Weight Loss
I apparently have a low metabolism which prevents me from losing weight from eating around 1700 calories a day, which is below my calculated TDEE and therefore I should be losing... I'm considering lowering my calories (again) to 1200 which is where I lost the most weight when I did. Problem is (according to my friend) that what if I eat at 1200 and am not losing? She claims that you need to eat more calories than 1200 in order to lose... But what if my metabolism is crap?

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  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    Everyone is going to say the same thing: Are you weighing all of your food? Logging it all? Etc.

    Let's say you really are, there are lots of numbers between 1200 and 1700 to mess around with.

    People on here don't usually recommend 1200. I did it for a little kick in the *kitten*. I lost weight, but I put it back up slowly and continued to lose.
  • cookmtn
    cookmtn Posts: 156 Member
    Why drop 500 calories? Why not lower by 100 calories, give it a couple weeks, and if that shows no change, lower by another 100. Weight loss takes time. If you want specific advice give age, weight, height, how much you want to lose, if you weigh your food with a digital scale, and open your diary.
  • Robbnva
    Robbnva Posts: 590 Member
    Definitely do 1200 if you can, especially if 1700 isn't working for you. Stay above 1000 net cories imo
  • cookmtn
    cookmtn Posts: 156 Member
    I see from your profile you only have 7 lbs to lose. It will go VERY slowly now. Large deficits will do more harm then good.
  • Branstin
    Branstin Posts: 2,320 Member
    How long has it been since you last lost weight?
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Definitely do 1200 if you can, especially if 1700 isn't working for you. Stay above 1000 net cories imo

    Don't listen to that.

  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    The small amount you have to lose makes it all more imperative that you tighten your logging belt.
  • missylectro
    missylectro Posts: 448 Member
    My diary is open.
    Last time I lost weight was two weeks ago but I'm beginning to think it was just water cuz I quickly gained it back. Before that... I don't remember... more than 6 months

  • missylectro
    missylectro Posts: 448 Member
    Also I'm weighing and measuring everything
  • missylectro
    missylectro Posts: 448 Member
    cookmtn wrote: »
    I see from your profile you only have 7 lbs to lose. It will go VERY slowly now. Large deficits will do more harm then good.

    Your math is off... I have around 20 pounds to go
  • 50sFit
    50sFit Posts: 712 Member
    arditarose wrote: »
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Definitely do 1200 if you can, especially if 1700 isn't working for you. Stay above 1000 net cories imo

    Don't listen to that.
    Yep, that was the voice of absurdity... :o

  • missylectro
    missylectro Posts: 448 Member
    :o
    LOL
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    hmmm, diary looks alright. What's your TDEE? Maybe try 1500 calories or so. I don't think it's blasphemous to eat at 1200 for a short period of time, but I find lots of people on here disagree.
  • missylectro
    missylectro Posts: 448 Member
    arditarose wrote: »
    hmmm, diary looks alright. What's your TDEE? Maybe try 1500 calories or so. I don't think it's blasphemous to eat at 1200 for a short period of time, but I find lots of people on here disagree.

    My TDEE should be anywhere between 2000-2500... Different calculators give different TDEE.. I calculated it once based on my logging and I think it was 2200... But if that was my TDEE I should be losing at 1700 calories...

    Thank you. I think I can eat a lot of food and it would be around 1200... I eat very clean usually.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    how long have you been dieting/cutting for? how long did you previously eat at 1200 calories? what does your work out regimen consist of?
  • missylectro
    missylectro Posts: 448 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    how long have you been dieting/cutting for? how long did you previously eat at 1200 calories? what does your work out regimen consist of?
    I've been watching what I eat for over a year but got frustrated last summer and kinda ate whatever I wanted for a while... When I was eating at 1200 I lasted about 2 months. Now is different because I eat healthier and more in volume less in calorie (I have 6 meals a day). I work out 6 times a week. Doing Turbofire right now so a lot of cardio and stregth training at the gym a couple times a week.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    is 1700 a 500 per day deficit for you?

    My suggestions would be to eat at 1950 for a while and see how your body responds..with dieting for over a year you may have metabolic adaptation …

    sure, you can keep cutting lower and lower, but eventually your work outs are going to suffer and you are going to be starving all the time….
  • missylectro
    missylectro Posts: 448 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    is 1700 a 500 per day deficit for you?

    My suggestions would be to eat at 1950 for a while and see how your body responds..with dieting for over a year you may have metabolic adaptation …

    sure, you can keep cutting lower and lower, but eventually your work outs are going to suffer and you are going to be starving all the time….

    Something like that, sometimes a 300 calorie deficit or lower... What's "a while"?
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    is 1700 a 500 per day deficit for you?

    My suggestions would be to eat at 1950 for a while and see how your body responds..with dieting for over a year you may have metabolic adaptation …

    sure, you can keep cutting lower and lower, but eventually your work outs are going to suffer and you are going to be starving all the time….

    Something like that, sometimes a 300 calorie deficit or lower... What's "a while"?

    two weeks …and then re-assess...
  • doctorsookie
    doctorsookie Posts: 1,084 Member
    cookmtn wrote: »
    I see from your profile you only have 7 lbs to lose. It will go VERY slowly now. Large deficits will do more harm then good.

    ^^^the last 15 are the hardest to get off. I'm about to lower my calories again too to jump start things again but I refuse to go to 1200 again. It was five when I had to lose 70 pounds but I only have fifteen to go. Well, 4.8 to my original goal which is the high end of my healthy weight. I'll reassess after that goal is met.
  • missylectro
    missylectro Posts: 448 Member
    cookmtn wrote: »
    I see from your profile you only have 7 lbs to lose. It will go VERY slowly now. Large deficits will do more harm then good.

    ^^^the last 15 are the hardest to get off. I'm about to lower my calories again too to jump start things again but I refuse to go to 1200 again. It was five when I had to lose 70 pounds but I only have fifteen to go. Well, 4.8 to my original goal which is the high end of my healthy weight. I'll reassess after that goal is met.

    They're not my last 15... I might want to lose more... but yeah it definitely is harder
  • rileysowner
    rileysowner Posts: 8,336 Member
    As others have stated don't jump down to 1200. If you are going to reduce your calorie goal, try taking 100-200 calories off and see what happens in 4 weeks. Re-evaluate at that point.
  • missylectro
    missylectro Posts: 448 Member
    As others have stated don't jump down to 1200. If you are going to reduce your calorie goal, try taking 100-200 calories off and see what happens in 4 weeks. Re-evaluate at that point.

    Doing :)
  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
    edited October 2014
    Well it won't let me quote you, but OP, consider only weighing. Measuring is okay for liquids. not for solids. 10 asparagus spears is neither weighing nor measuring. Your peanut butter could also be way more than you think it is (trust me, it's easy to think that you are spooning out 15g when you are really spooning out 25g).

    Also "Home" and "homemade." Are these YOUR recipes? Or generic user entries?
    How did you weigh your chicken breast, cooked or raw? Your entry doesn't specify. And 1cup raw fresh veggies.... which veggies? 1 cup of spinach will not be the same as a cup of... idk, carrots. Are they packed in there? etc.

    I dont' see why you have some solids weighed and others measured. Is it that much more difficult to weigh all solids? I weigh EVERYTHING. So overall, your logging is not tight enough. Start being more aware of your logging practices, along with making sure that a) the entries you use are valid (cross-check produce etc with websites like usda, skipthepie, etc), b) ensure you are using the correct entry for what you are logging (e.g. is your lean ground beef raw or cooked when you weigh it, and is the entry raw or cooked to match this? Also be aware that at least here in Alberta, EXTRA lean ground beef is the equivalent of LEAN ground beef on nutrition data websites; it has more fat).

    Also, you are either not logging EVERYTHING EVERY day, or you are severely undereating on occasions. Either scenario affects your weekly average intake, which is what counts for weight loss. If you only log half your day then you have no way of knowing if you actually ate like 2600 calories instead of 1800.
  • missylectro
    missylectro Posts: 448 Member
    ana3067 wrote: »
    Well it won't let me quote you, but OP, consider only weighing. Measuring is okay for liquids. not for solids. 10 asparagus spears is neither weighing nor measuring. Your peanut butter could also be way more than you think it is (trust me, it's easy to think that you are spooning out 15g when you are really spooning out 25g).

    Also "Home" and "homemade." Are these YOUR recipes? Or generic user entries?
    How did you weigh your chicken breast, cooked or raw? Your entry doesn't specify. And 1cup raw fresh veggies.... which veggies? 1 cup of spinach will not be the same as a cup of... idk, carrots. Are they packed in there? etc.

    I dont' see why you have some solids weighed and others measured. Is it that much more difficult to weigh all solids? I weigh EVERYTHING. So overall, your logging is not tight enough. Start being more aware of your logging practices, along with making sure that a) the entries you use are valid (cross-check produce etc with websites like usda, skipthepie, etc), b) ensure you are using the correct entry for what you are logging (e.g. is your lean ground beef raw or cooked when you weigh it, and is the entry raw or cooked to match this? Also be aware that at least here in Alberta, EXTRA lean ground beef is the equivalent of LEAN ground beef on nutrition data websites; it has more fat).

    Also, you are either not logging EVERYTHING EVERY day, or you are severely undereating on occasions. Either scenario affects your weekly average intake, which is what counts for weight loss. If you only log half your day then you have no way of knowing if you actually ate like 2600 calories instead of 1800.

    I don't weigh everything because I can't find them all in the database in grams.
    I weigh my meat before I cook it - raw.

    Thanks for the tips tho. I guess I'll have to do my own research on the items I can't find the database.
  • Robbnva
    Robbnva Posts: 590 Member
    arditarose wrote: »
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Definitely do 1200 if you can, especially if 1700 isn't working for you. Stay above 1000 net cories imo

    Don't listen to that.
    I don't know why not. That is basically what I have done and I have had plenty of success. Yes I realize this is an old post but I just saw your response today. Down 80lbs in less than 8 months. :smiley:
  • girlviernes
    girlviernes Posts: 2,402 Member
    Because it is too low, should not be done unless under medical supervision. Minimums for most women - 1200, men - 1800 (some say 1500, maybe so for older or shorter males). Below that is a very low calorie diet (VLCD) which certainly can work but needs to be done through a doctor and ideally with a dietitian to ensure you have sufficient nutrients and the correct supplementation.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Robbnva wrote: »
    arditarose wrote: »
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Definitely do 1200 if you can, especially if 1700 isn't working for you. Stay above 1000 net cories imo

    Don't listen to that.
    I don't know why not. That is basically what I have done and I have had plenty of success. Yes I realize this is an old post but I just saw your response today. Down 80lbs in less than 8 months. :smiley:

    why go from 1700 to 1200…why not go to 1600 see what happens then go to 1500 see what happens etc…

    I mean yea if you want to be skinny fat and lose a bunch of muscle…sure drop down from 1700 to 1200...
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Robbnva wrote: »
    arditarose wrote: »
    Robbnva wrote: »
    Definitely do 1200 if you can, especially if 1700 isn't working for you. Stay above 1000 net cories imo

    Don't listen to that.
    I don't know why not. That is basically what I have done and I have had plenty of success. Yes I realize this is an old post but I just saw your response today. Down 80lbs in less than 8 months. :smiley:

    why go from 1700 to 1200…why not go to 1600 see what happens then go to 1500 see what happens etc…

    I mean yea if you want to be skinny fat and lose a bunch of muscle…sure drop down from 1700 to 1200...

    Right.
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