80.10.10

fitsporation96

Hello all,

I was wondering about 80.10.10 or raw till 4, has anyone had any experience with this diet/ lifestyle change? I have 35 pounds to lose as I gained more weight from overeating this past week, I want to try something like this as it is meant to work.

Thank you.

LiveLoveRunFar

My daughter lives raw to 4. She lost 30 pounds in about 8 months. She has a lot of energy. She's maintaining now as she has lost the weight she needed, but stays on the plan. I did it for 5 weeks and lost 15 pounds (put stalled the last 2 weeks). The first 2 weeks is like a cleanse to your system. I felt wonderful on the program. Then all of a sudden scale said I gained 5 pounds, so had to shock my system with junk, and the next day it was back down 5 pounds.....so have to figure out whats going on. But it is a great program, gave me a lot of energy, felt really really great. So, I don't see anything wrong with trying it, it may work for you it may not.

MKEgal

fitsporation96 wrote:

I was wondering about 80.10.10 or raw till 4, has anyone had any experience with this diet/ lifestyle change?

Read this:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1080242/a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants


Any change which results in eating fewer calories than you burn will result in weight loss.

Any change has to be sustainable for the rest of your life, or you will regain the weight when you go back to your normal eating habits.

Any fad which advocates going outside established nutritional ranges should be avoided.
From what I've been able to read, 80-10-10 is one of those.

Here are some of the just plain silly ideas:

http://foodnsport.com/faq.php
"fruit during the day, and a LARGE salad for dinner."
"90 - 95% of your calories come from sweet fruit, 2-6% from leafy greens, vegetables and non-sweet fruits, and 0 - 8% from nuts and seeds"
"Applying heat to foods provides no nutritional benefit to the food and is detrimental to the person ingesting the cooked food."
"the immune system often reacts to the introduction of cooked food into the bloodstream the same way it does to foreign pathogens such as bacteria, viruses, and fungi" Well, yeah, if you put food directly into the blood, of course that's gonna happen.
"cooked foods are considered to be a major contributor to what are called the diseases of civilization: cancer, heart disease, and diabetes"
"There is no essential nutrient in meat, grains, legumes, or dairy that is not also available in fruits, vegetables, nuts, and seeds, and in a form that is easier to digest." This is false.
"salt, spices, and condiments, the deadly excitotoxins"
"cooked grains create a condition known as acid toxemia"
"Yeast, or candida, is a constant presence in the blood; it serves as a life preservation mechanism, blooming when there is an excess of sugar in the blood stream to bring blood sugar down to a non-threatening level." No. Just, no.

He goes on about the "toxins" and "putrefication" that happens in the digestive tract , as well as "detoxification" and "cleansing".
Pretty sure sign of a quack.
Be sure to read the section titled, "What are some of the toxins that accumulate in the body from eating cooked foods?" and the one titled "Should I continue taking medicine prescribed by my doctor if I adopt the raw food lifestyle?", and finally at the bottom "What does "mono-eating" mean?"

Ten percent of calories (or thereabouts) from fat is widely recommended by health experts and nutritionists for maximum health and fitness results.
http://foodnsport.com/blog/The-Low-Fat-Diet-in-a-Nutshell.html

This is false.
Here's a table which explains the healthy ranges for macronutrients:
http://www.iom.edu/Global/News Announcements/~/media/C5CD2DD7840544979A549EC47E56A02B.ashx

page 1, carbs, 45 - 65% of calories (4 cal per gram)
page 2, fat, 20 - 35% of calories (9 cal per gram)
page 4, protein, 10 - 35% of calories (4 cal per gram)

Eating higher protein & lower carbs leads to more weight loss. Links to studies in my blog post:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/MKEgal/view/2014-08-09-high-protein-diet-685553
Try 45% carbs, 20% fat, 35% protein
For a 2000 cal per day allotment, that would be:
900 cal carbs = 225 g
400 cal fat = 44 g
700 cal protein = 175 g

MKEgal

More articles:

http://www.womenshealthmag.com/weight-loss/80-10-10

"protein deficiency can interfere with normal hemoglobin, antibody, hormonal and digestive functions, as well as inhibit normal nutrient absorption. Some people following the diet might also become deficient in zinc, selenium and vitamin B-12, a nutrient essential for brain function and the formation of red blood cells."
http://www.livestrong.com/article/287768-801010-raw-food-diet/

A blog post describing the problems she had, how much she gained.
http://fitgreenandgorgeous.wordpress.com/2013/03/11/my-personal-experience-on-801010/


And realize that you need fat in your diet to absorb vitamins A, D, E, & K. Those relate to eye health, bone strength, blood clotting (or not)... pretty serious stuff.
(BTW, the guy who came up with the diet is a chiropractor, not a doctor, not a dietician.)

MKEgal

albalegume wrote:

I did it for 5 weeks and lost 15 pounds (put stalled the last 2 weeks). The first 2 weeks is like a cleanse to your system. I felt wonderful on the program. Then all of a sudden scale said I gained 5 pounds, so had to shock my system with junk, and the next day it was back down 5 pounds... so have to figure out whats going on.

The body cleanses itself, via the liver, kidneys, & skin. You don't need to do any program or eat anything in particular for that to work.

As for the apparent gain & loss of weight, it's probably a scale issue. There's no way you could eat that much, or exercise enough, to gain or lose 5 lb of tissue in a day. A couple pounds of it might be water weight, but that's about it.