TDEE - 20% Help - Why has it stopped?

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  • WalkingAlong
    WalkingAlong Posts: 4,926 Member
    stuart160 wrote: »
    Rather than tell anyone else what to do here is a site that we use at my Health and Wellness Center to help people stay on track. We have verified the results by having people use the site and then placing them in our BodBod and the results are not far off in comparison: http://www.fat2fittools.com. I hope it helps you restart your journey.

    And I don't know how a BodPod can verify 'results' of a blog. A BodPod estimates body fat percent. That blog estimates TDEE, apparently using the outdated Harris Benedict equation.

    And the OP and the people responding all seem to understand the difference between BMR and TDEE.

  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
    stuart160 wrote: »
    Rather than tell anyone else what to do here is a site that we use at my Health and Wellness Center to help people stay on track. We have verified the results by having people use the site and then placing them in our BodBod and the results are not far off in comparison: http://www.fat2fittools.com. I hope it helps you restart your journey.

    And I don't know how a BodPod can verify 'results' of a blog. A BodPod estimates body fat percent. That blog estimates TDEE, apparently using the outdated Harris Benedict equation.

    And the OP and the people responding all seem to understand the difference between BMR and TDEE.

    The website also offers body fat calculators. So if this person is taking measurements, plugging it in, getting a BF%, and then a similar BF% is given through Bod Pod testing, then it's demonstrating that both methods are valid and reliable if able to get repeated positive results.
  • WalkingAlong
    WalkingAlong Posts: 4,926 Member
    Ah. What does body fat estimation have to do with Kelly's issue?
  • stuart160
    stuart160 Posts: 1,628 Member
    stuart160 wrote: »
    I hate to preach to people or tell them how many calories to eat and think that people should set their own goals using good reliable information. Reading some of the forums and seeing people struggling to stick to calorie restrictions that are below their BMR and starving or stalled in their weight loss goals while people on forums berate and tell them that they are obviously not actually eating those low calories numbers disturbs me because they don't seem to get the difference between BMR and TDEE and the byproduct of eating below your BMR for long periods of time. Rather than tell anyone else what to do here is a site that we use at my Health and Wellness Center to help people stay on track. We have verified the results by having people use the site and then placing them in our BodBod and the results are not far off in comparison: http://www.fat2fittools.com. I hope it helps you restart your journey.

    That site is a blog by some guy who offers no information about who he is or what his qualifications are.

    Who the hell are you that I have to verify who I am? Was I even talking to you? It's extremly clear that you guys DO NOT know the difference between BMR and TDEE or you wouldn't be telling people how many calories to eat without them figuring out for themselves what their BMR is because if TDEE - 20% is below the BMR then they shouldn't go below the BMR, that's probably why her weight loss has stalled. Also berating people for not following your guesses at how many calories they should be eating is not helping them. Oh and by the way, since we perform about 20 Bod Pods a day let me assure you that yes where I work which is a place staffed by professionals rather than people that took an online course that yes you get your BMR and TDEE along with the Body Fat Estimate.
  • WalkingAlong
    WalkingAlong Posts: 4,926 Member
    I wasn't asking who YOU are, unless you are Russ, the guy with the Fat2Fit blog. And I'm pretty sure you're not. You understand how you can't just refer people to somebody's blog who has no authority or credentials and say, "This is the advice you need to follow", right?

    I've asked a hundred people before you but please show us one single authority that suggests eating below BMR is some dangerous thing.

    Or one single thing from this thread that suggests anyone doesn't know BMR from TDEE.

    Or what her body fat estimate has to do with anything at all.
  • Lasmartchika
    Lasmartchika Posts: 3,440 Member
    Uh, if you notice, people are telling the OP to figure out what her TDEE- 15, 10%. Nobody is telling her to stick to -20%, maybe one or two said a specific number of 1200 calories of whom the OP has decided to listen to. SHE had decided, as it should be cuz we can only advice and she has the final decision of her body.
  • fatcity66
    fatcity66 Posts: 1,544 Member
    I can see this thread getting locked soon.
  • kellysdavies
    kellysdavies Posts: 160 Member
    fatcity66 wrote: »
    I can see this thread getting locked soon.

    Good. I am appalled by the ridiculous and childish behaviour of people who I assume are grown adults.
  • kellysdavies
    kellysdavies Posts: 160 Member
    edited November 2014
    Uh, if you notice, people are telling the OP to figure out what her TDEE- 15, 10%. Nobody is telling her to stick to -20%, maybe one or two said a specific number of 1200 calories of whom the OP has decided to listen to. SHE had decided, as it should be cuz we can only advice and she has the final decision of her body.

    I have figured out what my TDEE is. This isn't the issue. Apart from not knowing really which is the best calculator. The issue is that I *think* I am eating at that or even below that and I am not losing weight.

    So either I am eating more than I think and maintaining (in which case changing it m-10 or -15 won't make a difference) or I using an incorrect TDEE. Either way I clearly need to be eating less one way or another to lose the weight.

    And this isn't a two week plateu - it's bent two months of fluctuations between my lowest weight and a few pounds above.

    I want to lose 6lb more - and I know it is not much but that is only my goal. I could say I want to lose 14lb more so then the 'those last few pounds take longer ' message wouldn't be so accurate!
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
    Uh, if you notice, people are telling the OP to figure out what her TDEE- 15, 10%. Nobody is telling her to stick to -20%, maybe one or two said a specific number of 1200 calories of whom the OP has decided to listen to. SHE had decided, as it should be cuz we can only advice and she has the final decision of her body.

    I have figured out what my TDEE is. This isn't the issue. Apart from not knowing really which is the best calculator. The issue is that I *think* I am eating at that or even below that and I am not losing weight.

    So either I am eating more than I think and maintaining (in which case changing it m-10 or -15 won't make a difference) or I using an incorrect TDEE. Either way I clearly need to be eating less one way or another to lose the weight.

    And this isn't a two week plateu - it's bent two months of fluctuations between my lowest weight and a few pounds above.

    I want to lose 6lb more - and I know it is not much but that is only my goal. I could say I want to lose 14lb more so then the last few pounds take longer ' message wouldn't be so accurate!

    Here is the issue. If you are eating AT TDEE then you are eating AT maintenance = No Weight Loss. Your use of the word *think* is the problem, you have to nail it down to *know*. If you were eating say 250 calories less than TDEE, you should be seeing about half a pound a week loss.

    So again, nail down your logging accuracy and you should see results.

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  • BigGuy47
    BigGuy47 Posts: 1,768 Member
    edited November 2014
    Hmmm after 3 pages of analysis the best guess is that logging accuracy is the problem.

    For a quick reference, here's the very first reply in this thread:
    ana3067 wrote: »
    Your tdee is now lower and/or you are loggi.g incorrectly and eating more than you think.
    Of course that was way back on page 1.
  • kellysdavies
    kellysdavies Posts: 160 Member
    BigGuy47 wrote: »
    Hmmm after 3 pages of analysis the best guess is that logging accuracy is the problem.

    For a quick reference, here's the very first reply in this thread:
    ana3067 wrote: »
    Your tdee is now lower and/or you are loggi.g incorrectly and eating more than you think.
    Of course that was way back on page 1.

    go

    Yep. Got the message loud and clear thanks.