I'm finding eating out on weekends very hard to log into MFP

chezzac17
chezzac17 Posts: 98 Member
edited November 2024 in Health and Weight Loss
Hi All,any suggestions please.....I'm finding it hard to stay within my calories when I go out for dinners on the weekend and its hard to log as well as in to estimate ...any help would be great....sometimes I have to eat all my exercise calories back and sometimes a bit more than that ....

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  • SherryTeach
    SherryTeach Posts: 2,836 Member
    When I first started and I was being very strict with myself, I didn't eat out very often. Once I had established my program, I selected restaurants where I could either look up the nutritional information on line or could select foods that were easier to estimate: a steak for instance was fairly easy to estimate. I am more lenient now that I'm well into maintenance, but for me part of the "lifestyle change" was to eat out less often and do more social activities that did not center on food.
  • segacs
    segacs Posts: 4,599 Member
    I have the same issue.

    Most of the advice here tends to be to eat at chain restaurants that provide nutrition info, or to order simple meals like meat and steamed vegetables without sauce or butter, or to skip going out altogether and eat at home.

    None of that really suits my lifestyle. For one thing, virtually zero restaurants where I live provide nutritional information, so that's not really an option. If I wanted just meat n' vegetables, I'd stay home and cook 'em myself. And skipping the meals out would put a serious dent in my enjoyment of life, making this program something I couldn't sustain.

    So my best advice would be to just estimate as best you can. Overestimate rather than underestimate. Look for similar-sounding foods in the database and pick the one that's highest in calories. Add a buffer. If you have a fair idea of what went into a meal, you can try reconstructing it as a recipe and adding ingredients, but remember that a restaurant kitchen is probably adding lots of hidden calories in the form of butter, oil, sauces, etcetera. So quick-add some calories to account for those.

    Add in an extra workout on the days when you eat out, and that should account for any overage. And if you're noticing a weight gain after a few weeks of doing this, it's a sign that your estimate is off.

    I'd also suggest getting good at eyeballing portions by doing lots of weighing and measuring of foods at home, so you know, for instance, what 100g of something looks like visually. Use a reference point like the size of your fingers or fist so you can eyeball better.

    One last trick: If you can, ask the restaurant to wrap up half your food and take it home as a doggie bag. Most portion sizes in restaurants are enormous, so eating half of something will probably be closer to the right size. Then you can take the other half home, weigh it on your food scale, and use it to guesstimate the half you ate.
  • AnthonyThrashD
    AnthonyThrashD Posts: 306 Member
    Hmm, pocket digital scale helps. If I can't log what I'm eating, I weigh it, and note the grams, log it later.

    Eat slower, and BS more, who cares about the food? It's the company that is important.
  • 365andstillalive
    365andstillalive Posts: 663 Member
    edited November 2014
    Eat out less and make smart choices. You could have a side of fries for 700 calories, or you could have a salad with dressing for 100 or so, etc.

    Always look for places where you can look up the nutrition info; likely what you have on your plate won't be a perfect match, but it'll at least give you a general ball park.

    When I eat out, I recognize that I'll likely be going over my desired deficit, so I just strive not to go above maintenance for that day and focus on what I deem to be my most important macro - protein. That being said, I agree with the person above; part of the lifestyle change is learning to make your own food and do activities that are always food-centric. The odd meal out is fine, but it will make your goals easier to be preparing your own food.
  • segacs
    segacs Posts: 4,599 Member
    Maybe it's just me, but I don't think I'd ever feel comfortable taking out a pocket digital scale at a restaurant.

    But hey, if that works for you.
  • chezzac17
    chezzac17 Posts: 98 Member
    thanks everyone I know the thing is moderation and I guess I have to live to ..so maybe one a night a week for dinner and keep within my calories for the day...
    Thanks again .........
  • chezzac17
    chezzac17 Posts: 98 Member
    segacs wrote: »
    I have the same issue.

    Most of the advice here tends to be to eat at chain restaurants that provide nutrition info, or to order simple meals like meat and steamed vegetables without sauce or butter, or to skip going out altogether and eat at home.

    None of that really suits my lifestyle. For one thing, virtually zero restaurants where I live provide nutritional information, so that's not really an option. If I wanted just meat n' vegetables, I'd stay home and cook 'em myself. And skipping the meals out would put a serious dent in my enjoyment of life, making this program something I couldn't sustain.

    So my best advice would be to just estimate as best you can. Overestimate rather than underestimate. Look for similar-sounding foods in the database and pick the one that's highest in calories. Add a buffer. If you have a fair idea of what went into a meal, you can try reconstructing it as a recipe and adding ingredients, but remember that a restaurant kitchen is probably adding lots of hidden calories in the form of butter, oil, sauces, etcetera. So quick-add some calories to account for those.

    Add in an extra workout on the days when you eat out, and that should account for any overage. And if you're noticing a weight gain after a few weeks of doing this, it's a sign that your estimate is off.

    I'd also suggest getting good at eyeballing portions by doing lots of weighing and measuring of foods at home, so you know, for instance, what 100g of something looks like visually. Use a reference point like the size of your fingers or fist so you can eyeball better.

    One last trick: If you can, ask the restaurant to wrap up half your food and take it home as a doggie bag. Most portion sizes in restaurants are enormous, so eating half of something will probably be closer to the right size. Then you can take the other half home, weigh it on your food scale, and use it to guesstimate the half you ate.

    great advice...thank you
  • Zedeff
    Zedeff Posts: 651 Member
    Keep in mind that if you're on a 2 lb per week deficit rate, then you're eating 1000 calories under maintenance. That is, if you overeat to 1000 calories beyond your MFP goals, you shouldn't gain a pound - that's just maintenance.

    Plug your numbers as estimates into MFP, log everything, and as long as you don't go over by more than 1000 calories you should be fine. It won't be a "loss" day but generally you can make it not a "gain" day either.
  • segacs
    segacs Posts: 4,599 Member
    With only 9kg to lose in total, I highly doubt OP is at a 2lb/week deficit.

    For most of us small-ish women, 0.5lbs/week is more like it. And a 250 calorie deficit is *easily* surpassed if you don't track carefully.

    Having said that -- estimate generously, track weight loss, and adjust accordingly. Trial and error. I average about 4-5 meals a week eaten at restaurants or people's houses, and it's not easy but I'm figuring it out as I go along and managing.
  • chezzac17
    chezzac17 Posts: 98 Member
    Zedeff wrote: »
    Keep in mind that if you're on a 2 lb per week deficit rate, then you're eating 1000 calories under maintenance. That is, if you overeat to 1000 calories beyond your MFP goals, you shouldn't gain a pound - that's just maintenance.

    Plug your numbers as estimates into MFP, log everything, and as long as you don't go over by more than 1000 calories you should be fine. It won't be a "loss" day but generally you can make it not a "gain" day either.

    oh really...Im on 1320 calories a day...so if I overeat up to 1000 in a day I am ok..wow..I probably wouldnt go over that amount...thanks
  • chezzac17
    chezzac17 Posts: 98 Member
    segacs wrote: »
    With only 9kg to lose in total, I highly doubt OP is at a 2lb/week deficit.

    For most of us small-ish women, 0.5lbs/week is more like it. And a 250 calorie deficit is *easily* surpassed if you don't track carefully.

    Having said that -- estimate generously, track weight loss, and adjust accordingly. Trial and error. I average about 4-5 meals a week eaten at restaurants or people's houses, and it's not easy but I'm figuring it out as I go along and managing.


    oh damn you are right....so I have to watch eating over 250 calories ? is that right?

    and by the way you are doing great !!!
  • segacs
    segacs Posts: 4,599 Member
    chezzac17 wrote: »
    oh damn you are right....so I have to watch eating over 250 calories ? is that right?

    I'm on 1290 calories/day, which is only about ~300 calories below my estimated maintenance intake. Sounds like at 1320, you're pretty similar in stats to me. So, yeah, you can see how even small variations in intake or underestimating a single slice of bread per day could easily be the difference between losing and gaining weight. The good thing about being small is that we have fewer pounds to lose; the bad thing is that those margins leave very little room for error.

    Best way to build in more of a buffer is to up the exercise, not lower the calories. Add some cardio, some weights, some more movement -- whatever you enjoy doing -- and you can buy yourself some calories to 'eat back' at restaurants.
  • chezzac17
    chezzac17 Posts: 98 Member
    segacs wrote: »
    chezzac17 wrote: »
    oh damn you are right....so I have to watch eating over 250 calories ? is that right?

    I'm on 1290 calories/day, which is only about ~300 calories below my estimated maintenance intake. Sounds like at 1320, you're pretty similar in stats to me. So, yeah, you can see how even small variations in intake or underestimating a single slice of bread per day could easily be the difference between losing and gaining weight. The good thing about being small is that we have fewer pounds to lose; the bad thing is that those margins leave very little room for error.

    Best way to build in more of a buffer is to up the exercise, not lower the calories. Add some cardio, some weights, some more movement -- whatever you enjoy doing -- and you can buy yourself some calories to 'eat back' at restaurants.

    oh your sooo nice thanks for the tips......I see what you mean....and yes seems we are about the same...not fair thiugh we dont have many calories ...lol...........
  • segacs
    segacs Posts: 4,599 Member
    Hey, life ain't fair. But chocolate makes it all better. :)
  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
    Hmm, pocket digital scale helps. If I can't log what I'm eating, I weigh it, and note the grams, log it later.

    Eat slower, and BS more, who cares about the food? It's the company that is important.

    JW, where did you buy a pocket scale? I've thought about getting one but then... I think that'd bepushing my analness lol.
  • chezzac17
    chezzac17 Posts: 98 Member
    segacs wrote: »
    Hey, life ain't fair. But chocolate makes it all better. :)

    haaaaa...sure do
  • _lyndseybrooke_
    _lyndseybrooke_ Posts: 2,561 Member
    I eat out at least twice every weekend. I save calories from the week and just aim to stay below my weekly goal. My daily goal is 1850, so I eat about 1650-1750 M-F and 2000-2500 Sat-Sun. Works out quite nicely.

    As for logging, most restaurants have nutrition info on their website, and usually it's already in the database here on MFP. I pre-log every day so I know what I can eat to stay within my weekly goal. For instance, I know I can have nachos at Salsaritas (like Moe's or Chipotle for those of you that don't have this) for under 800 calories, but Olive Garden will be more like 2000 if I get what I want. I don't order "healthy" items at restaurants. I get what I want and work it into my week. I haven't had a problem yet, and I've reached goal eating this way.

    If you eat at a local restaurant or a restaurant that doesn't have their nutritional info posted online, you just have to estimate. I'd never take a scale with me to a restaurant. I just try to find similar entries in the database and pick one on the higher end of the calorie scale. Piece of cake, so to speak.

    If your goal is 1200 calories per day, it's going to be very hard to fit in restaurant food. Considering 1200 is too little for pretty much everyone, I'd consider raising your calorie goal and living a little.
  • chezzac17
    chezzac17 Posts: 98 Member
    segacs wrote: »
    Hey, life ain't fair. But chocolate makes it all better. :)

    haaaaa...sure does
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    I try to watch my portion size and guess what's in the meals at friend's houses and I log on my phone whilst I'm there - I bulk up on vegetables / salads and if I know something is highly calorific avoid

    I also add a little extra for the doubtless butter / oil / cream that's in stuff

    sometimes I take pots of food to share to friend's - eg for fireworks night a mate did a chilli night and I volunteered to bring a vegetarian version as we have veggie friends and that way I could cook a healthy version and eat it with their rice and cheese
  • chezzac17
    chezzac17 Posts: 98 Member
    thank you rabbitjb..good advice..I do try to guess how much oil and butter are in foods cause I know restaurants load up on that stuff......and yes good idea to bulk up on vegs ..
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    Most bigger places have menus online, pre-log. As you go along, you get really good at guesstimating portion sizes. Log each individual ingredient, and ALWAYS guess up. Use moderation and have fun.
  • chezzac17
    chezzac17 Posts: 98 Member
    I eat out at least twice every weekend. I save calories from the week and just aim to stay below my weekly goal. My daily goal is 1850, so I eat about 1650-1750 M-F and 2000-2500 Sat-Sun. Works out quite nicely.

    As for logging, most restaurants have nutrition info on their website, and usually it's already in the database here on MFP. I pre-log every day so I know what I can eat to stay within my weekly goal. For instance, I know I can have nachos at Salsaritas (like Moe's or Chipotle for those of you that don't have this) for under 800 calories, but Olive Garden will be more like 2000 if I get what I want. I don't order "healthy" items at restaurants. I get what I want and work it into my week. I haven't had a problem yet, and I've reached goal eating this way.

    If you eat at a local restaurant or a restaurant that doesn't have their nutritional info posted online, you just have to estimate. I'd never take a scale with me to a restaurant. I just try to find similar entries in the database and pick one on the higher end of the calorie scale. Piece of cake, so to speak.

    If your goal is 1200 calories per day, it's going to be very hard to fit in restaurant food. Considering 1200 is too little for pretty much everyone, I'd consider raising your calorie goal and living a little.

    thank you also...na I don't think I will take scales out with me...yeah its a bit hard to work out .when eating out ..just have to limit to maybe once a week and do what you suggest saving calories during week for it..good idea.... thanks again.....
  • CarrieCans
    CarrieCans Posts: 381 Member
    All Chain Restaurants are required by law to post nutritional information or have it readily available.

    What most people don't realize is that even small mom and pop restaurants need to comply a bit as well. I worked in a family owned restaurant and we were required to be prepared to provide nutritional information. This meant that we had to be aware of ingredients and quantities when preparing the dishes. We had to have everything necessary to figure it all out if it was requested.

    If you are really having a hard time figuring out your calories or other nutritional info, then just ask an employee for help. I never gave anyone a hard time when they were watching their diet needs. The smaller the restaurant is, the more each employee will know about everything that goes on. Also, small restaurants tend to be more caring about each individual customer and their needs.

    I once had a lady that was on a diet that was fairly strict with certain things. Any time she ordered steak or something similar we weighed it before we cooked it. No big deal. When she ordered things like sausage links, we would adjust her portion (and price) to make it easier for her (not us) and that was still no big deal.

    The best part was that i could make substitutions for people to make the food better for them unlike in a chain restaurant where you have to take what they offer.
  • AskTracyAnnK28
    AskTracyAnnK28 Posts: 2,817 Member
    segacs wrote: »
    Maybe it's just me, but I don't think I'd ever feel comfortable taking out a pocket digital scale at a restaurant.

    But hey, if that works for you.

    I think it would be kinda embarrasing to the company I'm with to bust out a digital scale in a restaurant lololol

    OP - Stick with foods that are grilled if you can. Avoid anything fried, battered, encrusted (within reason). Order a side of veggies instead of french fries, get your salad dressing on the side and stay away from the bread.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    chezzac17 wrote: »
    Hi All,any suggestions please.....I'm finding it hard to stay within my calories when I go out for dinners on the weekend and its hard to log as well as in to estimate ...any help would be great....sometimes I have to eat all my exercise calories back and sometimes a bit more than that ....

    Just one of the many reasons why it is often recommended to eat out less when you're dieting. It's tricky...and restaurant food is not only calorie dense, but usually around 2x or more the recommended serving.

  • KylaDenay
    KylaDenay Posts: 1,585 Member
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    Most bigger places have menus online, pre-log. As you go along, you get really good at guesstimating portion sizes. Log each individual ingredient, and ALWAYS guess up. Use moderation and have fun.
    Someone has it out for you. The constant flagging of your post is ridiculous!

    This was great advice.
  • ithrowconfetti
    ithrowconfetti Posts: 451 Member
    KylaDenay wrote: »
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    Most bigger places have menus online, pre-log. As you go along, you get really good at guesstimating portion sizes. Log each individual ingredient, and ALWAYS guess up. Use moderation and have fun.
    Someone has it out for you. The constant flagging of your post is ridiculous!

    This was great advice.

    Agreed. No idea why comments, which are actually helpful are being flagged.
  • segacs
    segacs Posts: 4,599 Member
    edited November 2014
    Agreed. No idea why comments, which are actually helpful are being flagged.

    I think some people are confusing MFP's flags with Facebook likes? Who knows...

    carriebtz wrote: »
    All Chain Restaurants are required by law to post nutritional information or have it readily available.

    What most people don't realize is that even small mom and pop restaurants need to comply a bit as well.

    That might be true where you live, but it's not true everywhere. Where I live (Quebec) there are no laws requiring nutritional information at all from any restaurant. Some of the larger chain fast food places voluntarily provide it, but that really only applies to a few specific places, most of which I never eat at anyway (like McDonald's and such). The overwhelming majority of restaurants don't list ingredients or nutritional info at all.

    YMMV, in other words.

  • chezzac17
    chezzac17 Posts: 98 Member
    Hi All,thanks for all the comments, not sure what you all mean by "flagging"do you mean me?..
    KylaDenay wrote: »
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    Most bigger places have menus online, pre-log. As you go along, you get really good at guesstimating portion sizes. Log each individual ingredient, and ALWAYS guess up. Use moderation and have fun.
    Someone has it out for you. The constant flagging of your post is ridiculous!

    This was great advice.

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