So I randomly have stopped losing...
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I'm a pretty boring eater and for the most part I think I have logging down. I've lost more than my ticker indicates (used to be 365lbs) so I'm no rookie. I've taken breaks along the way (years of dieting is tiring) but this go around logging and using the TDEE numbers has gotten me from 250 to here. Now nothing. And again, seriously, lower my calories more? 5'11"...229...being told to eat 2100 calories a day. What happened to "you don't have to starve yourself?"Are you accurate in your logging?
2100 is not a bad amount of calories, even at your weight, if you're hungry you mustn't be including enough protein or fibre?
Most of us have been through plateaus, I had several in the few years until I got to maintenance. For me I was only eating around 1300 and it took me increasing mine by a 100 cals each time I stalled. Its about finding the number of cals you can eat at to still lose, for me my perfect number was 1600 plus eating back half my exercise calories.
Your numbers just need tweaking a little as others have already said. Cut by just 100 and see what happens.
Change up your exercise, doing something different and confuse your body and before you know it you will be losing again.
And whatever you do, just keep on going, the scales will start going down if you're eating at deficit
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I'll read up on the diet breaks. It's just hard to say "ok, let's stop losing weight 50lbs from goal" when you're fat. How am I every supposed to get to a point where I can make progress is I can't even get to the weight I need to be?
Look at it from a practical standpoint: A one week break is one week. You've already been stagnant weight-wise and losing lift-wise for a month. Taking a one week break to eat at maintenance isn't going to make the former worse and it could improve the latter, which then could snowball into improving the former. If you have 50 pounds to lose, that one week isn't going to greatly affect your timeline. I've been there (at the 50 pound to lose mark) so I'm not just blowing smoke. You might find that the break ends up being a good tool for you to turn to every few months, just to keep you motivated, which will make the road to 50 pounds easier.0 -
It's very very likely that your issue is one of two things:
1) You are possibly eating more than you think. I do it when I'm logging, and most other people do it to. I find this increasingly prevalent in people who have been losing fat for a while because quite frankly being meticulous with a food scale and logging and weighing EVERYTHING (condiments, little nibbles of food here or there, etc) is fatiguing and it's easy to let small deviations in your habits with respect to logging start to creep into your days/weeks.
These small logging/tracking issues can stack up to a substantial amount of calories. Far more than people care to acknowledge most of the time.
2) You could be tracking accurately and you simply need to reduce calories further.
Most people refuse to admit that #1 is true because they think they couldn't possibly be inaccurate. I'll note that it's not a statement about honesty or integrity in that I'm not accusing you of being dishonest. I'm simply stating that being accurate and meticulous is difficult and it sucks, and we have research showing that people eat much more than they think even under conditions where they are trained in how to track food intake and being monitored.
If you ARE tracking and logging everything and you are still not losing for several weeks, then #2 is the alternative.
As for the "why is my advice different than other peoples" it's not, unless you're only referring to the bad advice that other people get.0 -
It's very very likely that your issue is one of two things:
1) You are possibly eating more than you think. I do it when I'm logging, and most other people do it to. I find this increasingly prevalent in people who have been losing fat for a while because quite frankly being meticulous with a food scale and logging and weighing EVERYTHING (condiments, little nibbles of food here or there, etc) is fatiguing and it's easy to let small deviations in your habits with respect to logging start to creep into your days/weeks.
These small logging/tracking issues can stack up to a substantial amount of calories. Far more than people care to acknowledge most of the time.
2) You could be tracking accurately and you simply need to reduce calories further.
Most people refuse to admit that #1 is true because they think they couldn't possibly be inaccurate. I'll note that it's not a statement about honesty or integrity in that I'm not accusing you of being dishonest. I'm simply stating that being accurate and meticulous is difficult and it sucks, and we have research showing that people eat much more than they think even under conditions where they are trained in how to track food intake and being monitored.
If you ARE tracking and logging everything and you are still not losing for several weeks, then #2 is the alternative.
As for the "why is my advice different than other peoples" it's not, unless you're only referring to the bad advice that other people get.
^Meet Patrick, one of the owners of ETP. Listen to his advice; he really does know what he's talking about.
ETA: Another reason I recommend posting in ETP is that you seem to have two separate issues. You've hit a body weight loss stall and you've hit a wall with your lifts. I think they'd have really good advice on both of those, even though there is the reality of you'll never be able to lift as much on a deficit as you will at maintenance or on a bulk. My guess is they have far better advice and words of wisdom than I do (nevermind the average MFP user).0 -
So, I'm a chick, but I am sort of in the same boat as you. I was 40 something pounds from my original goal weight (which has now been increased, so I now have 27lbs to go to get to my new goal), I'd lost over 60lbs, was majorly stalling on my lifts at the gym, and wasn't losing weight on the scale. It came to a decision: Lose weight OR continue increasing weights in the gym. It kind of seems like you have to pick one at any given time... unfortunately. I decided I wanted to get stronger at the gym (because I think that's way more fun), and the fat loss would either come with time (albeit, very gradually) - or it would stall for a while. I am OK with that.
I was trying to stick to 2200ish a day, (I am 6'2", 216-221lbs depending on what kind of day the scale is having). I wasn't super active in my daily life, and did little/no cardio. I lift 3x a week, and was following Stronglifts. I was eating a few smaller meals throughout the day, but was still hungry (like headaches, hangry, getting dizzy, felt like fainting), so tried having 3 larger meals a day at 750ish+ cals per meal at Sidesteel's suggestion, but I was still hungry and not doing any better in the gym.
3 weeks ago, I stopped Stronglifts, started Madcow, and used a calculator online to calculate calories for a recomp - because I was OK with the scale being stagnant for a while. I ate 2350 calories on rest days and 3400 calories on lifting days. I felt great on lifting days, but felt like I was going to pass out on rest days (yesterday being one of them...). This morning, I readjusted my calories to 3,000 a day (My TDEE calculates similar to yours at 2800-3000 depending on what website I use). I'm going to re-evaluate after January 1 and see how I feel. I'm basing my progress off of progress pictures and progress in the gym. If my scale weight stays the same or even goes up, but I lose another clothing size and can add weight to my lifts, I see that as a win.0 -
Where is this 5'1" 120 lb "chick" who eats over 2000 cals a day and loses weight? Because I want to be her! I'm 5'3" 175 lbs and to lose I can't net over 1400. I work out 5-6 days a week just so I can eat 1600. I'm frustrated as hell because I still have 40+ lbs to go and I'm HUNGRY.
Seriously, I don't know these tiny "chicks" you're talking about, but they must be serious athletes to be able to eat that much. I've lost about 75 lbs and I can say with certainty that the smaller you are, the less you can eat to lose or maintain. Age is also a factor, but you're still young. Maybe your calorie allotment at 300 lbs is too much now that you're smaller. So eat less!0 -
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Wow. Just wow.0
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Not sure if you've seen this table, or what your goal loss per week is, but I see this float around the forums from time to time as a general rule of thumb-
If you have 75+ lbs to lose 2 lbs/week is ideal
If you have 40-75 lbs to lose 1.5 lbs/week is ideal
If you have 25-40 lbs to lose 1 lbs/week is ideal
If you have 15-25 lbs to lose 0.5 to 1.0 lbs/week is ideal
If you have less than 15 lbs to lose 0.5 lbs/week is ideal
Watch the sodium if you aren't already. And you may have hit some kind of plateau. If you have stopped losing for 3+ weeks and you are doing all of the same things, it's time to change it up and push past the plateau. This may require changing your workout routine, and yes, eating less. Weight loss is not linear. Maybe try a heart rate monitor to get an accurate check on how many calories you are truly burning. The fitter you become and the smaller you are, the less calories you will burn and the slower you will lose.
I am not doubting this, but i have seen this posted before on MFP, and was just wondering what the scientific source is. I know it has to do with burning fat VS. muscle, but i would love to see a link.
Thanks
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
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Hmmm, not cool.0
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rofllll now this is humor... i almost ..well i made it to the bathroom
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TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »rofllll now this is humor... i almost ..well i made it to the bathroom
Oh you missed the fun about a hour or two ago....0 -
nope...i was totally entertained. Just gave up posting...because it is the same over and over again. Everybody tells him what to do...he doesn't do it...he makes a new thread 3 weeks later. I think he works in the entertainment business.
So that was why i found this one so funny that it was brought back alive.
DON'T EXPECT OTHER RESULTS, WHEN YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO CHANGE!0 -
TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »nope...i was totally entertained. Just gave up posting...because it is the same over and over again. Everybody tells him what to do...he doesn't do it...he makes a new thread 3 weeks later. I think he works in the entertainment business.
So that was why i found this one so funny that it was brought back alive.
DON'T EXPECT OTHER RESULTS, WHEN YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO CHANGE!
Oh lol. Well, you know what they say, hard heads make soft behinds!
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TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »nope...i was totally entertained. Just gave up posting...because it is the same over and over again. Everybody tells him what to do...he doesn't do it...he makes a new thread 3 weeks later. I think he works in the entertainment business.
So that was why i found this one so funny that it was brought back alive.
DON'T EXPECT OTHER RESULTS, WHEN YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO CHANGE!
Isn't that the definition of insanity?
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Maybe there are pills for that?0
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TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »Maybe there are pills for that?
It's gonna take a hell of a lot more than pills...0 -
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raelynnsmama52512 wrote: »TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »Maybe there are pills for that?
It's gonna take a hell of a lot more than pills...
Everything in moderation,.... remember.
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UltimateRBF wrote: »Hahaha OP has taken NONE of the advice he's been given in the last 6 months
And he's still whining
Dammit who bumped this thread?! It was hilarious and very enlightening.
wasnt me honest..... i was such a good girl. I stayed out of the other thread. Enjoyed it dont get me wrong
But thought nahhhh dont burn you fingers
and then this...sighsss well MFP keeps entertaining me.
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TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »raelynnsmama52512 wrote: »TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »Maybe there are pills for that?
It's gonna take a hell of a lot more than pills...
Everything in moderation,.... remember.
No moderation for OP. Eat a serving of ice cream? Oh, please stahp with the bragging. A slice of pizza? Go eff yourself, kool aid drinker.
Oh wait. We're not the ones crying about not losing and raging at those who do. Someone is jelly.0 -
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