Im sure I dont consume 2000 calories a day?
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Tuna, measures by reading nutritional information on the tin, Mayonnaise was done by a tablespoon. The chips are thin cut, and it said 100g for 153kcal, so weighed 200g for 300 kcal (Was like 20 chips though
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Im not sure but I think maybe your adding needs work as well as your logging
100g = 153kcal ......so 200g would = 306 NOT 300
Yeah I just rounded down, made it easier.
100g of chips is at least 400Kcals and that is if there is no fat in them!
This means your 200g was at least 800Kcals. In your chips alone you are off by 500Kcals!0 -
You actually consume what you eat-- so 1500 or whatever it is. There is a thing with 'net calories' here that is your food intake minus your 'exercise' but it's kind of meaningless outside the context of figuring your MFP deficit. What matters to your body is your total intake (for nutrition purposes and for calorie purposes) and your total calorie burn.golfbrew_matt wrote: »Not sure if it's normal, but I've been doing similar (except burning 600-700 calories a day instead of 900) and I've yet to feel hungry and the weight has been falling off pretty fast.
Yeah its fell of rapidly, but I dont want to be like, starving my body. It just feels weird! As Im told by all the BMR calculators I need 2000kcal a day, so 1500 for a deficit, but after my cardio workout, I only actually consume 600
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you shouldnt round down. this is how ya end up eating more than ya logging.
over estimate calories in and under estimate calories out if you dont have exact counts for them.
if you rounded down 6 calories on everything you ate those non counted cals soon add up, so its not "just knocking of 6 calories" those 6 count too0 -
Lasmartchika wrote: »
Yep... he's under estimating food and over estimating exercise... so yes OP, to answer your question, you're eating 2000 calories or maybe even more... log your food correctly, you'll see.
I maybe over estimating calories, But I dont believe im eating over 2000 Calories, considering I am at 600 Calories after subtracting the cardio exercise. Lets say that it is all incorrect, I should still be in a good deficit.
You asked you're not sure the amount you're consuming is 2000, we're telling you that you are... You say you're burning 900 according to the machine... people already told you the machine exaggerates. So you eat more calories than you thought, and you burn less than what you thought. What answer are you expecting now?0 -
OP means UK chips, which are US French fries, not US chips, which are UK crisps. And he's picking up the calorie count from the packaging.0
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How hungry you feel and the number of calories are unrelated. A more important question is which direction is your weight headed. If it is going up, then you are eating more than maintenance. If it is going down, then you are eating less. With a 1,250 calorie deficit, you're probably losing weight, whether you feel hungry or not.0
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TimothyFish wrote: »How hungry you feel and the number of calories are unrelated. A more important question is which direction is your weight headed. If it is going up, then you are eating more than maintenance. If it is going down, then you are eating less. With a 1,250 calorie deficit, you're probably losing weight, whether you feel hungry or not.
Nah it is going down haha. I think im still in a deficit, defiantly wasnt 800kcals in them chips! @Thepheonixisrising
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I'm not quite sure I buy that this is a representative daily menu, given that you are a 20-year-old man. Do you have higher intake days? What do you eat on the weekends? Do you drink?
If this really is what you're eating, every day, you have a very unusual eating pattern for someone of your age/gender. Are you really sure you have a healthy relationship to food?0 -
I'm not quite sure I buy that this is a representative daily menu, given that you are a 20-year-old man. Do you have higher intake days? What do you eat on the weekends? Do you drink?
If this really is what you're eating, every day, you have a very unusual eating pattern for someone of your age/gender. Are you really sure you have a healthy relationship to food?
Well...this is an average day in terms of meals. I mean, the breakfast is the same. But I sometimes have, chicken breast instead of tuna, maybe A jacket potatoe for lunch. Tea is always different, mostly a lean meat (Today was literally what I found in the fridge first XD) with a potatoe/pasta some sort of carbs and obviously veg or salad.
Weekends are days where I relax myself, go for a drink and have the cheeky takeaway0 -
TimothyFish wrote: »How hungry you feel and the number of calories are unrelated. A more important question is which direction is your weight headed. If it is going up, then you are eating more than maintenance. If it is going down, then you are eating less. With a 1,250 calorie deficit, you're probably losing weight, whether you feel hungry or not.
Nah it is going down haha. I think im still in a deficit, defiantly wasnt 800kcals in them chips! @Thepheonixisrising
That was translation issues. Dry US chips =/= UK chips(fries) because there is a large amount of water weight I wasn't accounting for. Sorry my mistake.0 -
ThePhoenixIsRising wrote: »200g of portage and milk = 200 Kcal????
Your issue is inaccurate logging...
Wait it wasnt 200g sorry, it was 2 sachets of Quaker Oats Porridge at 98Kcal each. They are 27g a pouch now 200g haha. So 60g of porridge.
That doesn't include the milk. The two sachets come to 200kcal, but then with around 160ml of milk per sachet (I have the same sachets and measure my milk every morning, ranges from 150ml to 180ml) - if this was 1% fat milk this would increase that 200kcal guess to 340kcals or so. Pointing out this one remarkably incorrect guesstimate highlights how incredibly wrong about your other calculations you are.
You need to weigh food and measure liquids.
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To me, it looks pretty normal for someone who's lost 100 lbs. in the last year and wants to lose the last 20.I'm not quite sure I buy that this is a representative daily menu, given that you are a 20-year-old man. Do you have higher intake days? What do you eat on the weekends? Do you drink?
If this really is what you're eating, every day, you have a very unusual eating pattern for someone of your age/gender. Are you really sure you have a healthy relationship to food?-2 -
TimothyFish wrote: »How hungry you feel and the number of calories are unrelated. A more important question is which direction is your weight headed. If it is going up, then you are eating more than maintenance. If it is going down, then you are eating less. With a 1,250 calorie deficit, you're probably losing weight, whether you feel hungry or not.
Nah it is going down haha. I think im still in a deficit, defiantly wasnt 800kcals in them chips! @Thepheonixisrising
If the chips (fries) come in a package, what brand are they? Presumably it's easy to check the information. I'm not disputing it, it's just I've never seen fries in a package so am curious, unless you mean frozen and then cooked.
More significantly, the best way to get a sense of whether your deficit is too extreme is to look at results. Over the last couple of months (assuming no drastic change) what has happened with your weight?
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I agree that all your numbers are wrong.
If you've lost 100 lbs and are still losing, then maybe this isn't the time to start worrying about calories. Clearly (no offense) measurement and math aren't your strong point, but you're meeting your goals, so why worry about it? Keep it simple, use whatever method is easiest for you.
If you get in trouble (can't lose the last few pounds, or weight starts going in the wrong direction), come back here for help because you clearly have no idea how much energy is in the foods you're eating. You'll be surprised to find out that the porridge and chips are far more "expensive" than you think.0 -
The minute someone says "I am SURE I dont really eat xxxx cals/day" I am very SURE they do (if not more)0
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caracrawford1 wrote: »The minute someone says "I am SURE I dont really eat xxxx cals/day" I am very SURE they do (if not more)
I am SURE that I don't really eat 2000 calories per day.
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Oh and the other thing when you're weighing things - watch out for cooked vs. frozen vs. raw. If it comes frozen, weight it frozen (meat, fries, veggies - all lose weight when heated). Pasta is dry pasta. Typical packaging contains ~10% more in it than it says so they don't get in trouble by people noticing they're getting less than they pay for. Watch for serving size (though I think you do) eg. most cans of tuna say for a half can or 60 g drained. Sometimes 60g is not the same as 1/2 a can.0
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MagicalGiraffe wrote: »ThePhoenixIsRising wrote: »200g of portage and milk = 200 Kcal????
Your issue is inaccurate logging...
Wait it wasnt 200g sorry, it was 2 sachets of Quaker Oats Porridge at 98Kcal each. They are 27g a pouch now 200g haha. So 60g of porridge.
That doesn't include the milk. The two sachets come to 200kcal, but then with around 160ml of milk per sachet (I have the same sachets and measure my milk every morning, ranges from 150ml to 180ml) - if this was 1% fat milk this would increase that 200kcal guess to 340kcals or so. Pointing out this one remarkably incorrect guesstimate highlights how incredibly wrong about your other calculations you are.
You need to weigh food and measure liquids.
Nah thats fair enough.lemurcat12 wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »How hungry you feel and the number of calories are unrelated. A more important question is which direction is your weight headed. If it is going up, then you are eating more than maintenance. If it is going down, then you are eating less. With a 1,250 calorie deficit, you're probably losing weight, whether you feel hungry or not.
Nah it is going down haha. I think im still in a deficit, defiantly wasnt 800kcals in them chips! @Thepheonixisrising
If the chips (fries) come in a package, what brand are they? Presumably it's easy to check the information. I'm not disputing it, it's just I've never seen fries in a package so am curious, unless you mean frozen and then cooked.
More significantly, the best way to get a sense of whether your deficit is too extreme is to look at results. Over the last couple of months (assuming no drastic change) what has happened with your weight?
They are frozen chips, Julienne (French Fries) From where I used to work, there from Makro Wholesalers and branded Chefs Larder. It said like 160kcal per 100g measured 200g worth for 320kcal.caracrawford1 wrote: »The minute someone says "I am SURE I dont really eat xxxx cals/day" I am very SURE they do (if not more)
Yeah I have miscalculated, I never really took much notice to it when I lost my weight in honesty, I knew what was right and what wasnt. But I just was curious to how many calories I was now consuming and used the labels and nutrional information provided to guide me.
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BMR is not the baseline for calculating a deficit ... RMR is.0
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They are frozen chips, Julienne (French Fries) From where I used to work, there from Makro Wholesalers and branded Chefs Larder. It said like 160kcal per 100g measured 200g worth for 320kcal.
Okay, that seems perfectly plausible.
What about the other question--are you losing at a rate consistent with eating that low? (Not that I think eating that low, if you are, is advisable.)
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lemurcat12 wrote: »They are frozen chips, Julienne (French Fries) From where I used to work, there from Makro Wholesalers and branded Chefs Larder. It said like 160kcal per 100g measured 200g worth for 320kcal.
Okay, that seems perfectly plausible.
What about the other question--are you losing at a rate consistent with eating that low? (Not that I think eating that low, if you are, is advisable.)
I am losing I believe, I kinda went from 20st to 13st then back up to 13st 13 last few months. However I got back on it this week and went down to 13st 7 first week, so, as I am unsure what weight I was when I started (definately 13st 10+) I dunno how much I lost but defiantly dropped abit of weight.0 -
Ok straight away I am going to say I was incredibly wrong. Just tracked my Macros for my breakfast, I estimated 200kcal for the Oatmeal and banana, correctly calculated it was 450! Mad how much you actually underestimate calories in food!0
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Ok straight away I am going to say I was incredibly wrong. Just tracked my Macros for my breakfast, I estimated 200kcal for the Oatmeal and banana, correctly calculated it was 450! Mad how much you actually underestimate calories in food!
It is eye opening! Keep up the logging and adjust as you need to to reach your goals and you will be just fine!0 -
MagicalGiraffe wrote: »ThePhoenixIsRising wrote: »200g of portage and milk = 200 Kcal????
Your issue is inaccurate logging...
Wait it wasnt 200g sorry, it was 2 sachets of Quaker Oats Porridge at 98Kcal each. They are 27g a pouch now 200g haha. So 60g of porridge.
That doesn't include the milk. The two sachets come to 200kcal, but then with around 160ml of milk per sachet (I have the same sachets and measure my milk every morning, ranges from 150ml to 180ml) - if this was 1% fat milk this would increase that 200kcal guess to 340kcals or so. Pointing out this one remarkably incorrect guesstimate highlights how incredibly wrong about your other calculations you are.
You need to weigh food and measure liquids.
maybe he makes it with water? I do0 -
If you're not accurately measuring your food on a food scale, picking correct entries in the database, or using quick calories to guess then you're eating more than you think. You could also be overestimating your calorie burns through exercise if you're not using a HRM.
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A HRM is NOT the magical tool that people think it is. If it were, then we could solve all our problems by exercising when it is 105°, instead of when it is 70°.0
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It's clear that there's issues with the accuracy of you guesses (MFP definitely over estimates calorie burn).
I for one don't think that really matters a heck of a lot if you're seeing results!!!
If you're not hungry or super tired then keep at what you're doing until you stop seeing results then try to tweak from there 0 -
RebelDiamond wrote: »It's clear that there's issues with the accuracy of you guesses (MFP definitely over estimates calorie burn).
I for one don't think that really matters a heck of a lot if you're seeing results!!!
If you're not hungry or super tired then keep at what you're doing until you stop seeing results then try to tweak from there
By that I mean, if you're seeing results, don't worry, be happy 0 -
The issue of accuracy with logging has been fully addressed I'd say.
As you have lost a lot of weight you may have a slightly lower metabolic rate so even with the not 100% accurate logging your intake may be lower than what calculators say you should be eating to maintain.
The big issue I see if no mention of any resistance training. You are a t a very healthy weight for your height already. I'd drop (or reduce) cardio and replace with resistance training. The cal burn is less (which is a good thing for you) and the benefits are obvious.0
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