body type
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tincanonastring wrote: »mustgetmuscles1 wrote: »Body type: human, male
Negative, you are a meat popsicle.
Who the hell flags something like this?
Some who's jealous, I'd guess.0 -
I think there is something to "frame size" but calculating it is in-exact. I have small wrists(5.75" non-dominant hand, slightly under 6" dominant hand), small hands ("small" size glove), and small feet (size 6.5) and am 66 inches tall - I think that my frame size is "small." But that being said, I don't really know what difference it makes.0
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tincanonastring wrote: »mustgetmuscles1 wrote: »Body type: human, male
Negative, you are a meat popsicle.
Who the hell flags something like this?
People who are also meat popsicles but who do not wish to be.
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I'm assuming they thought it was some kind of insult. But who knows. Some people will flag anything. Lis at the top of this page was flagged for congratulating someone on their weight loss, lol.tincanonastring wrote: »mustgetmuscles1 wrote: »Body type: human, male
Negative, you are a meat popsicle.
Who the hell flags something like this?
OP, I'm not sure I understand the question. Do I believe some people have bigger bones than others? Absolutely. I know it.
Do I think any single number (BMI, waist circumference, etc.) tells the whole story? No.
My friend is <1cm taller than me. She has a wide frame and her waist is bigger than mine. She is in better shape than I am, though. Not great shape, lol, but she's better off than I am.
So many things factor in. If you could do your own health exams by using google, they could shut down the medical schools.
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The point is, none of these things really have a major bearing on weight loss.
The things that matter are weight and, more importantly, body fat percentage.
We will all be different shapes and sizes when all is said and done. Even if I lose the fat and get to a lean, fit, low bf% of myself, I'll still be short (5'1") and my hip bones will still be wider than my shoulder bones. I'll still have a small head, tiny (5") wrists, and short fingers. I'll still have to hem sleeves and pant legs on everything I buy.
So, okay, that's me. That's my frame. Big whoop-de-do. Is it an excuse not to lose the weight? Heck no!0 -
DeirdreWoodwardSanders wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »For overweight people, differences in bone size are an insignificant percentage of their total mass.
Bones are not a static entity -- they grow when you get bigger and they shrink when you get smaller. They make up around 15% of your body mass, regardless of your size.
In other words, someone who weights 150 pounds has around 22 pounds of bone mass. If this same person gained 100 pounds, they would then have around 38 pounds in bone mass, not 22.
The weight gain is in muscle, fat, and bone (and probably veins, tendons, and all the other stuff that we are made of).
Bones are constantly growing and dying. This is why calcium is so important throughout our lives, not just as little kids.
So you're saying a 500 lb. man has 75 lbs of bone. I kinda doubt that, but the fact that we gain or lose bone as the need increases or decreases shouldn't have a significant impact on the size of the bones at the wrist, since they do not carry a significant portion of the excess weight.0 -
TimothyFish wrote: »DeirdreWoodwardSanders wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »For overweight people, differences in bone size are an insignificant percentage of their total mass.
Bones are not a static entity -- they grow when you get bigger and they shrink when you get smaller. They make up around 15% of your body mass, regardless of your size.
In other words, someone who weights 150 pounds has around 22 pounds of bone mass. If this same person gained 100 pounds, they would then have around 38 pounds in bone mass, not 22.
The weight gain is in muscle, fat, and bone (and probably veins, tendons, and all the other stuff that we are made of).
Bones are constantly growing and dying. This is why calcium is so important throughout our lives, not just as little kids.
So you're saying a 500 lb. man has 75 lbs of bone. I kinda doubt that, but the fact that we gain or lose bone as the need increases or decreases shouldn't have a significant impact on the size of the bones at the wrist, since they do not carry a significant portion of the excess weight.
It's true. The human skeleton is roughly 15-20% of total body weight. Most of a person's weight is actually water.0 -
tincanonastring wrote: »mustgetmuscles1 wrote: »Body type: human, male
Negative, you are a meat popsicle.
Who the hell flags something like this?
Never question the flags... it's coming for you next... run away...-1 -
tincanonastring wrote: »mustgetmuscles1 wrote: »Body type: human, male
Negative, you are a meat popsicle.
Who the hell flags something like this?
Wasnt me. I have doing my best to become a meat popsicle and was flattered someone noticed.
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No.
Our bone density and muscle mass decreases with age. Plus, some people do experience bone loss when they lose weight, mostly because they don't consume enough calcium. That can put many people, especially women after menopause, at increased risk of osteoporosis. Which is why it's so important to focus on getting enough calcium even during weight loss.
The rest of what you quote is untrue. The average man has about 15% of his mass from bone (and the average woman 12%, due to higher average percentage of body fat for women). But your bones don't magically grow and shrink to adjust to weight loss or gain. Most people stop growing around age 18-21, and bones typically achieve maximum density by age 30 or so, after which they start losing bone density.
This MFP tradition of starting a post with "No" when you disagree is very offputting. I'm not your dog.
That said, you are right -- it's not like you become taller if you get heavier. I misunderstood something I read to mean "our bones get bigger when we get heavier" instead of "our bones get stronger when we get heavier" and broscienced that to the 15% average.
My point was that our bones are not static, but are in a state of flux all the time.
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mustgetmuscles1 wrote: »Body type: human, male
Negative, you are a meat popsicle.
I love that movie!0 -
mustgetmuscles1 wrote: »Body type: human, male
Negative, you are a meat popsicle.
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Love this movie
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tigersword wrote: »The human skeleton is roughly 15-20% of total body weight. Most of a person's weight is actually water.
My wrist measures 7". My height is 6'4".
You are Male with a height of 6' 4" and a wrist circumference of 7 inches. You are considered to have a small frame.
Frame size has been a factor used in the past to determine the ideal healthy weight for a person. However, specialists now recommend using a combination of Body Mass Index (BMI), Body Fat and Lean Body Mass to figure an individual’s ideal healthy weight. Calculators for each of these are available on this site.
Okay, BMI from today...
Still wondering what to call my body type if ectomorph is off limits due to it being BroScience - or BS...
What is the politically correct term that won't offend?
Waist: 31"-32"
Inseam: 36"
Chest: 40 (tapered in at sides)
Arm length: 35" shirt sleeve length
Height: 6'4"
Weight: 168 give or take DOMS
Age: 53
Weight at age 25: 1650 -
We just called it skinny. Never offended me.0
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You're a human being. "Body types" are mostly mythical differences between people.
And ectomorph isn't "off limits," it just isn't a real thing. A guy took a bunch of pictures of naked college kids (under a false pretense,) sorted them based on superficial appearance similarities, then made up terms for them. There was zero science behind it. Scientists discredited the entire concept decades ago.0 -
Well, I think it's worth noting that some recent publications of journals do actually recognize somatotypes http://journals.lww.com/nsca-jscr/Abstract/2012/07000/Physical_Fitness_Differences_Between_Prepubescent.4.aspx
Also, even in removing somatotypes from the equation, I do think there are certain physical traits that can help define body types. For instance, almost everyone I know who has long legs in proportion to height also happens to be naturally slender.-1 -
tigersword wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »DeirdreWoodwardSanders wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »For overweight people, differences in bone size are an insignificant percentage of their total mass.
Bones are not a static entity -- they grow when you get bigger and they shrink when you get smaller. They make up around 15% of your body mass, regardless of your size.
In other words, someone who weights 150 pounds has around 22 pounds of bone mass. If this same person gained 100 pounds, they would then have around 38 pounds in bone mass, not 22.
The weight gain is in muscle, fat, and bone (and probably veins, tendons, and all the other stuff that we are made of).
Bones are constantly growing and dying. This is why calcium is so important throughout our lives, not just as little kids.
So you're saying a 500 lb. man has 75 lbs of bone. I kinda doubt that, but the fact that we gain or lose bone as the need increases or decreases shouldn't have a significant impact on the size of the bones at the wrist, since they do not carry a significant portion of the excess weight.
It's true. The human skeleton is roughly 15-20% of total body weight. Most of a person's weight is actually water.
Weight yes. (At least for a person of normal weight.) But we aren't talking about weight. We're talking about volume. I'm sure we've all had watches that were loose when we were thin and tight when we were fat, but I don't know of anyone who had bones that were twice as big around when they were 300 lbs than what they were at 150.0 -
TimothyFish wrote: »tigersword wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »DeirdreWoodwardSanders wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »For overweight people, differences in bone size are an insignificant percentage of their total mass.
Bones are not a static entity -- they grow when you get bigger and they shrink when you get smaller. They make up around 15% of your body mass, regardless of your size.
In other words, someone who weights 150 pounds has around 22 pounds of bone mass. If this same person gained 100 pounds, they would then have around 38 pounds in bone mass, not 22.
The weight gain is in muscle, fat, and bone (and probably veins, tendons, and all the other stuff that we are made of).
Bones are constantly growing and dying. This is why calcium is so important throughout our lives, not just as little kids.
So you're saying a 500 lb. man has 75 lbs of bone. I kinda doubt that, but the fact that we gain or lose bone as the need increases or decreases shouldn't have a significant impact on the size of the bones at the wrist, since they do not carry a significant portion of the excess weight.
It's true. The human skeleton is roughly 15-20% of total body weight. Most of a person's weight is actually water.
Weight yes. (At least for a person of normal weight.) But we aren't talking about weight. We're talking about volume. I'm sure we've all had watches that were loose when we were thin and tight when we were fat, but I don't know of anyone who had bones that were twice as big around when they were 300 lbs than what they were at 150.
Exactly. That's why I put very little stock in "frame size." Many people (that are overweight) think they have a large frame size because they measure themselves when overweight. This causes them to set a "goal" way above where they really should.0 -
I have a wide back. As a female, I have always been self conscious of it. I admire the thinner upper body appearance. But in my case, I'd have to remove ribs to get to that look no matter how thin I become.0
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