Medically Supervised Diet
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I can only give it a try. If I fail, I fail; not any worse off than before. I'm not planning on losing hundreds of pounds or anything like that. I am only hoping to lose about 50 pounds. I had my body fat measured at the doctor and it was something like 27%, which leaves me at a little over 200 pounds lbm including fluids and other non-fat substances. I would like to achieve this in 6-8 months if possible.0
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I can only give it a try. If I fail, I fail; not any worse off than before. I'm not planning on losing hundreds of pounds or anything like that. I am only hoping to lose about 50 pounds. I had my body fat measured at the doctor and it was something like 27%, which leaves me at a little over 200 pounds lbm including fluids and other non-fat substances. I would like to achieve this in 6-8 months if possible.
Why not try properly logging first instead (as in actually using the advice you've been given about logging int he past which you seem to have completely ignored each time), and thus saving yourself money while not starving yourself?
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Because weight loss has to be very fast and not require mental effort from the dieter, duh! Otherwise it never works0
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Why would people advise against a medically supervised diet?
Seriously?
You're not his primary physician and you've never met him
Personally I think it's a great idea HOWEVER I think when you transition from this diet to normal eating you need to weigh and log everything you consume accurately otherwise it will be another short-term fail - you still need to learn about eating within your calories, portion sizes, good choices of foods for you and how to incorporate treats and foods you love and a social life in your diet
good luck for the next 12 weeks, don't forget the transition counts too0 -
People have the right to try and fail in their own way. In this case, this user will need a little more exploration of what does and does not work.I can only give it a try. If I fail, I fail; not any worse off than before. I'm not planning on losing hundreds of pounds or anything like that. I am only hoping to lose about 50 pounds. I had my body fat measured at the doctor and it was something like 27%, which leaves me at a little over 200 pounds lbm including fluids and other non-fat substances. I would like to achieve this in 6-8 months if possible.
Why not try properly logging first instead (as in actually using the advice you've been given about logging int he past which you seem to have completely ignored each time), and thus saving yourself money while not starving yourself?
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You've posted a few times about plateauing. And in each case we told you that your logging is pretty crap. So really, I don't think you need to go this route: you simply need to log properly.
1) using generic recipes (e.g. "homemade sandwich")
2) not weighing your food or even measuring a lot of it
3) you don't even bother eating to your allotted goal, ever. and overall your intake is inconsistent every day, so how can you know whether your goal is too high/low?
4) The entries you use aren't even all correct. A 200 calorie homemade turkey sandwich does not have 0g of carbs.
ETA: since your first post about plateaus at least a few months ago, none of your logging habits have changed. So... you'd rather subject yourself to eating not at all enough calories and probably be starving than simply log properly and be consistent with intake and monitor progress that way?
QFT. OP, if you decide to go through with this diet, do think about your long-term plan, because you'd be accountable for your own meals and lifestyle in the future. Good luck.0 -
People have the right to try and fail in their own way. In this case, this user will need a little more exploration of what does and does not work.I can only give it a try. If I fail, I fail; not any worse off than before. I'm not planning on losing hundreds of pounds or anything like that. I am only hoping to lose about 50 pounds. I had my body fat measured at the doctor and it was something like 27%, which leaves me at a little over 200 pounds lbm including fluids and other non-fat substances. I would like to achieve this in 6-8 months if possible.
Why not try properly logging first instead (as in actually using the advice you've been given about logging int he past which you seem to have completely ignored each time), and thus saving yourself money while not starving yourself?
My concern here is just that.. he really HASN'T tried all that much. He's posted here frequently asking for help but then completely ignored the given advice, which likely would have helped him figure out how to change his calorie goal and thus would have helped him lose weight.
Clearly nothing wrong with doing this 1200-diet thing in the short term, but based on OP's past I just feel like it really won't do him much good in the long-run, kwim?0 -
People have the right to try and fail in their own way. In this case, this user will need a little more exploration of what does and does not work.I can only give it a try. If I fail, I fail; not any worse off than before. I'm not planning on losing hundreds of pounds or anything like that. I am only hoping to lose about 50 pounds. I had my body fat measured at the doctor and it was something like 27%, which leaves me at a little over 200 pounds lbm including fluids and other non-fat substances. I would like to achieve this in 6-8 months if possible.
Why not try properly logging first instead (as in actually using the advice you've been given about logging int he past which you seem to have completely ignored each time), and thus saving yourself money while not starving yourself?
My concern here is just that.. he really HASN'T tried all that much. He's posted here frequently asking for help but then completely ignored the given advice, which likely would have helped him figure out how to change his calorie goal and thus would have helped him lose weight.
Clearly nothing wrong with doing this 1200-diet thing in the short term, but based on OP's past I just feel like it really won't do him much good in the long-run, kwim?
Lady, is he your kin?1 -
I tried and failed and tried and failed many times before I "got it," and I still haven't "got it" all the time. If I may offer a word of advice...develop a relationship with a therapist or who specializes in eating issues or a nutritionist who understands emotional eating. Read The Beck Diet Solution and do the exercises in the workbook. Otherwise, when you get off this medically supervised diet you won't have the mental and emotional tools to change your eating behavior on your own and you'll go back to your old ways. You seriously don't want to do that -- it's demoralizing, not to mention the toll it will take on your body. Work on your head while the medically supervised diet works on your body.0
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0somuchbetter0 wrote: »I tried and failed and tried and failed many times before I "got it," and I still haven't "got it" all the time. If I may offer a word of advice...develop a relationship with a therapist or who specializes in eating issues or a nutritionist who understands emotional eating. Read The Beck Diet Solution and do the exercises in the workbook. Otherwise, when you get off this medically supervised diet you won't have the mental and emotional tools to change your eating behavior on your own and you'll back to your old ways. You seriously don't want to do that -- it's demoralizing, not to mention the toll it will take on your body. Work on your head while the medically supervised diet works on your body.
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I am on a similar diet, albeit at 1300 calories/day. I have lost 40 pounds in 3 months. In the next few weeks, I will be transitioning off it to a more traditional calorie deficit plan (I,.e., drop the meal replacements and eat at about 1800 calories). It was the right decision for me. I understand the theoretical objections to meal replacement plans (are you going to eat that way for the rest of your life?; etc.), but for me, it taught me that I can function quite well at 1300 well-chosen calories and gave me tremendous positive reinforcement. After 1300 calories, 1800 disciplined calories should be easy and I am content to slow down my rate of loss, as I've still got a way to go.0
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You've posted a few times about plateauing. And in each case we told you that your logging is pretty crap. So really, I don't think you need to go this route: you simply need to log properly.
Sorry hadnt realised hes been on before. I wasnt looking closely enough at his diary, but there was a mismatch of logging 2000 calories, when his maintenance is 3000 and not losing. Yep his logging is rybbish or he just isnt logging everything. It would be better if he just did it the normal way, but whats coming across is that he is incapable of logging accurately, hence I dont think the supervised diet is a bad thing. makes me concerned what he might do after the diet and returns to real life though.
As everyone points out then its very probable that he will just pile it straight back on as soon as he comes off the diet and the advice as to get some therapy to change his mindset is good.
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A - I'd find doctors who are more concerned about your health and are interested in helping you find a way to lose weight.
B - The problem with any "diet" is when you stop dieting! If you decide to go through with this then you need to start setting yourself up for making correct food choices once you stop eating the bars and shakes and such. A true lifestyle change is the only way to be happy and have long-lasting results for the majority of people.
C - If you are going to follow a physician's diet then I would listen to just the physician, avoid posting on online forums with self-proclaimed fitness and nutrition gurus
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Best of luck to you!0 -
I can only give it a try. If I fail, I fail; not any worse off than before. I'm not planning on losing hundreds of pounds or anything like that. I am only hoping to lose about 50 pounds. I had my body fat measured at the doctor and it was something like 27%, which leaves me at a little over 200 pounds lbm including fluids and other non-fat substances. I would like to achieve this in 6-8 months if possible.
It might behoove you to get rid of "If I fail" from your mindset. Sure, diet is mostly cutting back on calories and sticking to it, but attitude and mindset and pure willpower is a whole lot of the battle as well.
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Not getting why you think the Dr isnt concerned about him losing weight? I get the feeling the Dr is concerned about his weight but also listens to the OP at his lack of success. The weaker link in the weight loss plan is the inability of the OP to control his calories. Makes it a really importnat suggestion what 0somuchbetter0 said about making use of the therapist. We can all see the battle will just be beginning when hes off the diet and has to make his own way.0
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After having lost a significant amount of lean body mass, compounding the magnitude of the problem.As everyone points out then its very probable that he will just pile it straight back on as soon as he comes off the diet and the advice as to get some therapy to change his mindset is good.
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I agree with ana3067. I have seen his posts also and his diary.
OP you need to fix your loggings first otherwise with this low diet plan, you will more then likely fail.
Good luck on whatever choice you make.0 -
Behavior modification ... that's what everyone is talking about when they caution you to have a plan for when you come off the 8-week supervised diet.
good luck, I hope it does the trick for you ... 8 weeks is not very long, but it may be the most advantageous amount of time at the low calories, with a break of more moderate cut in between for a period of time and then another go-round.0 -
I've been under the supervision of a nutritionist for the past year. I wish I could continue but they are changing my insurance and it will no longer be covered. I think medical supervision is good so they can teach you sound habits to practice and get them learned so you can keep them up on your own later.
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Oh... if yr hypoglycemic like me, get some glucose tabs and keep them on you. When you feel that shaky feeling coming on, eat 2 tabs.0
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