Eat during an 8 hour time span and not after 4 pm
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Satchin Panda, an associate professor in the Regulatory Biology Laboratory, is interested in understanding the molecular mechanism of the biological clock in a mouse model system. The biological clock or circadian oscillator in most organisms coordinates behavior and physiology with the natural light-dark cycle. His laboratory uses genetic, genomics and biochemical approaches to identify genes under circadian regulation in different organs and to understand the mechanism of such regulation. His lab also tries to characterize the mechanism by which the circadian oscillator is synchronized to the natural light-dark condition. Both classical rod/cone photoreceptors and a newly identified ocular photopigment melanopsin participate in photoentrainment of the clock. Research in his lab is geared towards identifying molecular components and events critical for transmitting light information from the eye to the master oscillator in the brain.
I'm going to be honest here, I space out after reading about 6 words in this guy's research summary. I've also never heard about 70% of the words in that paragraph...
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Nevermind eating, the article makes me want to have a drink of booze.0
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His name is Satchin Panda. What more do you need to know?0
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One reason the link is confusing is because they talk about a 9-12 hour window AND about not eating during normal sleep hours. I don't know about you, but I don't get to sleep for 12-15 hours a day. This inspired me to look it up: mice sleep about 13 hours a day. It also suggests that our ancestors (they are referenced somewhere in there) would have eaten during daylight hours and not nighttime hours, but this wasn't really true, especially in the winter months when you only had a few hours of daylight to get stuff done (at least for farmers, which is what my ancestors did for at least the last couple of centuries).
So, the historical bit seems a bit suspect and mice to people studies always require translation.
All that being said, night shifts seem to have a big effect on weight gain and insufficient studies have been done on why: perhaps without proper exposure to daylight, there are subtle changes to the metabolism?0 -
I wonder why these researchers are putting so much time and effort into these minimally effective ways to lose weight when CICO works.
It's almost as if they say "Although feet are at the end of your legs, I'm gonna go ahead and create an entire career based on finding feet on the end of your arms."
What's the payoff for them? That's what I'm wondering.0 -
DeirdreWoodwardSanders wrote: »I wonder why these researchers are putting so much time and effort into these minimally effective ways to lose weight when CICO works.
It's almost as if they say "Although feet are at the end of your legs, I'm gonna go ahead and create an entire career based on finding feet on the end of your arms."
What's the payoff for them? That's what I'm wondering.
CICO works, yes. But if it were as simple as telling people to eat less than they burned we wouldn't have the obesity rates we do. That's why it's studied.0 -
The Salk Institute is an independent non-profit research institute. Their funding comes from the March of Dimes, the National Institute of Health, the Howard Hughes Medical Institute, pharmaceutical companies, among others. Whether they were paid to conduct this specific study, or it came out as a result of other studies, we don't know.
Edit: If you look at the list of his publications and papers here, you see that they have a broader impact than just weight loss:
http://www.salk.edu/faculty/panda.html0 -
Well that must be what my problem is, my circadian oscillator has a loose clockspring !0
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I'm not entirely sure how you use mice as a model for circadian rhythm since they typically are awake at night and sleep during the day. I guess I need to read the full article...0
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Well, the news article you linked doesn't really explain the study at all and makes some weird statements. Off to pubmed...0
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And never mind. It's a review paper that cites review papers, and it's far to difficult to actually find the data he's drawing his conclusions from except for generalities (most of which say that eating less can improve your health; duh).0
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RibStabsHeart wrote: »His name is Satchin Panda. What more do you need to know?
Is it bad that my main reaction was to be jealous that I never got to study under a Professor Panda. Or is Dr. Panda a better title?0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »DeirdreWoodwardSanders wrote: »I wonder why these researchers are putting so much time and effort into these minimally effective ways to lose weight when CICO works.
It's almost as if they say "Although feet are at the end of your legs, I'm gonna go ahead and create an entire career based on finding feet on the end of your arms."
What's the payoff for them? That's what I'm wondering.
CICO works, yes. But if it were as simple as telling people to eat less than they burned we wouldn't have the obesity rates we do. That's why it's studied.
This.
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »DeirdreWoodwardSanders wrote: »I wonder why these researchers are putting so much time and effort into these minimally effective ways to lose weight when CICO works.
It's almost as if they say "Although feet are at the end of your legs, I'm gonna go ahead and create an entire career based on finding feet on the end of your arms."
What's the payoff for them? That's what I'm wondering.
CICO works, yes. But if it were as simple as telling people to eat less than they burned we wouldn't have the obesity rates we do. That's why it's studied.
This +1 diet and obesity are big business and of worldwide importance.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »DeirdreWoodwardSanders wrote: »I wonder why these researchers are putting so much time and effort into these minimally effective ways to lose weight when CICO works.
It's almost as if they say "Although feet are at the end of your legs, I'm gonna go ahead and create an entire career based on finding feet on the end of your arms."
What's the payoff for them? That's what I'm wondering.
CICO works, yes. But if it were as simple as telling people to eat less than they burned we wouldn't have the obesity rates we do. That's why it's studied.
Not to mention that that yes, CICO works, but so did the steam engine. That doesn't mean people should not have researched electricity.
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I stopped reading here: Although the findings have not yet been duplicated in humans.
OP WHAT is the POINT of your post?0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »RibStabsHeart wrote: »His name is Satchin Panda. What more do you need to know?
Is it bad that my main reaction was to be jealous that I never got to study under a Professor Panda. Or is Dr. Panda a better title?
My husband worked for a Dr. Seuss once...0 -
Liftng4Lis wrote: »I stopped reading here: Although the findings have not yet been duplicated in humans.
OP WHAT is the POINT of your post?
we're all mice0 -
Liftng4Lis wrote: »I stopped reading here: Although the findings have not yet been duplicated in humans.
OP WHAT is the POINT of your post?
From my first post:
"What I don't understand is why anyone is researching these arcane and minimally helpful diet tips when CICO is obviously the answer."
and from my second post:
"I wonder why these researchers are putting so much time and effort into these minimally effective ways to lose weight when CICO works."
I don't give a *kitten* about the study. It popped up on the Daily Mail and my morning DJs were talking about it, and I thought, here we go again, another research study pointing to some arcane way to lose weight that will be minimally effective for a narrow range of people.
Then I thought, why are they doing this? Why are people with 12+ years of university education -- presumably at least as educated as the people on the internets -- looking for a smoking gun when they already know that CICO is the smoking gun?
Perhaps the answer is that these scientists are simply conducting research into little understood processes of the body, and the media seizes the research and turns it into miracle diet news.
Dunno.
eta: Also, Dr. Panda FTW. I wish he were a GP. I would totally go to him.
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