do suppliments work?
RoseyDgirl
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As I get older, I seem to be taking more and more pills.
First it was a multivitamin. then came the anti-oxidant blend of A, C and E. then was added a B-12 complex. then, calcium chews and D-3.
Now, I've added CoQ10, PQQ, Omega-3, EFA (a different blend of omega 3?), a separate vitamin E, a Probiotic, a Glutathione Pre-cursor, a pepper suppliment, Turmeric, Resveritrol, Cinnamon and a grassfed whey powder ...
half the pills in the morning
and the rest of the Pills and whey shake around dinnertime.
I feel good, but is it delusional that suppliments work? 20 odd pills a day where I used to only take 2. And, goodness only knows how I'd tell if they really were working.
Are suppliments a fountain of youth? Regenerate the mitochondria. prevents inflammation. aids digestion. Helps regain focused thinking... or is it all hype?
First it was a multivitamin. then came the anti-oxidant blend of A, C and E. then was added a B-12 complex. then, calcium chews and D-3.
Now, I've added CoQ10, PQQ, Omega-3, EFA (a different blend of omega 3?), a separate vitamin E, a Probiotic, a Glutathione Pre-cursor, a pepper suppliment, Turmeric, Resveritrol, Cinnamon and a grassfed whey powder ...
half the pills in the morning
and the rest of the Pills and whey shake around dinnertime.
I feel good, but is it delusional that suppliments work? 20 odd pills a day where I used to only take 2. And, goodness only knows how I'd tell if they really were working.
Are suppliments a fountain of youth? Regenerate the mitochondria. prevents inflammation. aids digestion. Helps regain focused thinking... or is it all hype?
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In my opinion based on my own supplement usage it's all a bunch of hoopla. The only supplements that I think even do anything are fish oil, biotin, and zinc (I take it for my acne though). I work for gastro doctors and they swear by probiotics and lots of patients say they help loads. From what I've read and started doing is you are better off eating foods high in whatever you feel your diet is lacking. I'm only 25 so keep that in mind. If you'd like to see if they;'re even doing anything you should take only one for two weeks and then two weeks off, repeat with a different supplement. No St. Johns Wart, that stuff is awful for your body! Hope this helps, and good luck!0
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90% of supplements aren't needed, yet they are a billion dollar industry.
Just some quick info:
More than 9/10 of sellers of supplements don't manufacture them themselves. They use a 3rd party. Since supplements aren't regulated by the FDA (DSHEA is the organization that oversees it) practically ANYONE or embodiment can market a supplement. It doesn't have pass a purity test, nor any other evidence to show they work. They just have to be SAFE to ingest.
Since most raw materials come from China, cross contamination from other ingredients and chemicals are common. There is no regulation for purity of raw materials being shipped and received by 3rd party manufacturers of supplement products. Lots of pro and amateur athletes have been busted for illegal use of banned chemicals and the only thing they added was an approved supplement to their regimen.
Eat smart and get in your essentials through food and drink. Of the few supplements that actually have clinical study for effectiveness: whey protein, creatine and omega 3 oils are legit.
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C'mon.Lots of pro and amateur athletes have been busted for illegal use of banned chemicals and the only thing they added was an approved supplement to their regimen.
That's like saying you believe Michael Sam.
There is a lot of PED use starting at weekend warriors and going all the way up to the pros. You just have pros that were caught, and pros that weren't caught.
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They will work very often, if there is a problem to solve. If you're low on D and take D, your D may very well come up.
If you aren't low in the first place, they are generally peed out. Most vitamins and minerals aren't stored, so you just pee out the extra. The ones that don't get peed out (like D) get stored. There are millions of things going on onside the body every minute and every single one of them is dependent on balances that healthy bodies maintain. The body is not about to allow some stupid chemical you swallow to mess things up if it can help it. It gets rid of everything it can't use or store.
None of that stuff is hanging out in your cells and causing you to lose weight.
So, when you buy and swallow "supplements" you do not need, you just have expensive urine. You may as well set the money on fire.
If you have money to blow, give it to people who can put it to good use. So many people need money for food, heat and medications that it seems very wasteful to spend it on expensive urine.0 -
Yes they can work if needed and are Bioavailable (this is a huge factor) to get into the parts of the body where they are required.0
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Well my pee looks prettier when it's expensive. ...
I have a 2 month supply ahead of me. when I bought the supplements, I made sure that I chose the additional products that would make the supplement bioavailable (the whey, and pepper, vitamin E and omega 3 all serve in those capacities.)
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work for what? what is it you are trying to get?0
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well, overall - optimal health.
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- Knowing that my diet, while healthier than it was, can't possibly hot all the nutrients that it needs to sustain my body at optimal health. And also, knowing that as I age, my body, the cells, joints, brain - could all be slowing down - going the supplement route to make sure that I don't wear and tear as much as I age.
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I guess I shouldn't expect a 'real fountain of youth' in a bottle - but, do supplements work to slow down the process?
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Oh no, I do believe there are lots of pros and amateurs that use PEDs, however there were some like myself that didn't.
C'mon.Lots of pro and amateur athletes have been busted for illegal use of banned chemicals and the only thing they added was an approved supplement to their regimen.
That's like saying you believe Michael Sam.
There is a lot of PED use starting at weekend warriors and going all the way up to the pros. You just have pros that were caught, and pros that weren't caught.
Prohormones back in the 90's "weren't" illegal and deemed supplements. Later I found out that they were actually deemed as steroids. Anyone that took a test back then would not have passed.
Point is, that supplements aren't as "pure" just because they are in a bottle and the sellers says so.
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Genetics have more to do with this. Cells regenerate at a given rate based on genetics.RoseyDgirl wrote: »well, overall - optimal health.
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- Knowing that my diet, while healthier than it was, can't possibly hot all the nutrients that it needs to sustain my body at optimal health. And also, knowing that as I age, my body, the cells, joints, brain - could all be slowing down - going the supplement route to make sure that I don't wear and tear as much as I age.
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I guess I shouldn't expect a 'real fountain of youth' in a bottle - but, do supplements work to slow down the process?
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Your friendly dietitian says: Get blood work done to see if you are deficient in any vitamin or mineral. Increase the foods that are rich in the vitamins/minerals you are low in. If you have functioning kidneys, they will filter out any surplus to keep our blood in balance. Supplements are necessary, but mainly for people who have chronic illnesses, recovering from injuries or surgeries, or who have GI issues with absorption (gastric bypass patients for example).
We all think that if a little is good, then more should be better...not in the case of supplements. Your urine color says a lot about what kinds of things your kidneys are filtering. If you have bright, glowing yellow pee, it's not normal. Rust colored isn't either.
Be kind to your body. Eat lots of colored fruits and veggies and quality protein. You're body will thank you
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I only supplement if I'm short on something.0
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RoseyDgirl wrote: »well, overall - optimal health.
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- Knowing that my diet, while healthier than it was, can't possibly hot all the nutrients that it needs to sustain my body at optimal health. And also, knowing that as I age, my body, the cells, joints, brain - could all be slowing down - going the supplement route to make sure that I don't wear and tear as much as I age.
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I guess I shouldn't expect a 'real fountain of youth' in a bottle - but, do supplements work to slow down the process?
I use a glucosamine/chondroitin supplement for my joints, to keep them from being too crackling and painful when Im working out and to slow down deterioration there. I have accepted that I will probably have to do this long term. (leftover serious injuries from a loss against an 18 wheeler)
I also take vitamin E weekly just as a little bit of help with my hair, skin and nails as I get older.
Other than that, Vitamin D in winter to prevent the sads/cabin fever/couch potatoness and Iron when Im chasing the cotton mouse to keep me from getting exhausted all the time.
these work for me, but not in huge constant doses. I use them to supplement what Im getting through food.
So I try to get all my nutrients through food and maybe an extra 10% on the top with a couple specific-to-me vitamins and minerals.0 -
According to my bloodwork before and after starting supplements, mine are working. I consider my doctor's evaluation based on this bloodwork to be an accurate and objective measure of determining this.0
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my pee isn't glowing ... but it's not clear white like it used to be... it's more the shade between sunshine and lemon yellow...
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If you make an effort, you can get what you need from food. A multivitamin is a fine idea for those who don't have a healthy, balanced diet.RoseyDgirl wrote: »well, overall - optimal health.
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- Knowing that my diet, while healthier than it was, can't possibly hot all the nutrients that it needs to sustain my body at optimal health. And also, knowing that as I age, my body, the cells, joints, brain - could all be slowing down - going the supplement route to make sure that I don't wear and tear as much as I age.
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I guess I shouldn't expect a 'real fountain of youth' in a bottle - but, do supplements work to slow down the process?
No, the supplements won't stop or slow the aging process. The only thing that stops the aging process is death.0 -
It honestly depends on the situation. Some vitamins are water-soluble; deficiency can occur fairly quickly, and excess intake is excreted through urine. Fat-soluble vitamins (A, D, E, and K) have a high risk of developing a toxicity from (excess is stored in fat), and deficiencies take a longer time to develop than with water-soluble vitamins.
Personally, I have a documented vitamin D deficiency, and I take a 2000IU supplement if I cannot get enough vitamin D through my diet that day. Some products I consume are fortified with 100% of the vitamin D RDA, so I do not take a supplement that day in order to prevent toxicity.
I do not eat seafood, so I would be a good candidate for an omega 3 supplement. A vegan would be a good candidate for vitamin B12 and irons supplements, because B12 and iron are difficult to obtain through non-animal products.
If you are eating a variety of foods, supplementation should not be a major concern. If anything, taking too high of a supplement dose would create nothing but expensive urine (and a higher risk of toxicity for the fat-soluble vitamins).0 -
Too much of certain vitamins have been linked to cancer. Google the beta carotene lung cancer trial which they had to cease because the cancer rates increased. The body detoxes in pathways and they thought that it increased one of the toxic metabolites in the pathway. Even too much folate, a water soluble vitamin, has been linked to growth of existing cancers because it likely increases the rate of DNA synthesis. Folate depletion is a cancer treatment. (I'm on my iPad so I can't link the literature, sorry).
Unless you have a confirmed deficiency, I think it's a waste of money at best.
I took vit D for a short time because I was deficient. Now I just take a fish oil capsule because I don't get enough omega 3 EFA in my diet.
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I take
- vitamin D (severely deficient according to blood tests) - it comes in a blend with magnesium and calcium, and I try to get enough green leafy veg in to balance that out (because if you don't have enough vitamin K, that calcium, which helps vitamin D metabolize, can be a problem). I could just have dairy, but wanted the mag to help with muscle pains and some sleep issues
- iron (am on the low side) & vit B complex mix for fatigue
- omega 3 oil
- vitamin C (I have a lot of connective tissue problems and it's said this helps, why not)
- I do have glucosamine sulfate for joint issues, but always forget to take it (it's a 3x/day thing).0 -
I take grape seed extract, VitC, chia seed oil and coenzyme Q10 to hopefully slow down the ageing process and for their skin benefits.
I also take bee pollen as a multivitamin and it stops my allergies. And last but not least, probiotics!!0 -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tZLg-WIQCs
Program on supplement taking and vitamins if you lot are bored.0 -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tZLg-WIQCs
Program on supplement taking and vitamins if you lot are bored.
Interesting how we try to be healthy and wind up hurting our health sometimes. Thanks for the link.
Since you can not just have one I had the second but warn some not to watch because it will expose some posting on this site.
50 Shocking Facts About Diet & Exercise
https://youtube.com/watch?v=LBUQ9z745GQ
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GaleHawkins wrote: »https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tZLg-WIQCs
Program on supplement taking and vitamins if you lot are bored.
Interesting how we try to be healthy and wind up hurting our health sometimes. Thanks for the link.
Since you can not just have one I had the second but warn some not to watch because it will expose some posting on this site.
50 Shocking Facts About Diet & Exercise
https://youtube.com/watch?v=LBUQ9z745GQ
I've already watched that and it's just BBC hype and I consider it a waste of time.
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Works only if you are deficient0
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Creatine is one of the few supps that actually works. The only downside is you'll be pissing a lot because you have to drink so much water.0
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uconnwinsnc1 wrote: »Creatine is one of the few supps that actually works. The only downside is you'll be pissing a lot because you have to drink so much water.
Oh that would explain it!
Note that you also gain about 2 to 4 lbs of water weight so some people might panic while loading. 0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tZLg-WIQCs
Program on supplement taking and vitamins if you lot are bored.
Interesting how we try to be healthy and wind up hurting our health sometimes. Thanks for the link.
Since you can not just have one I had the second but warn some not to watch because it will expose some posting on this site.
50 Shocking Facts About Diet & Exercise
https://youtube.com/watch?v=LBUQ9z745GQ
I've already watched that and it's just BBC hype and I consider it a waste of time.
Of course you did.
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GaleHawkins wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tZLg-WIQCs
Program on supplement taking and vitamins if you lot are bored.
Interesting how we try to be healthy and wind up hurting our health sometimes. Thanks for the link.
Since you can not just have one I had the second but warn some not to watch because it will expose some posting on this site.
50 Shocking Facts About Diet & Exercise
https://youtube.com/watch?v=LBUQ9z745GQ
I've already watched that and it's just BBC hype and I consider it a waste of time.
Of course you did.
I have YouTube and too much time on my hands as you know! 0 -
I take quiet a few supplements. Do they work? Well, I feel great, seldom get sick and my quack is always pleased with my blood work and over all health. I'm of the mind that they do work to some degree, but eatting a balanced diet, exercising and getting adequate rest is 90% of it, supplements may (key word) help with the other 10%.0
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TiberiusClaudis wrote: »I take quiet a few supplements. Do they work? Well, I feel great, seldom get sick and my quack is always pleased with my blood work and over all health. I'm of the mind that they do work to some degree, but eatting a balanced diet, exercising and getting adequate rest is 90% of it, supplements may (key word) help with the other 10%.
First thing you always here on places like BB.com is "dial in your diet first". Very good advice that.0
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