1200 calorie meal plan for road trip?
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jofjltncb6 wrote: »
which one do you recommend?0 -
jofjltncb6 wrote: »
which one do you recommend?
You have to find which one works for your individual body. Some clearly detox better for some people than others.0 -
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I can't get on board with someone deciding that her priorities and objectives and choices are the best ones for everyone, end of story.
Some people prefer to lose faster; they'd rather have fewer daily calories and see faster results.
Not everyone is miserable on fewer calories per day.
And some people prefer to do less exercise and eat less. So many people act like getting more food is worth any exercise sacrifice. Some people don't have the goal to be in optimum health, they just want to fit into a certain size clothing.
Just for fair disclosure, I personally could not sustain 1200 calories a day over time (I'm find going under during the few days a month I lose my appetite), and I enjoy my exercise and getting stronger. So I'm not defending myself so much as people's right to choose what works for them without being told they are WRONG, all WRONG, you know?0 -
Turning_Hopes_to_Habits wrote: »I can't get on board with someone deciding that her priorities and objectives and choices are the best ones for everyone, end of story.
Some people prefer to lose faster; they'd rather have fewer daily calories and see faster results.
Not everyone is miserable on fewer calories per day.
And some people prefer to do less exercise and eat less. So many people act like getting more food is worth any exercise sacrifice. Some people don't have the goal to be in optimum health, they just want to fit into a certain size clothing.
Just for fair disclosure, I personally could not sustain 1200 calories a day over time (I'm find going under during the few days a month I lose my appetite), and I enjoy my exercise and getting stronger. So I'm not defending myself so much as people's right to choose what works for them without being told they are WRONG, all WRONG, you know?
So let's say someone is doing 1200 calories, they stop losing, so they dropped their calories even more, let's say 1000 calories, then it happens again, so drop it again to 700 calories, do you see the problem. If they were eating more calories they would have some wiggle room when they need to drop their calories down, especially down near their goal weight. Just to add, how about hair loss, muscle, you know that your heart is a muscle right? Just saying...0 -
jofjltncb6 wrote: »
Yes!0 -
pincushion14 wrote: »jofjltncb6 wrote: »I went on a road trip, most gas stations have vegetable and fruit snacks and almost all fast food restaurants have salad.
I eat 1200 calories a day but I just dont eat bread so I can eat a lot more for that 1200 calories.
Your profile pic makes me twitchy. Please to never actually fire a gun in that position. You could break a wrist/break a shoulder/lose an eye/drop the gun.
However, if you ever do decide to ignore my advice, please have someone record it on video.
As a 3-Gun and IDPA shooter, I facepalmed. LOL
I was going to mention it... but hey, everyone deserves the right to take a scope in the eye, or a charging lever in the nose. Or to lose the rifle on the first shot.0 -
0somuchbetter0 wrote: »She's sedentary and wants to lose more than that:
BMR 1475
1771 daily calories to maintain
1328 to lose 46 pounds in a year
Hey, what a coincidence! The hypothetical lady's cal requirements are 1328 and I normally have mine set at 1300-1350. Whodathunk.
Because walking over a mile a day is totally sedentary? Hmmm. Well, okay then.
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pincushion14 wrote: »jofjltncb6 wrote: »I went on a road trip, most gas stations have vegetable and fruit snacks and almost all fast food restaurants have salad.
I eat 1200 calories a day but I just dont eat bread so I can eat a lot more for that 1200 calories.
Your profile pic makes me twitchy. Please to never actually fire a gun in that position. You could break a wrist/break a shoulder/lose an eye/drop the gun.
However, if you ever do decide to ignore my advice, please have someone record it on video.
As a 3-Gun and IDPA shooter, I facepalmed. LOL
I won't lie. I winced when I saw that.
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This is exactly what I was thinking. I get soooo tired of everyone making blanket statements about 1200 calories being too low. At 47 years old and 130 lbs, in order to lose I have to net UNDER 1200.
No, you will have to exercise more.
Starvation is not, I repeat, NOT a healthy way to lose weight, and if you are eating significantly below your BMR for any longer period you are essentially starving yourself.
Notice I said NET UNDER 1200. That means I eat back exercise. I need to net about 1160, then I earn 200 or so cAls from 30 minute workout. So I eat total 1360, but NET 1160.
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Nobody was discussing the What Ifs.Turning_Hopes_to_Habits wrote: »I can't get on board with someone deciding that her priorities and objectives and choices are the best ones for everyone, end of story.
Some people prefer to lose faster; they'd rather have fewer daily calories and see faster results.
Not everyone is miserable on fewer calories per day.
And some people prefer to do less exercise and eat less. So many people act like getting more food is worth any exercise sacrifice. Some people don't have the goal to be in optimum health, they just want to fit into a certain size clothing.
Just for fair disclosure, I personally could not sustain 1200 calories a day over time (I'm find going under during the few days a month I lose my appetite), and I enjoy my exercise and getting stronger. So I'm not defending myself so much as people's right to choose what works for them without being told they are WRONG, all WRONG, you know?
So let's say someone is doing 1200 calories, they stop losing, so they dropped their calories even more, let's say 1000 calories, then it happens again, so drop it again to 700 calories, do you see the problem. If they were eating more calories they would have some wiggle room when they need to drop their calories down, especially down near their goal weight. Just to add, how about hair loss, muscle, you know that your heart is a muscle right? Just saying...
Making up What Ifs can work in everyone's favor, though. What if she eats more, goes of the diet, gains 100 pounds and gets hit by a truck on the way to McDonald's, which causes her to suffer a great deal of pain?
Discussing What Ifs...it would never end.
But, if you think that the OP's 1200 calorie will cause her to die of cardiac problems, then it is right for you to tell her so and advise against it. It would be wrong to see someone heading down a path of destruction and not say, "Hey, this sounds dangerous to me!"
Telling a bunch of people who have to eat 1200 how you can eat more doesn't really get that "I think this is a dangerous plan" message across, though. It comes off more like food bragging.
It seems your motives are good, but the message gets lost.
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WalkingAlong wrote: »But 1200 isn't dangerous. No one considers that 'knowledge' besides some forumites.
Agree, hair and muscles are just not that important. LOL /sarcasm
When I did 1200 calories, I lost a lot of hair, cranky, fatigued, dizzy spells, probably lost a lot muscles and who knows what damages I did then and in the past, also try getting the nutrition you need in 1200 calories, you can't. I am 5'2, 45 yrs old and so glad I listen/read what the "mean people" had to say about eating more.
How tall are you? I'm 5'8", and haven't been morbidly obese (BMI over 35) since 264 lbs. Or, are you going by the 100 pounds over ideal weight definition?
I'm averaging just under 1200 (gross) calories (I have to be under on no-exercise days to keep the numbers from going red) a day, and I feel great. I mean, I was a little demotivated last week, but that was PMS. I'm also finding I have more energy during my workouts. I used to watch the clock during karate, wondering if I would make it to the end. Now I just feel lighted buzzed, as I look around at my classmates panting around me...My last jog was my best so far (although I worry that my speed is (gradually) increasing only because my weight is decreasing...)
I'm getting stronger, and have better endurance. The only pitfall, is I'm losing a little quicker (3-4 pounds a week), but, as my deficit will shrink with me (right now 800 calories/day), that will naturally slow down with time. And, losing faster when 30+ BMI is not as risky. I guess part of me is nervous and wants to "practice" for when 1200 is my calorie range to lose .5 pounds a week, when I will absolutely have to be at 1200 to lose weight.
With me it is partially laziness. I can't be bothered to figure out more healthy snacks (if I eat more it tends to be junk). By 9 - 10 pm, I'm not hungry and don't want to eat anymore. Sometimes I've gone under 1000 calories because I was too busy to eat during the day, and too exhausted to eat at night.
I don't get all my nutrition from my food, but I never did, as I am a picky eater. So I take vitamins/minerals.
Everyone's needs are different. My mom is petite and in menopause, and she maintains at 1200 calories a day. Someone as athletic as you needs a lot more of everything just to get by (congrats on all your success, by the way). The journey looks different for us all, I guess...
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Nobody was discussing the What Ifs.Turning_Hopes_to_Habits wrote: »I can't get on board with someone deciding that her priorities and objectives and choices are the best ones for everyone, end of story.
Some people prefer to lose faster; they'd rather have fewer daily calories and see faster results.
Not everyone is miserable on fewer calories per day.
And some people prefer to do less exercise and eat less. So many people act like getting more food is worth any exercise sacrifice. Some people don't have the goal to be in optimum health, they just want to fit into a certain size clothing.
Just for fair disclosure, I personally could not sustain 1200 calories a day over time (I'm find going under during the few days a month I lose my appetite), and I enjoy my exercise and getting stronger. So I'm not defending myself so much as people's right to choose what works for them without being told they are WRONG, all WRONG, you know?
So let's say someone is doing 1200 calories, they stop losing, so they dropped their calories even more, let's say 1000 calories, then it happens again, so drop it again to 700 calories, do you see the problem. If they were eating more calories they would have some wiggle room when they need to drop their calories down, especially down near their goal weight. Just to add, how about hair loss, muscle, you know that your heart is a muscle right? Just saying...
Making up What Ifs can work in everyone's favor, though. What if she eats more, goes of the diet, gains 100 pounds and gets hit by a truck on the way to McDonald's, which causes her to suffer a great deal of pain?
Discussing What Ifs...it would never end.
But, if you think that the OP's 1200 calorie will cause her to die of cardiac problems, then it is right for you to tell her so and advise against it. It would be wrong to see someone heading down a path of destruction and not say, "Hey, this sounds dangerous to me!"
Telling a bunch of people who have to eat 1200 how you can eat more doesn't really get that "I think this is a dangerous plan" message across, though. It comes off more like food bragging.
It seems your motives are good, but the message gets lost.
You consider the most knowledgeable posters to be "bullies" and "meanies" so I'm not surprised you consider this "food bragging"-1 -
beef jerky, fruit, nuts, string cheese, air popped popcorn!
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WalkingAlong wrote: »But 1200 isn't dangerous. No one considers that 'knowledge' besides some forumites.
Agree, hair and muscles are just not that important. LOL /sarcasm
When I did 1200 calories, I lost a lot of hair, cranky, fatigued, dizzy spells, probably lost a lot muscles and who knows what damages I did then and in the past, also try getting the nutrition you need in 1200 calories, you can't. I am 5'2, 45 yrs old and so glad I listen/read what the "mean people" had to say about eating more.
How tall are you? I'm 5'8", and haven't been morbidly obese (BMI over 35) since 264 lbs. Or, are you going by the 100 pounds over ideal weight definition?
I'm averaging just under 1200 (gross) calories (I have to be under on no-exercise days to keep the numbers from going red) a day, and I feel great. I mean, I was a little demotivated last week, but that was PMS. I'm also finding I have more energy during my workouts. I used to watch the clock during karate, wondering if I would make it to the end. Now I just feel lighted buzzed, as I look around at my classmates panting around me...My last jog was my best so far (although I worry that my speed is (gradually) increasing only because my weight is decreasing...)
I'm getting stronger, and have better endurance. The only pitfall, is I'm losing a little quicker (3-4 pounds a week), but, as my deficit will shrink with me (right now 800 calories/day), that will naturally slow down with time. And, losing faster when 30+ BMI is not as risky. I guess part of me is nervous and wants to "practice" for when 1200 is my calorie range to lose .5 pounds a week, when I will absolutely have to be at 1200 to lose weight.
With me it is partially laziness. I can't be bothered to figure out more healthy snacks (if I eat more it tends to be junk). By 9 - 10 pm, I'm not hungry and don't want to eat anymore. Sometimes I've gone under 1000 calories because I was too busy to eat during the day, and too exhausted to eat at night.
I don't get all my nutrition from my food, but I never did, as I am a picky eater. So I take vitamins/minerals.
Everyone's needs are different. My mom is petite and in menopause, and she maintains at 1200 calories a day. Someone as athletic as you needs a lot more of everything just to get by (congrats on all your success, by the way). The journey looks different for us all, I guess...
If you are losing 3-4 lbs per week, your deficit is greater than 800 calories. And you misunderstand what happens the closer you get to goal. When your deficit shrinks, you eat more calories, and still lose weight, just less of it each week. I'm 5'7" and I've never had a calorie goal before exercise of less than 1400. I can eat between 1800-2000 and lose 0.5 lb per week.
I think you would benefit from recalculating your numbers, because it sounds like something is way off and you run the risk of doing some pretty serious damage to your body. No one at 5'8" should absolutely have be at 1200 calories to lose weight at any point in their weight loss.0 -
pincushion14 wrote: »jofjltncb6 wrote: »I went on a road trip, most gas stations have vegetable and fruit snacks and almost all fast food restaurants have salad.
I eat 1200 calories a day but I just dont eat bread so I can eat a lot more for that 1200 calories.
Your profile pic makes me twitchy. Please to never actually fire a gun in that position. You could break a wrist/break a shoulder/lose an eye/drop the gun.
However, if you ever do decide to ignore my advice, please have someone record it on video.
As a 3-Gun and IDPA shooter, I facepalmed. LOL
I was going to mention it... but hey, everyone deserves the right to take a scope in the eye, or a charging lever in the nose. Or to lose the rifle on the first shot.
I guess we all have to figure out what works best for our bodies when shooting. Who are we to tell her that what she is doing in this pic is potentially harmful for her? It's best for us just to keep our mouths shut and let her learn for herself...and if someone else sees her pic and decides it's a good idea, why do we care? This is the "nice" thing to do. To speak up would be a "mean" thing to do.0 -
Is there any evidence that the majority of people on 1200 calorie diets lose hair, feel weak, etc.? I would find that surprising, but am totally open to finding out I'm wrong. Better to be factually correct than to keep on wrongly thinking you are.
I know a long time ago I heard about a study saying that the government had determined that sedentary people needed 800 calories or so a day to maintain minimum health standards, but that was a long time ago and the research could be out of date.0 -
I saw that, lol'ed.PikaKnight wrote: »0somuchbetter0 wrote: »She's sedentary and wants to lose more than that:
BMR 1475
1771 daily calories to maintain
1328 to lose 46 pounds in a year
Hey, what a coincidence! The hypothetical lady's cal requirements are 1328 and I normally have mine set at 1300-1350. Whodathunk.
Because walking over a mile a day is totally sedentary? Hmmm. Well, okay then.
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jofjltncb6 wrote: »pincushion14 wrote: »jofjltncb6 wrote: »I went on a road trip, most gas stations have vegetable and fruit snacks and almost all fast food restaurants have salad.
I eat 1200 calories a day but I just dont eat bread so I can eat a lot more for that 1200 calories.
Your profile pic makes me twitchy. Please to never actually fire a gun in that position. You could break a wrist/break a shoulder/lose an eye/drop the gun.
However, if you ever do decide to ignore my advice, please have someone record it on video.
As a 3-Gun and IDPA shooter, I facepalmed. LOL
I was going to mention it... but hey, everyone deserves the right to take a scope in the eye, or a charging lever in the nose. Or to lose the rifle on the first shot.
I guess we all have to figure out what works best for our bodies when shooting. Who are we to tell her that what she is doing in this pic is potentially harmful for her? It's best for us just to keep our mouths shut and let her learn for herself...and if someone else sees her pic and decides it's a good idea, why do we care? This is the "nice" thing to do. To speak up would be a "mean" thing to do.
I think I'm totally in like with both of you.0 -
The real gem, "Please have someone record it on video."
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No, I consider people who gang up to make fun of others to be bullies, especially when they ask innocent-sounding questions in order to get a response - any response - so that they can mock, ridicule and insult the other person. And much more so when they do it is a group, tossing insults back-and-forth and making a big show of how they're laughing at people. None of it has anything to do with knowledge and can be accomplished with or without any brains at all. Sometimes these insulting people are also dead wrong and not more knowledgeable.
Nobody was discussing the What Ifs.Turning_Hopes_to_Habits wrote: »I can't get on board with someone deciding that her priorities and objectives and choices are the best ones for everyone, end of story.
Some people prefer to lose faster; they'd rather have fewer daily calories and see faster results.
Not everyone is miserable on fewer calories per day.
And some people prefer to do less exercise and eat less. So many people act like getting more food is worth any exercise sacrifice. Some people don't have the goal to be in optimum health, they just want to fit into a certain size clothing.
Just for fair disclosure, I personally could not sustain 1200 calories a day over time (I'm find going under during the few days a month I lose my appetite), and I enjoy my exercise and getting stronger. So I'm not defending myself so much as people's right to choose what works for them without being told they are WRONG, all WRONG, you know?
So let's say someone is doing 1200 calories, they stop losing, so they dropped their calories even more, let's say 1000 calories, then it happens again, so drop it again to 700 calories, do you see the problem. If they were eating more calories they would have some wiggle room when they need to drop their calories down, especially down near their goal weight. Just to add, how about hair loss, muscle, you know that your heart is a muscle right? Just saying...
Making up What Ifs can work in everyone's favor, though. What if she eats more, goes of the diet, gains 100 pounds and gets hit by a truck on the way to McDonald's, which causes her to suffer a great deal of pain?
Discussing What Ifs...it would never end.
But, if you think that the OP's 1200 calorie will cause her to die of cardiac problems, then it is right for you to tell her so and advise against it. It would be wrong to see someone heading down a path of destruction and not say, "Hey, this sounds dangerous to me!"
Telling a bunch of people who have to eat 1200 how you can eat more doesn't really get that "I think this is a dangerous plan" message across, though. It comes off more like food bragging.
It seems your motives are good, but the message gets lost.
You consider the most knowledgeable posters to be "bullies" and "meanies" so I'm not surprised you consider this "food bragging"
I wanted her to know I understood her point and her good motives and thought she might appreciate knowing that her message of concern was getting lost and being heard very differently than she was intending.
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Turning_Hopes_to_Habits wrote: »Is there any evidence that the majority of people on 1200 calorie diets lose hair, feel weak, etc.? I would find that surprising, but am totally open to finding out I'm wrong. Better to be factually correct than to keep on wrongly thinking you are.
I know a long time ago I heard about a study saying that the government had determined that sedentary people needed 800 calories or so a day to maintain minimum health standards, but that was a long time ago and the research could be out of date.
Concentration camp prisoners ate around 900-1000 calories day. Unless you are less then 5 feet tall, no one should be doing 1200 calories, except medical issues.-1 -
No, I consider people who gang up to make fun of others to be bullies, especially when they ask innocent-sounding questions in order to get a response - any response - so that they can mock, ridicule and insult the other person. And much more so when they do it is a group, tossing insults back-and-forth and making a big show of how they're laughing at people. None of it has anything to do with knowledge and can be accomplished with or without any brains at all. Sometimes these insulting people are also dead wrong and not more knowledgeable.
Nobody was discussing the What Ifs.Turning_Hopes_to_Habits wrote: »I can't get on board with someone deciding that her priorities and objectives and choices are the best ones for everyone, end of story.
Some people prefer to lose faster; they'd rather have fewer daily calories and see faster results.
Not everyone is miserable on fewer calories per day.
And some people prefer to do less exercise and eat less. So many people act like getting more food is worth any exercise sacrifice. Some people don't have the goal to be in optimum health, they just want to fit into a certain size clothing.
Just for fair disclosure, I personally could not sustain 1200 calories a day over time (I'm find going under during the few days a month I lose my appetite), and I enjoy my exercise and getting stronger. So I'm not defending myself so much as people's right to choose what works for them without being told they are WRONG, all WRONG, you know?
So let's say someone is doing 1200 calories, they stop losing, so they dropped their calories even more, let's say 1000 calories, then it happens again, so drop it again to 700 calories, do you see the problem. If they were eating more calories they would have some wiggle room when they need to drop their calories down, especially down near their goal weight. Just to add, how about hair loss, muscle, you know that your heart is a muscle right? Just saying...
Making up What Ifs can work in everyone's favor, though. What if she eats more, goes of the diet, gains 100 pounds and gets hit by a truck on the way to McDonald's, which causes her to suffer a great deal of pain?
Discussing What Ifs...it would never end.
But, if you think that the OP's 1200 calorie will cause her to die of cardiac problems, then it is right for you to tell her so and advise against it. It would be wrong to see someone heading down a path of destruction and not say, "Hey, this sounds dangerous to me!"
Telling a bunch of people who have to eat 1200 how you can eat more doesn't really get that "I think this is a dangerous plan" message across, though. It comes off more like food bragging.
It seems your motives are good, but the message gets lost.
You consider the most knowledgeable posters to be "bullies" and "meanies" so I'm not surprised you consider this "food bragging"
I wanted her to know I understood her point and her good motives and thought she might appreciate knowing that her message of concern was getting lost and being heard very differently than she was intending.
At least I try to help. All you do is run around calling everybody meanies and bullies.-1 -
pincushion14 wrote: »jofjltncb6 wrote: »pincushion14 wrote: »jofjltncb6 wrote: »I went on a road trip, most gas stations have vegetable and fruit snacks and almost all fast food restaurants have salad.
I eat 1200 calories a day but I just dont eat bread so I can eat a lot more for that 1200 calories.
Your profile pic makes me twitchy. Please to never actually fire a gun in that position. You could break a wrist/break a shoulder/lose an eye/drop the gun.
However, if you ever do decide to ignore my advice, please have someone record it on video.
As a 3-Gun and IDPA shooter, I facepalmed. LOL
I was going to mention it... but hey, everyone deserves the right to take a scope in the eye, or a charging lever in the nose. Or to lose the rifle on the first shot.
I guess we all have to figure out what works best for our bodies when shooting. Who are we to tell her that what she is doing in this pic is potentially harmful for her? It's best for us just to keep our mouths shut and let her learn for herself...and if someone else sees her pic and decides it's a good idea, why do we care? This is the "nice" thing to do. To speak up would be a "mean" thing to do.
I think I'm totally in like with both of you.
I'm a pretty likable guy...
(...not to be confused with a pretty, likable guy.)0 -
No, I consider people who gang up to make fun of others to be bullies, especially when they ask innocent-sounding questions in order to get a response - any response - so that they can mock, ridicule and insult the other person. And much more so when they do it is a group, tossing insults back-and-forth and making a big show of how they're laughing at people. None of it has anything to do with knowledge and can be accomplished with or without any brains at all. Sometimes these insulting people are also dead wrong and not more knowledgeable.
Nobody was discussing the What Ifs.Turning_Hopes_to_Habits wrote: »I can't get on board with someone deciding that her priorities and objectives and choices are the best ones for everyone, end of story.
Some people prefer to lose faster; they'd rather have fewer daily calories and see faster results.
Not everyone is miserable on fewer calories per day.
And some people prefer to do less exercise and eat less. So many people act like getting more food is worth any exercise sacrifice. Some people don't have the goal to be in optimum health, they just want to fit into a certain size clothing.
Just for fair disclosure, I personally could not sustain 1200 calories a day over time (I'm find going under during the few days a month I lose my appetite), and I enjoy my exercise and getting stronger. So I'm not defending myself so much as people's right to choose what works for them without being told they are WRONG, all WRONG, you know?
So let's say someone is doing 1200 calories, they stop losing, so they dropped their calories even more, let's say 1000 calories, then it happens again, so drop it again to 700 calories, do you see the problem. If they were eating more calories they would have some wiggle room when they need to drop their calories down, especially down near their goal weight. Just to add, how about hair loss, muscle, you know that your heart is a muscle right? Just saying...
Making up What Ifs can work in everyone's favor, though. What if she eats more, goes of the diet, gains 100 pounds and gets hit by a truck on the way to McDonald's, which causes her to suffer a great deal of pain?
Discussing What Ifs...it would never end.
But, if you think that the OP's 1200 calorie will cause her to die of cardiac problems, then it is right for you to tell her so and advise against it. It would be wrong to see someone heading down a path of destruction and not say, "Hey, this sounds dangerous to me!"
Telling a bunch of people who have to eat 1200 how you can eat more doesn't really get that "I think this is a dangerous plan" message across, though. It comes off more like food bragging.
It seems your motives are good, but the message gets lost.
You consider the most knowledgeable posters to be "bullies" and "meanies" so I'm not surprised you consider this "food bragging"
I wanted her to know I understood her point and her good motives and thought she might appreciate knowing that her message of concern was getting lost and being heard very differently than she was intending.
At least I try to help. All you do is run around calling everybody meanies and bullies.
That would not be true. I only call the bullies "bullies", not everyone. It also isn't all I do.
I never mentioned you as part of the group who baits people into being mocked and insulted, then laughs about how they have done it and jokes with other bullies about it. I am not sure why you are including yourself in that group. Have you done that?0 -
WalkingAlong wrote: »But 1200 isn't dangerous. No one considers that 'knowledge' besides some forumites.
Agree, hair and muscles are just not that important. LOL /sarcasm
When I did 1200 calories, I lost a lot of hair, cranky, fatigued, dizzy spells, probably lost a lot muscles and who knows what damages I did then and in the past, also try getting the nutrition you need in 1200 calories, you can't. I am 5'2, 45 yrs old and so glad I listen/read what the "mean people" had to say about eating more.
How tall are you? I'm 5'8", and haven't been morbidly obese (BMI over 35) since 264 lbs. Or, are you going by the 100 pounds over ideal weight definition?
I'm averaging just under 1200 (gross) calories (I have to be under on no-exercise days to keep the numbers from going red) a day, and I feel great. I mean, I was a little demotivated last week, but that was PMS. I'm also finding I have more energy during my workouts. I used to watch the clock during karate, wondering if I would make it to the end. Now I just feel lighted buzzed, as I look around at my classmates panting around me...My last jog was my best so far (although I worry that my speed is (gradually) increasing only because my weight is decreasing...)
I'm getting stronger, and have better endurance. The only pitfall, is I'm losing a little quicker (3-4 pounds a week), but, as my deficit will shrink with me (right now 800 calories/day), that will naturally slow down with time. And, losing faster when 30+ BMI is not as risky. I guess part of me is nervous and wants to "practice" for when 1200 is my calorie range to lose .5 pounds a week, when I will absolutely have to be at 1200 to lose weight.
With me it is partially laziness. I can't be bothered to figure out more healthy snacks (if I eat more it tends to be junk). By 9 - 10 pm, I'm not hungry and don't want to eat anymore. Sometimes I've gone under 1000 calories because I was too busy to eat during the day, and too exhausted to eat at night.
I don't get all my nutrition from my food, but I never did, as I am a picky eater. So I take vitamins/minerals.
Everyone's needs are different. My mom is petite and in menopause, and she maintains at 1200 calories a day. Someone as athletic as you needs a lot more of everything just to get by (congrats on all your success, by the way). The journey looks different for us all, I guess...
If you are losing 3-4 lbs per week, your deficit is greater than 800 calories. And you misunderstand what happens the closer you get to goal. When your deficit shrinks, you eat more calories, and still lose weight, just less of it each week. I'm 5'7" and I've never had a calorie goal before exercise of less than 1400. I can eat between 1800-2000 and lose 0.5 lb per week.
I think you would benefit from recalculating your numbers, because it sounds like something is way off and you run the risk of doing some pretty serious damage to your body. No one at 5'8" should absolutely have be at 1200 calories to lose weight at any point in their weight loss.
I'm not too worried about damaging myself. I get in about 80 grams of protein a day, which is above what the nutritionist recommended for my weight (.8/kg = 71g a day). The protein keeps my body from eating up it's own muscles. My Dr. is aware of my weight loss (or her locum is, at least), I've passed my blood tests, and I've talked to 3 dietitians about my diet, 2 of which have actually looked what I've been eating (MFP is great - I can print off my meals for the week and bring them to my appointments). The last dietitian actually said she wished she could give some of my motivation to her other clients. I may be a little low on fat (about 25 grams/day when I'm not eating any junk food), and may bring some coconut oil into my diet in the new year...
Part of me just needs to push myself a little. I dropped WW once because I was convinced I couldn't eat at 24 points (approx 1200 calories). Figuring out how to be satisfied and functional at 1200 is a challenge I wanted to see if I could meet. And, it's satisfying in it's own way when I have 0 net calories for the day (only 1-2 times a week, but still). And yes, I know that is only because MFP overestimates calories burned...
Thank you for expressing your concern in a respectful way. I do appreciate it... 0 -
I would love for you to post a link to any authority that claims that. Not someone with 7000 posts, an actual authority. In reference to people with excess fat to lose, not concentration camp victims.Turning_Hopes_to_Habits wrote: »Is there any evidence that the majority of people on 1200 calorie diets lose hair, feel weak, etc.? I would find that surprising, but am totally open to finding out I'm wrong. Better to be factually correct than to keep on wrongly thinking you are.
I know a long time ago I heard about a study saying that the government had determined that sedentary people needed 800 calories or so a day to maintain minimum health standards, but that was a long time ago and the research could be out of date.
Concentration camp prisoners ate around 900-1000 calories day. Unless you are less then 5 feet tall, no one should be doing 1200 calories, except medical issues.
If someone is actually eating 1200, they're going to lose so they don't need to keep reducing. And if they do, they do. If you don't lose at 1200 over time, you're not going to suddenly eject all your hair and burn your heart out at 1100. And people who eat 1500 can decide to reduce to 700, too. It's not relevant.
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Turning_Hopes_to_Habits wrote: »I can't get on board with someone deciding that her priorities and objectives and choices are the best ones for everyone, end of story.
Some people prefer to lose faster; they'd rather have fewer daily calories and see faster results.
Not everyone is miserable on fewer calories per day.
And some people prefer to do less exercise and eat less. So many people act like getting more food is worth any exercise sacrifice. Some people don't have the goal to be in optimum health, they just want to fit into a certain size clothing.
Just for fair disclosure, I personally could not sustain 1200 calories a day over time (I'm find going under during the few days a month I lose my appetite), and I enjoy my exercise and getting stronger. So I'm not defending myself so much as people's right to choose what works for them without being told they are WRONG, all WRONG, you know?
So let's say someone is doing 1200 calories, they stop losing, so they dropped their calories even more, let's say 1000 calories, then it happens again, so drop it again to 700 calories, do you see the problem. If they were eating more calories they would have some wiggle room when they need to drop their calories down, especially down near their goal weight. Just to add, how about hair loss, muscle, you know that your heart is a muscle right? Just saying...
Wait what!?? So if I want to maintain it'll have to be at 1200?
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I took it to mean that he is, like me, a person who does not want to spend one more minute on the road than necessary. Hurry up, pee, get back on the road, fast-fast-fast, we are losing time!Why does the husband get to decide the parameters of the trip? Make some changes. No, we aren't stopping to see the World's Biggest Horse Statue. No, you can eat in the car. No, we aren't stopping to ride a rollercoaster...or buy your cheap cigarettes...or see if Pepsi gives tours of the plant..or to see an antebellum home. No, no, no. Hurry, move, let's go!
We are the people who turn three day trips into two day trips. We turn 23 hours into 18.
We cannot be argued with.
We also do most of, if not all, of the driving.
Meh. Adults treating other adults like children should expect the incoming tantrum or an unpleasant reminder of the other being an adult too. (Not aimed directly at you, but unless I'm part of a tour bus, there's room for compromise. I don't need to be herded.)
I can see some compromise, but it needs to be planned out now and not on the fly. Personally, this is why I do road trips solo. And I can do road trips. My first one this year was about 6k miles in 10 days. During that trip, I hiked 63 miles, spent time seeing historical sites, stopped for an oil change, and even spent a night camping out in the backcountry.
My 2nd one this year (which was about a month ago) was about 5k miles in 10 days, included hiking, historical sites, and a relative's wedding half-way accross the country on Sat. night (I had to be back at work more than 1,200 miles away by Mon. morning).
With that said, I plan my trips to the minute. There is some flexibility that if something goes wrong and takes too much time, I can cut down on time elsewhere. But I do all of my own driving and I like to maximize my time, so that is what happens.
With that said, there can be some compromise, but it really needs to be planned now rather than later. That compromise may be that you bring snacks and then eat only 1 meal of fast food (go to Subway, get a salad for low calories). Honestly, 20 hours is not terribly long and if you bring low calorie-density snacks (pickles, celery, carrots), water, and something to keep you occupied (book, electronic game, etc.); then you will be alright.
The thing that will probably cause the biggest time loss, IMO, is having to stop to pee. I don't know about you, but my car can go further on a tank than my bladder can (5 hours on a tank of gas, based on average speed of 65 mph). If you have time, consider a Stadium Buddy. Otherwise, you will be stopping more than you realize so keep those stops short and pack snacks.0
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