High-fruit Diet: Good or bad?
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I believe you can almost any food in moderation. I was told by my nutritionist to keep fruit down to 4 servings a day and try to eat the fruit with the most fiber
Apples
Avocado
Bananas
Berries -- Blueberies, Blackberries, Raspberries, etc.
Dried Fruits -- Figs, Raisins, Apricots, Dates, etc.
Guava
Kiwi
Orange
Pears
Prunes
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when i was trying to lose weight a long time ago I saw a well known nutritionist in toronto who told me to limit my fruit intake to 2 pieces a day. Something about it producing insulin and insulin hoards fat. I also used to see a lot of weight loss stories from a while back (ie Richard Simmons days) when they would get overweight people to eat a lot of fruit. Today they strictly limit the fruit
More people who just have the wrong idea about insulin and the daily cycles we go through. No one takes caloric deficit into consideration.
of course caloric deficit is taken into consideration. Lost 30lbs, can't do that without a deficit0 -
It seems everything I love to eat is a no-no!!0
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christinev297 wrote: »It seems everything I love to eat is a no-no!!
I wouldn't call it a no-no. I eat an apple every day. you know what they say. They didn't say 10 apples a day0 -
The only thing I can think of that no ones mentioned is, just make sure you're looking after your teeth. Citric acid + sugar
I can't be bothered with all the insulin nonsense that gets thrown about here, as long as you've no underlying health issues, I think it'd be pretty much impossible to eat enough fruit for it to be bad for you. If you enjoy it and it fits your calories/macros, go for it.0 -
when i was trying to lose weight a long time ago I saw a well known nutritionist in toronto who told me to limit my fruit intake to 2 pieces a day. Something about it producing insulin and insulin hoards fat. I also used to see a lot of weight loss stories from a while back (ie Richard Simmons days) when they would get overweight people to eat a lot of fruit. Today they strictly limit the fruit
That's only if you have a metabolic condition, insulin resistance, or diabetes where insulin isn't used efficiently.0 -
FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »when i was trying to lose weight a long time ago I saw a well known nutritionist in toronto who told me to limit my fruit intake to 2 pieces a day. Something about it producing insulin and insulin hoards fat. I also used to see a lot of weight loss stories from a while back (ie Richard Simmons days) when they would get overweight people to eat a lot of fruit. Today they strictly limit the fruit
That's only if you have a metabolic condition, insulin resistance, or diabetes where insulin isn't used efficiently.
sounds fair, like I said the info i had was a long time ago, in a galaxy far far away0 -
emileesgram wrote: »I believe you can almost any food in moderation. I was told by my nutritionist to keep fruit down to 4 servings a day and try to eat the fruit with the most fiber
Apples
Avocado
Bananas
Berries -- Blueberies, Blackberries, Raspberries, etc.
Dried Fruits -- Figs, Raisins, Apricots, Dates, etc.
Guava
Kiwi
Orange
Pears
Prunes
ok so I am not the only person being told by a nutritionist to keep fruit intake down. If it is not insulin, then what is the reason?0 -
emileesgram wrote: »I believe you can almost any food in moderation. I was told by my nutritionist to keep fruit down to 4 servings a day and try to eat the fruit with the most fiber
Apples
Avocado
Bananas
Berries -- Blueberies, Blackberries, Raspberries, etc.
Dried Fruits -- Figs, Raisins, Apricots, Dates, etc.
Guava
Kiwi
Orange
Pears
Prunes
ok so I am not the only person being told by a nutritionist to keep fruit intake down. If it is not insulin, then what is the reason?
Nutrition seems to be really opinionated, even with the experts. Yes, there is an amount of fruit that is too much. But you'd almost have to do gorge on purpose to eat that much fruit, Imo0 -
A friend of mine used to continuously eat fruit. He always had a piece of fruit in his hand! He was a skinny Minnie! !0
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auntchellebelle wrote: »I am trying to lose weight and I was just told to stay away from fruit all together. I don't like that comment because I love fruit. I thought there was a difference between "natural" sugar and "junk" sugar? I am at a loss.
Whoever told you to stay away from fruit doesn't know what the hell they are talking about. Monitor your calories, get good with your micros, eat enough protein, and work out. Enjoy your fruit!0 -
tannatannabobanna wrote: »tannatannabobanna wrote: »auntchellebelle wrote: »I am trying to lose weight and I was just told to stay away from fruit all together. I don't like that comment because I love fruit. I thought there was a difference between "natural" sugar and "junk" sugar? I am at a loss.
Sure, there is a difference, but not for weight loss. At the end of the day sugar is sugar when trying to loose weight. Fructose, dextrose, w/e. To lose weight you must be at a caloric deficit. If you can fit fruit into your caloric intake for the day then sure. However, it is a large amount of sugar it will spike blood sugar, which will force your body to produce insulin, and eventually store fat. So its a catch 22. Just stay away during weight loss.
Staying away from fruit isn't necessary on a cut. As far as fat storing goes, it happens throughout the day, we have peaks and valleys. Valleys> Peaks is where it's at.
In a deficit energy will be used regardless.
http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319
That sounds nice, however that is not how insulin works: http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/cellular-microscopic/fat-cell2.htm
A large amount of fruit will spike blood glucose levels. It is sugar regardless. This in cause and effect will cause a degree of fat storage. This is why fruit is avoided for athletes and bodybuilders cutting for competition.
To conclude. Some is fine yes, higher fiber fruits apples, kiwis etc in moderation 1 serving a day post exercise. There is no reason for excess.
You store and use fat constantly. What matters is you aren't going to add fat (and will end up with a net loss of fat) so long as you are in a deficit.
Also, insulin spikes aren't a concern for anyone who doesn't have some sort of health issue and is unlikely to be a big thing unless you eat lots of fruit on its own (and even then I personally never experience any kind of blood sugar effect from fruit--too much fiber).
If people avoid fruit, it's either because they are superstitious or, more reasonably, because they are being conscious of its calories and, perhaps, are trying to keep calories really low. If you are at maintenance every day and eat an additional banana and an apple you will gain, but not because fruit is any worse for weight loss than any other food. Indeed, many people find it quite satisfying, which makes it good for weight loss for them.0 -
The only thing I can think of that no ones mentioned is, just make sure you're looking after your teeth. Citric acid + sugar
I can't be bothered with all the insulin nonsense that gets thrown about here, as long as you've no underlying health issues, I think it'd be pretty much impossible to eat enough fruit for it to be bad for you. If you enjoy it and it fits your calories/macros, go for it.
^^this.
Enjoy your fruit and don't be concerned about the insulin/fructose alarmism.
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