My routine with weights
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If your squat is just barely over your bench, then no - 3x squat each week is not too much. Not unless you bench an insane amount, which 200 at your current weight is not.
Seriously. Starting Strength, for your goals - which is what SS suggested. Good strength gains, minimal chance of overtraining (if you follow the program properly), and a good balance.
Hi TR
I did not make myself clear :-) Would be just doing squats every 9 day 1st session ....predominately squats (2 full days off) 2nd session .. predom Bench press(2 full days off) 3rd session(2 full days off)..
Been thinking about this and might try this... squats(predom)
All body(no legs or little)
Deadlift(predom)
All Body(no legs)...... and so on
All body would probably be Chest(bench) and shoulders(military press) for example with a few more... Back( pull downs)0 -
sounds ineffective, and with too much rest time baked in.
run it for 6 months and track gains.0 -
I have no idea what you're trying to ask.
Follow a real program. One that's proven, such as StrongLifts, Starting Strength, or 5/3/1.0 -
Also, the following is not clear.grumpygit1962 wrote: »I did not make myself clear :-)Would be just doing squats every 9 day 1st session ....predominately squats (2 full days off) 2nd session .. predom Bench press(2 full days off) 3rd session(2 full days off)..
Been thinking about this and might try this... squats(predom)
All body(no legs or little)
Deadlift(predom)
All Body(no legs)...... and so on
All body would probably be Chest(bench) and shoulders(military press) for example with a few more... Back( pull downs)
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Also, the following is not clear.grumpygit1962 wrote: »I did not make myself clear :-)Would be just doing squats every 9 day 1st session ....predominately squats (2 full days off) 2nd session .. predom Bench press(2 full days off) 3rd session(2 full days off)..
Been thinking about this and might try this... squats(predom)
All body(no legs or little)
Deadlift(predom)
All Body(no legs)...... and so on
All body would probably be Chest(bench) and shoulders(military press) for example with a few more... Back( pull downs)
Yes ok ..if you say so :-)
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also all body but no legs ?? What does that even mean?/
you realize the bulk of your body is your legs right??!?!?
moving past that rubbish:
explain to us why
"follow a pre-set program"
is apparently an unacceptable answer? Because it's what you need. And that's all anyone here is going to honestly suggest to you.0 -
also all body but no legs ?? What does that even mean?/
you realize the bulk of your body is your legs right??!?!?
moving past that rubbish:
explain to us why
"follow a pre-set program"
is apparently an unacceptable answer? Because it's what you need. And that's all anyone here is going to honestly suggest to you.
I already suggested to him that he run whatever his predom program he cooked up was for 6 months and record progress. He'll quickly stall, and come back upset that nothing worked. Then he may look at a proven program then.
I've given up trying to decode his posts, that last one crossed my eyes.0 -
Yeah- I tried reading it 3 times and gave up- I couldn't get past the 'predominately squats" followed by all body- no legs.0
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okay.
explain to us why
"follow a pre-set program"
is apparently an unacceptable answer? Because it's what you need. And that's all anyone here is going to honestly suggest to you.
No it is not bad or good advice at all
Have taken advice all my life(40 years) some very good and some very bad and a lot ok.
The advice I have been given over the years I am now using... THE SET PROGRAMS TRAINERS HAVE GIVEN ME.
As someone who is more interested in cardio fitness, the strength training with weights is just something I am incorporating.
And here is a little advice you probably will not take, don't assume "experts" are giving you good advice. I once was told from one of the best welterweight boxers in the country who trained me to shed weight from dehydration.. i.e drink little water after each training session.0 -
Now I'm really confused. Ok, I'm not, really. We see this all the time here on MFP.
If you don't want our advice, why did you ask in the first place?0 -
You asked- and we are trying to help.
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And you're making it practically impossible to do so.As someone who is more interested in cardio fitness, the strength training with weights is just something I am incorporating.
do starting strength or strong lifts- or wendlers.
seriously- they are easy and straight forward.0 -
So he has someone to complain about when he fails.Now I'm really confused. Ok, I'm not, really. We see this all the time here on MFP.
If you don't want our advice, why did you ask in the first place?
What he should really do is either run his "amazing program", get some training, or follow a pre-made and knock off his whinging.
We shall see what happens.
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grumpygit1962 wrote: »
Yes, you are getting upset and violating forum rules over nothing. You created a situation that upset you and now you are lashing out.
If you had clearly communicated in the first place, you wouldn't have created a situation where you are expecting people to be nostradamus, then getting upset over what is essentially nothing but complications you created.
When you know what you want to do, there's a lot of folks here with knowledge and the kindness to offer advice. Frankly though, we gotta know what you want first, without all the acting out.0 -
personally think you'd be better off combining all three and doing it 2-3 days a week.0
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No you don't. Two examples of you doing the opposite in this thread alone. Not only that, but acting in an untoward way that you wouldn't in a face to face situation. You're acting out.grumpygit1962 wrote: »I genuinely thank anyone that shares their help or wisdom with me, but not always will I agree.
The deadlift isn't the king of lifts, everyone knows that. We all do know it's a great lift though, and when paired with squats activates some excellent hormone signally needed to maximize growth potential.
Sounds like you have some projections you gotta figure out. Along with your training, because from what can be discerned from what you have posted, you plan is at best inefficient, and worst ineffective. Of course, I can see the writing on the wall, anyone who doesn't validate you is "damaged". So there we go, run it for 6 months, and track your progress. That's the only way you'll know how right or, more likely, how wrong you are.
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grumpygit1962 wrote: »
Who is to say your advice is worth anything??
dude. why did you even bother asking then?
while I appreciate anyone who served their country- it doesn't make you an expert on weight lifting.Quote also where I said I had an "amazing program"... I constantly dabble and experiment, I run and boxed for my country and country, what did you ever do d**khead
clearly.
and it doesn't give you more validity or right to call people names.
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Ah yes, "I served my country, so what do you know," the fall back of someone who has no defensible position.
Also since the op ain't American, who cares.0 -
No_Finish_Line wrote: »personally think you'd be better off combining all three and doing it 2-3 days a week.
Thanks NFL
I really an taking on board what you all(minus a few trolls) are saying, and have made tweeks(more than tweeks) on that basis of what I have already read. What I hate is when people say "you must" or "You should" take our advice because we do know best.0 -
grumpygit1962 wrote: »
Yes, you are getting upset and violating forum rules over nothing. You created a situation that upset you and now you are lashing out.
If you had clearly communicated in the first place, you wouldn't have created a situation where you are expecting people to be nostradamus, then getting upset over what is essentially nothing but complications you created.
When you know what you want to do, there's a lot of folks here with knowledge and the kindness to offer advice. Frankly though, we gotta know what you want first, without all the acting out.
JUST GO AWAY LOL LOL
Do you not understand that I do not value a thing that you are saying... why continue??
Go and save someone else and stop trying to be my mentor .. lol lol
Yes there are some amazing knowlegeable people on here mate, you are not one of them... BYE0 -
grumpygit1962 wrote: »grumpygit1962 wrote: »
Yes, you are getting upset and violating forum rules over nothing. You created a situation that upset you and now you are lashing out.
If you had clearly communicated in the first place, you wouldn't have created a situation where you are expecting people to be nostradamus, then getting upset over what is essentially nothing but complications you created.
When you know what you want to do, there's a lot of folks here with knowledge and the kindness to offer advice. Frankly though, we gotta know what you want first, without all the acting out.
JUST GO AWAY LOL LOL
Do you not understand that I do not value a thing that you are saying... why continue??
Go and save someone else and stop trying to be my mentor .. lol lol
I'm curious to see how you fail.
Or succeed. I think though, based on the way you communicate, it will be the former and not the latter.0 -
It is just amazing :-)
Why do you bother?
Go and share your wisdom somewhere else, just because you post 10,000 plus posts on a internet forum does not make you an expert...No please go away0 -
while I appreciate anyone who served their country- it doesn't make you an expert on weight lifting.
clearly.
Yes. I agree totally??0 -
grumpygit1962 wrote: »while I appreciate anyone who served their country- it doesn't make you an expert on weight lifting.
clearly.
Yes. I agree totally??
what specifically are you asking?0 -
grumpygit1962 wrote: »It is just amazing :-)
Why do you bother?
Go and share your wisdom somewhere else, just because you post 10,000 plus posts on a internet forum does not make you an expert...No please go away
and your "40 years" of flailing around in the gym doesn't mean you are able to build your own program. Which is why we see that horrid thing you wrote up and suggest something better.
You're too invested in your terrible program to see beyond it, so do it, see how good it does for you. Then try a proven program and see how much more efficient and successful you *could* have been. It's just time, and at your age, you have many decades to go.0 -
grumpygit1962 wrote: »It is just amazing :-)
Why do you bother?
Go and share your wisdom somewhere else, just because you post 10,000 plus posts on a internet forum does not make you an expert...No please go away
and your "40 years" of flailing around in the gym doesn't mean you are able to build your own program. Which is why we see that horrid thing you wrote up and suggest something better.
You're too invested in your terrible program to see beyond it, so do it, see how good it does for you. Then try a proven program and see how much more efficient and successful you *could* have been. It's just time, and at your age, you have many decades to go.
I am listening to other people, and from on here, I am learning all the time from all different corners. But yet again(as YOU do not seem to be listening) I am not intereted in anything you have to say(at the moment) or to anyone so over sensitive when I call a bicep curl a piddly exercise(done millions by the way).
Have you got nothing better to do, please just GO ... lol lol
You really are behaving like the classic sterotypical troll
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Dude, you're trying to reinvent the wheel, which is both unnecessary and really inefficient (given your own admission that you don't have a lot of lifting experience). Find a good beginner program and run that for 6 months.0
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DvlDwnInGA wrote: »I have already gave my suggestion. 3 day full body routine, and then some cardio on your off days. Compound movements using nothing but a barbell. That is the type of routine I am on, it takes 40-45 minutes from start to finish, and it is working great for me. It includes, squats, bench press, bent rows, SLDL, calf raises, Standing overhead press, and Barbell curls. I do that 3 days a week. Split in heavy, medium, and light weight days. I have also added Lat pulls to this routine. You can put those in there or pull ups. As I said though, I am following a proven program that thousands, if not 10s of thousands have followed and had success with. That is why I and others here have suggested finding a routine that is made by professionals and following it.
Good luck with which ever direction you decide to go.
Thanks Dvl
Asked the instructor at the gym I use this week, also highly rec's that system..0
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