Fat boy syndrome.
mustgetmuscles1
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Former fat boy syndrome. 
Seriously I have been struggling with gaining weight (fat) for the 2.5 years since I lost 50lbs. Last January I was up 10 pounds from my lowest. This was a mixture of bulking and cutting while logging my food as accurately as I could. A year later I am up another 10 pounds and this was without logging my food and no real cuts. This is probably one of the hardest things I have ever done. The workouts were easy compared to making myself stick to the plan of gaining weight. I wasnt always in a surplus but I tried to eat based on hunger. So many times I wanted to start cutting because of the fluffiness.
I am happy with the progress but I am definitely ready to start cutting and see how much of this weight is actually muscle. I am hoping about half. I know 10 pounds of muscle in 2.5 years does not sound like a lot but struggling with the idea of fat gain really slowed me down.
Seriously I have been struggling with gaining weight (fat) for the 2.5 years since I lost 50lbs. Last January I was up 10 pounds from my lowest. This was a mixture of bulking and cutting while logging my food as accurately as I could. A year later I am up another 10 pounds and this was without logging my food and no real cuts. This is probably one of the hardest things I have ever done. The workouts were easy compared to making myself stick to the plan of gaining weight. I wasnt always in a surplus but I tried to eat based on hunger. So many times I wanted to start cutting because of the fluffiness. I am happy with the progress but I am definitely ready to start cutting and see how much of this weight is actually muscle. I am hoping about half. I know 10 pounds of muscle in 2.5 years does not sound like a lot but struggling with the idea of fat gain really slowed me down.
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great pics, I am only cutting now, not really looking forward to bulking but I will need to do it. I struggle eating enough food during my cutting phase. Take a look at my diary if you like to see if it is similar to what you were doing. I am going to 8% BF. where were you at @ 160?0
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Amazing work!! Can't believe the difference in 180 and 180, great stuff 0
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10lbs of muscle in 2.5 years is actually really good. (will depend on experience)
My 2 year dexa scan had an extra 8lbs of muscle and I've been training properly for 5-6 years.
Oh and I totally understand the psychological challenge. FFB here too and as I'm now the heaviest I've been since I was 25+% BF it does seem strange but just have to trust the process and realize that it takes time.
Great transformation mate.0 -
that jason guy should see these pics...0
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Great work and impressive results! I'm just getting started with gaining after a rapid 45lb loss (only lost a bit of LBM thankfully). You are right that it's a hard thing mentally but after about 3 months now I'm starting to get the hang of it.
Seeing these results should inspire a lot of people who are in the same boat and are afraid of bulking after weight loss.0 -
ForecasterJason wrote: »
yes, you…
Please take note of the changes and stop being afraid to gain weight.0 -
Thanks guys. The pictures show a big difference between weights but I can tell you it doesnt always feel that way. Thats why I posted this in this section. I never got super lean to begin with but letting go of any of it is not easy. Some people seem to be able to put on some muscle without adding fat but I did not find it possible for me. At least the process was so slow I didnt think it was working.
"Trust the process" is great advice but it just not easy day after day. "Stop being afraid to gain weight" is great advice also but I did not find that an easy decision to stick to. A lot of people have a hard time with this and I am glad its common enough to have a name.
This is only a hobby for me so its not a huge deal or anything but its not really talked about very often.0 -
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How tall are you and about how much were your calories when you lost the weight? I'm struggling to try to get to a position where I can try to get results like this. I basically keep hitting a wall at around 225lbs. Just trying to get a grasp on how little I actually have to eat to lose more.
5'10" My maintenance NET calories are about 2000. I used the myfitnesspal model to lose my weight so I ate back my workout calories. Non workout days were around 1600 and workout days were around 2100.
The weight loss was not linear though. The first 25lbs came off pretty fast and the last 25 took forever. It took me a whole year to lose the first 50lbs. Which averages a little less than a pound per week loss. But that is not how it came off. The last 10 pounds took a few month.
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Thanks. I guess maybe I'll try similar numbers. I'm 5'11". Those numbers just seem so much less than other guys, and some women, brag about eating.mustgetmuscles1 wrote: »How tall are you and about how much were your calories when you lost the weight? I'm struggling to try to get to a position where I can try to get results like this. I basically keep hitting a wall at around 225lbs. Just trying to get a grasp on how little I actually have to eat to lose more.
5'10" My maintenance NET calories are about 2000. I used the myfitnesspal model to lose my weight so I ate back my workout calories. Non workout days were around 1600 and workout days were around 2100.
The weight loss was not linear though. The first 25lbs came off pretty fast and the last 25 took forever. It took me a whole year to lose the first 50lbs. Which averages a little less than a pound per week loss. But that is not how it came off. The last 10 pounds took a few month.
I hear ya. I see so many people talking about how many calories they are eating and still losing. Tiny women eating hundreds of more calories than me when I am bulking. I wish I had kind of problem.
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mustgetmuscles1 wrote: »How tall are you and about how much were your calories when you lost the weight? I'm struggling to try to get to a position where I can try to get results like this. I basically keep hitting a wall at around 225lbs. Just trying to get a grasp on how little I actually have to eat to lose more.
5'10" My maintenance NET calories are about 2000. I used the myfitnesspal model to lose my weight so I ate back my workout calories. Non workout days were around 1600 and workout days were around 2100.
The weight loss was not linear though. The first 25lbs came off pretty fast and the last 25 took forever. It took me a whole year to lose the first 50lbs. Which averages a little less than a pound per week loss. But that is not how it came off. The last 10 pounds took a few month.
Christ!
Do you have a sedentary job? I'm only 2" taller than you and I maintain on 2800....
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SteveJWatson wrote: »mustgetmuscles1 wrote: »How tall are you and about how much were your calories when you lost the weight? I'm struggling to try to get to a position where I can try to get results like this. I basically keep hitting a wall at around 225lbs. Just trying to get a grasp on how little I actually have to eat to lose more.
5'10" My maintenance NET calories are about 2000. I used the myfitnesspal model to lose my weight so I ate back my workout calories. Non workout days were around 1600 and workout days were around 2100.
The weight loss was not linear though. The first 25lbs came off pretty fast and the last 25 took forever. It took me a whole year to lose the first 50lbs. Which averages a little less than a pound per week loss. But that is not how it came off. The last 10 pounds took a few month.
Christ!
Do you have a sedentary job? I'm only 2" taller than you and I maintain on 2800....
Pretty sedentary beside workouts and hobbies on weekends. Netting 2000 is right at average for a male my height. Workout days I would eat around 2500. So to average total calories over the week would be about 2300 per day to maintain. I dont think that is too far off.0 -
Oh man, I feel sorry for you. Seems like fast and slow average metabolisms really do exist. I'm pretty sure I have to eat at least 2300 to gain anything and yet I'm 60 pounds lighter and just as sedentary. Calculators would suggest the difference between our calorie needs should be a lot higher.mustgetmuscles1 wrote: »SteveJWatson wrote: »mustgetmuscles1 wrote: »How tall are you and about how much were your calories when you lost the weight? I'm struggling to try to get to a position where I can try to get results like this. I basically keep hitting a wall at around 225lbs. Just trying to get a grasp on how little I actually have to eat to lose more.
5'10" My maintenance NET calories are about 2000. I used the myfitnesspal model to lose my weight so I ate back my workout calories. Non workout days were around 1600 and workout days were around 2100.
The weight loss was not linear though. The first 25lbs came off pretty fast and the last 25 took forever. It took me a whole year to lose the first 50lbs. Which averages a little less than a pound per week loss. But that is not how it came off. The last 10 pounds took a few month.
Christ!
Do you have a sedentary job? I'm only 2" taller than you and I maintain on 2800....
Pretty sedentary beside workouts and hobbies on weekends. Netting 2000 is right at average for a male my height. Workout days I would eat around 2500. So to average total calories over the week would be about 2300 per day to maintain. I dont think that is too far off.
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mustgetmuscles1 wrote: »SteveJWatson wrote: »mustgetmuscles1 wrote: »How tall are you and about how much were your calories when you lost the weight? I'm struggling to try to get to a position where I can try to get results like this. I basically keep hitting a wall at around 225lbs. Just trying to get a grasp on how little I actually have to eat to lose more.
5'10" My maintenance NET calories are about 2000. I used the myfitnesspal model to lose my weight so I ate back my workout calories. Non workout days were around 1600 and workout days were around 2100.
The weight loss was not linear though. The first 25lbs came off pretty fast and the last 25 took forever. It took me a whole year to lose the first 50lbs. Which averages a little less than a pound per week loss. But that is not how it came off. The last 10 pounds took a few month.
Christ!
Do you have a sedentary job? I'm only 2" taller than you and I maintain on 2800....
Pretty sedentary beside workouts and hobbies on weekends. Netting 2000 is right at average for a male my height. Workout days I would eat around 2500. So to average total calories over the week would be about 2300 per day to maintain. I dont think that is too far off.
Yeah - I am 5'9" with a decent but not pronounced muscular base, and I maintain somewhere right around 2300 with lifting for 3 - 4 hours per week. I really envy the 2800 - 3000+ maintainers.
ETA: Great results!0 -
Looking great man!!! I could help you with a meal plan if you want to bulk a bit more.-2
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Holy hell, that's awesome.0
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great pics, I am only cutting now, not really looking forward to bulking but I will need to do it. I struggle eating enough food during my cutting phase. Take a look at my diary if you like to see if it is similar to what you were doing. I am going to 8% BF. where were you at @ 160?
I am estimating I was around 12-15% when I was at 160.
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Nice work, look great0
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mustgetmuscles1 wrote: »How tall are you and about how much were your calories when you lost the weight? I'm struggling to try to get to a position where I can try to get results like this. I basically keep hitting a wall at around 225lbs. Just trying to get a grasp on how little I actually have to eat to lose more.
5'10" My maintenance NET calories are about 2000. I used the myfitnesspal model to lose my weight so I ate back my workout calories. Non workout days were around 1600 and workout days were around 2100.
The weight loss was not linear though. The first 25lbs came off pretty fast and the last 25 took forever. It took me a whole year to lose the first 50lbs. Which averages a little less than a pound per week loss. But that is not how it came off. The last 10 pounds took a few month.
My maintenance is net 1950 at 155 lbs so that does seem low, but if it works it works.0 -
mustgetmuscles1 wrote: »SteveJWatson wrote: »mustgetmuscles1 wrote: »How tall are you and about how much were your calories when you lost the weight? I'm struggling to try to get to a position where I can try to get results like this. I basically keep hitting a wall at around 225lbs. Just trying to get a grasp on how little I actually have to eat to lose more.
5'10" My maintenance NET calories are about 2000. I used the myfitnesspal model to lose my weight so I ate back my workout calories. Non workout days were around 1600 and workout days were around 2100.
The weight loss was not linear though. The first 25lbs came off pretty fast and the last 25 took forever. It took me a whole year to lose the first 50lbs. Which averages a little less than a pound per week loss. But that is not how it came off. The last 10 pounds took a few month.
Christ!
Do you have a sedentary job? I'm only 2" taller than you and I maintain on 2800....
Pretty sedentary beside workouts and hobbies on weekends. Netting 2000 is right at average for a male my height. Workout days I would eat around 2500. So to average total calories over the week would be about 2300 per day to maintain. I dont think that is too far off.
Yeah - I am 5'9" with a decent but not pronounced muscular base, and I maintain somewhere right around 2300 with lifting for 3 - 4 hours per week. I really envy the 2800 - 3000+ maintainers.
ETA: Great results!
I have a formula for being a 2800 maintainer it's called "work your *kitten* off on a farm"...;)
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »mustgetmuscles1 wrote: »How tall are you and about how much were your calories when you lost the weight? I'm struggling to try to get to a position where I can try to get results like this. I basically keep hitting a wall at around 225lbs. Just trying to get a grasp on how little I actually have to eat to lose more.
5'10" My maintenance NET calories are about 2000. I used the myfitnesspal model to lose my weight so I ate back my workout calories. Non workout days were around 1600 and workout days were around 2100.
The weight loss was not linear though. The first 25lbs came off pretty fast and the last 25 took forever. It took me a whole year to lose the first 50lbs. Which averages a little less than a pound per week loss. But that is not how it came off. The last 10 pounds took a few month.
My maintenance is net 1950 at 155 lbs so that does seem low, but if it works it works.
I dont think that is that far off actually. It is estimated that an additional pound of muscle burns 5ish more calories per day. So if the difference in our weights was all muscle, which it isnt, that would be 125 calories more per day. Easily within our margins of error.
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mustgetmuscles1 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »mustgetmuscles1 wrote: »How tall are you and about how much were your calories when you lost the weight? I'm struggling to try to get to a position where I can try to get results like this. I basically keep hitting a wall at around 225lbs. Just trying to get a grasp on how little I actually have to eat to lose more.
5'10" My maintenance NET calories are about 2000. I used the myfitnesspal model to lose my weight so I ate back my workout calories. Non workout days were around 1600 and workout days were around 2100.
The weight loss was not linear though. The first 25lbs came off pretty fast and the last 25 took forever. It took me a whole year to lose the first 50lbs. Which averages a little less than a pound per week loss. But that is not how it came off. The last 10 pounds took a few month.
My maintenance is net 1950 at 155 lbs so that does seem low, but if it works it works.
I dont think that is that far off actually. It is estimated that an additional pound of muscle burns 5ish more calories per day. So if all of my weight over yours was muscle, which it isnt, that would be 125 caloires more per day. Easily within our margins of error.
That's true, I go off my Fitbit for the most part anyway and it seems to be pretty accurate.
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Wow you look great. Agree the change at 180 and 170 is stunning...try to shake that fat boy syndrome as you are so far removed from that now. Great work and great effort/commitment...0
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