Calories burned from lifting?

boredlimodriver

I'd wondered before - it could be used to judge performance, as well as perhaps as a 'lie detector' to see if your partner was really as excited as they appeared to be .

Our baby gate acts as my lie detector...if I cant get over it then I really was excited good old shakey legs!!

shaky legs or something hitting the gate as you step over... oh nevermind

BrunetteRunner87

I don't think it works for lifting. The HRM calculates how hard you are working based on your heart rate, and while you're doing cardio, you're continuously working. But when you're lifting weights, you're working for a minute, and then resting a minute, then working a minute. But your heart rate is still up during your rest minute, even though you're not really moving. So the HRM thinks you're working during that amount of time even if you're not.

Edited to say it's still a good tool to use while lifting to see how high your heart rate actually goes, and you can measure your progress over time, but it's not accurate for calorie burns.

Azdak

I don't think it works for lifting. The HRM calculates how hard you are working based on your heart rate, and while you're doing cardio, you're continuously working. But when you're lifting weights, you're working for a minute, and then resting a minute, then working a minute. But your heart rate is still up during your rest minute, even though you're not really moving. So the HRM thinks you're working during that amount of time even if you're not.

Edited to say it's still a good tool to use while lifting to see how high your heart rate actually goes, and you can measure your progress over time, but it's not accurate for calorie burns.

Again: in most cases, it's not accurate for measuring "progress" either. What kind of progress are you actually looking for when you lift weights? Isn't it, you know, lifting heavier weights? And if you are lifting heavy weights, heart rate doesn't provide any insight into how you are re synthesizing ATP-CP stores. The fact that heart rate may not go up as high during strength training is not indicative of any "progress" in either strength levels or aerobic fitness. It's just a normal physical adaptation for someone starting a routine--kind of like learning to grip the bar better.

pcastagner

I don't think it works for lifting. The HRM calculates how hard you are working based on your heart rate, and while you're doing cardio, you're continuously working. But when you're lifting weights, you're working for a minute, and then resting a minute, then working a minute. But your heart rate is still up during your rest minute, even though you're not really moving. So the HRM thinks you're working during that amount of time even if you're not.

Edited to say it's still a good tool to use while lifting to see how high your heart rate actually goes, and you can measure your progress over time, but it's not accurate for calorie burns.

Again: in most cases, it's not accurate for measuring "progress" either. What kind of progress are you actually looking for when you lift weights? Isn't it, you know, lifting heavier weights? And if you are lifting heavy weights, heart rate doesn't provide any insight into how you are re synthesizing ATP-CP stores. The fact that heart rate may not go up as high during strength training is not indicative of any "progress" in either strength levels or aerobic fitness. It's just a normal physical adaptation for someone starting a routine--kind of like learning to grip the bar better.

Ummm... Recovery time. The most important quantifiable indicator of being in a good condition, IMO. It's really important to me as an opera singer who wants to be able to do something physical, then the next moment sing with exquisite breath control. When I started, my heart rate would take minutes to go from 190 to 145 after jumping squats. Now, it maxes out at 180, and within a minute it is in the 110-120 range. That's real progress. That's progress that affects how well I can do my job, make love, and that changes my behavior in subtle ways (things that used to seem like a waste of energy now look like fun). When I do a move my body isn't used to, recovery time is longer. No, I don't do jumping squats on stage, but I still might do something that increases my heart rate, and recovering faster means I have more control, more resources for expression.


My HRM shows me my recovery time. It's a big deal.


I also, frankly, have always lost as predicted, gained as predicted, or maintained as predicted by using the calories burned minus bmr from my monitor. Surely this is not because the hrm is accurate about what I burn in a lifting session, but the real life result is I eat more on workout days, less on rest days. So in effect, I am calorie cycling. If this trend doesn't continue I will revise. It probably helps that I don't like to sit around and am more likely hitting an opposing muscle group or doing mobility work between sets. It probably helps that I tend to finish a workout with speed rope, and start it with a speed rope warmup. Who knows? Not me, and I don't really care. I just know what I'm doing is working for now and has been for six months.

I don't think anyone would argue I haven't been getting results. Common sense rule number one is, if it ain't broke don't fix it. When and if I stop making really awesome progress, I will change what I am doing. You can sigh all you want, laugh at my inaccurate calculations, but I'm sighing right back at you, because increasing accuracy beyond what is needed to keep progressing is a game of diminishing returns and a waste of time.

phjorg1

your heart rate has zero bearing on how recovered you are... to add yo this, there is exactly 0 good trainers who use hr in the fashion you describe. they are taught, and use, time... yes, time to determine recovery time. go figure.

geebusuk

So is there one study that says "4 calories per hour"? No. I used that number because it is representative of results I have seen for studies measuring EPOC (usually 130-170 total calories) and to make the point that people throw around the "elevated for 30+ hours" phrase uncritically. The benefits of resistance training are substantial--they don't need to be exaggerated for ideological purposes.

Ta.

I think I mentioned - I measured my RMR about 18 hours after doing weights. It came out at a little under 2400. An online calculator I just did put me a bit over 1600.
The same machine produced results that about matched expectations for other people.

At some point I will try and do multiple tests on myself everyday, recording what was done the previous day etc.

However, a 2400 RMR would be consistent with the amount I was easting while not putting weight on!

pcastagner

your heart rate has zero bearing on how recovered you are... to add yo this, there is exactly 0 good trainers who use hr in the fashion you describe. they are taught, and use, time... yes, time to determine recovery time. go figure.

I think you may have been so busy arguing there, you forgot to read what I actually wrote. Because I wasn't even talking about recovery time between sets. I was talking about how long it takes my heart rate to drop (or alternatively, how much it drops in a given period of time).

I rest 60 seconds or less between sets.

It would be helpful if you could follow up reading the first sentence of a reply with reading and comprehending the following sentences. And maybe even the quoted material. Recovery heart rate is an indicator of fitness. Period.