I ate 600 calories today and I was full. Help.
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It sounds like you need to look into planning your days a bit more. Do you usually plan ahead or do you 'wing' it, choosing meals spontaneously? From what you told us it seems like you're deliberately holding back on calories during breakfast and lunch and then end up with way too much left over for dinner. Try to plan ahead and add more cals to your meals, so you have less over at the end of the day. If you can't eat more in terms of mass, see if you can use other ingredients, i.e. wholemilk dairy, etc.0
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2 slices of a decent sized multigrain bread are 300 calories (your bread must be tiny and thin cut to be half of that)
butter - add 50 - and you can add mayo / mustard too
easy to add 100 for ham and 200 for cheese
add salad and avocado
and that's a sandwich for about your daily amount of calories
you appear to be on the I must deprive myself form of weight loss - you will crash and burn and you will be whimpering to yourself that you can't stick to diets
you've recognised the problem - good job
now do something about it
it's not difficult - you know what calorie dense foods are - you can get a lot of calories for a small amount of butter / peanut butter / cheese alongside a regular soda
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Based on my desired weight loss my calorie intake is approx 1300/1400 per day. I break my calories down 400 to 500 per meal for 3 meals a day or if I want smaller meals then 300 calories allowing me five meals. On top of that I exercise or at least walk every day. I have found when I do not exercise and am sitting around for most of the day my appetite is low, I have put this down to the fact that my body does not need as much energy so doesn't need food for fuel. Therefore for me exercise is an important part of getting fit and healthy not just physically but also mentally.
From what you have said you are eating it seems you are not getting enough nutrients. I am also wondering how if you are eating a ham and cheese sandwich that your calories are under 600 as two slices of multigrain bread are 170 calories on their own and if I had a slice of cheese that can be anything from 85 to 110 calories add ham if you butter your bread or add mayonnaise bringing it up to 350 to 450? Do you drink anything with your meal? I agree with others consider adding lettuce, tomato, onions, peppers etc to your sandwich. Also in my humble opinion I don't think that cheerios is a healthy breakfast however I know sometimes due to time constraints cereal might be better than nothing. I tend to go for Cornflakes but add some nuts to bulk it up.
Anyway these are some of the meals I eat on a day to day basis. I try to make sure I get a balanced diet of protein vitamins fat and carbs obviously more protein and vitamins than fat but its important to remember not all fat is bad and our bodies need it.
Beans on toast, a banana on toast or scrambled eggs on toast for breakfast. If I am in a hurry a fruit smoothie.
Lunches might be 50g of wholewheat pasta with prawns or chicken and veggies, or two small potatoes small piece of meat chicken or turkey breast and veg, veggie stir fry which you can add chicken or prawns or other fish for your protein, jacket potatoes filled with lots of salad.
Dinner might be soup, omelette which can be versatile add mushrooms, onions, peppers or cheese or a fruit salad with natural yogurt.
I remember once hearing this advice re eating, eat like a king for breakfast, like a queen for lunch and like a pauper for dinner that is eat your heavier and bigger meals in the day leaving the lightest meal till the evening. For me this works but we are all individuals so you have to find what works for you. Hope this has somewhat helped.
Feel free to add me and good luck in achieving your goals.0 -
AdorkableMe2015 wrote: »
I said I wasn't trying to be mean but your reaction clearly says you are defensive about hearing the POSSIBILITY of an eating disorder. No, you aren't eating enough. I can find a million different ways to get my calorie count to 1200, without even trying, and by eating strictly "healthy" food. To say you "can't do it" is a way to justify your lack of desire TO do it. If you are going to up your calorie intake, that's fantastic. But you asked for people to comment, and my comment was intended to provide a possible insight into why you are only able to consume 600 calories. For me, that's somewhere between breakfast and lunch.
A: Never said "I can't"
B: I'm studying psychology and people generalising and overdiagnosing mental disorders is a genuine concern of mine. I gave you two reasons why I wouldn't consider this leading to a disorder. I don't feel I was being overly defensive.
C: If you read my other comments you'll see I'm responding positivley to most of them.
Between breakfast and lunch is probably a good time to try and fit in a snack.
E: Just because you say you're trying to not be mean/rude doesn't mean you're not.
F: Congrats on your getting to 1200 calories easily, I hope I'm going to get there, this is why I'm asking for help.0 -
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I doubt the accuracy of your counting. Could you open your diary?0
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I think it's ok to say "have a bigger bowl of cereal" etc but ultimately, that might mean a smaller sandwich later if the appetite isn't there. I know it's not ideal to have so few calories per day, but if it's a one off day where you've perhaps not done very much, not burned any real energy and not worked up an appetite then surely it's OK?0
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Plain Greek yogurt with honey, pecans and blueberries makes a wonderful breakfast meal and is chock full of protein and calcium. Coconut milk is lower in fat than cow's milk (which I don't drink anyways) but higher in nutrients. And, I am of the belief that eggs are GOOD for you, so I will have a couple fried eggs on occasion. I lost a lot of weight eliminating gluten from my diet, as I discovered I had a gluten intolerance. I cut out wheat and grain and dropped 20 lbs in three months. Long story about that.0
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Eat some apples, some almonds (good protein, good fat, high calories), some yogurt....so many healthy choices. I have no trouble getting up to 1200.0
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lilxmissxhavic wrote: »AdorkableMe2015 wrote: »
I said I wasn't trying to be mean but your reaction clearly says you are defensive about hearing the POSSIBILITY of an eating disorder. No, you aren't eating enough. I can find a million different ways to get my calorie count to 1200, without even trying, and by eating strictly "healthy" food. To say you "can't do it" is a way to justify your lack of desire TO do it. If you are going to up your calorie intake, that's fantastic. But you asked for people to comment, and my comment was intended to provide a possible insight into why you are only able to consume 600 calories. For me, that's somewhere between breakfast and lunch.
A: Never said "I can't"
B: I'm studying psychology and people generalising and overdiagnosing mental disorders is a genuine concern of mine. I gave you two reasons why I wouldn't consider this leading to a disorder. I don't feel I was being overly defensive.
C: If you read my other comments you'll see I'm responding positivley to most of them. Between breakfast and lunch is probably a good time to try and fit in a snack.
E: Just because you say you're trying to not be mean/rude doesn't mean you're not.
F: Congrats on your getting to 1200 calories easily, I hope I'm going to get there, this is why I'm asking for help.
Oh, I totally agree I am in no position to judge or diagnose. It was just a thought I had
But, I'm a mom and I worry about women your age when they start to obsess over calories. I have an 18 year old daughter who dropped a lot of weight in a short period of time because she wasn't eating enough. I recognized the signs and potential to go into an eating disorder and she pulled out of it right away.
I don't want to hear stories of women feeling they need to starve themselves for...whatever. It's an unhealthy approach to existing. We're all beautiful the way we are.
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DawnieB1977 wrote: »Just have a bigger bowl of cereal for breakfast, or better yet, have eggs and ham or something. Have some nuts for a snack, or an apple and peanut butter, or a banana. Add some chicken to your dinner.
Can't you ask your parents to buy food you like if it's them who do the shopping. I lived away when I was at university, but when I go home to visit my parents now (and I'm 37) my mum always asks me to e-mail her a shopping list so she can buy food we like to eat.
I think it's fine to have a low calorie day occasionally if you just don't feel like eating for whatever reason, just don't make a habit of it.
Yeah I might go back to doing more cereal and stuff, I was trying to follow the mfp/packaging serving sizes, but I might need to double or triple.
I'll start asking my parents for fruits and things.hellokathy wrote: »It sounds like you need to look into planning your days a bit more. Do you usually plan ahead or do you 'wing' it, choosing meals spontaneously? From what you told us it seems like you're deliberately holding back on calories during breakfast and lunch and then end up with way too much left over for dinner. Try to plan ahead and add more cals to your meals, so you have less over at the end of the day. If you can't eat more in terms of mass, see if you can use other ingredients, i.e. wholemilk dairy, etc.
I don't plan my meals, I'll have to get into it. I'm not meaning to restrict calories, I'm just trying to follow the recommended serving sizes. I'll have to plan ahead.
rabbitjb-sandwich breakdown a few comments ago, I'm not trying to deprive, I'm trying to follow reccommended serving sizes, butter and spreads is a good idea.
Victoriamrs-really good information in there, thanks
MrM27-Im still 175cm's and I weighed 88.3kg's today after breakfast.
ILift- I will try to figure out how to do that
Bigandstripey-thanks
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I agree with the thoughts on maybe this is a personal decision of not getting to 1200. Many young girls struggle with the deprivation diets instead of feeding their bodies. I was one of them, so I know exactly what it's like. I restricted myself to 700 calories a day. Now, I eat 1880 and I'm stronger physcially and mentally. It's a mind control game. You need to look at it as fuel, not calories. Maybe for a few days stop counting the calories and just focus on the food. Add more protein to your diet. Boneless chicken, peanut butter, even a whey protein shake. You're causing yourself serious health risks by keeping your body at such low levels of calories and macronutrients. Speaking of, have you ever thought about looking in to IIFYM (if it fits your macros)? This program gives you goals for protein, fat and carbs, which then equals an amount of calories so you focus more on your macros than on your calories. It might help you choose better food choices.
Regardless, we're all here to help. This is why we joined in the first place. We're not here to criticize and label. Some people might not understand what you're going through, but are trying to help any way. I understand that saying something isn't meant to be mean doesn't make it okay, but you also have to realize that that person was being HONEST with you. Getting defensive does not build your case and throwing around excuses and berating that person isn't going to help solve your problem. People sense the hostility and will cease to comment, and that doesn't help anyone.0 -
I gotta call shenanigans here.
There is no way someone who eats to near obesity (30-ish BMI) gets "full" at 600 cal and "struggles" to reach 1200.
The Cognitive Dissonance is screaming.
I'm not buying it.0 -
lilxmissxhavic wrote: »AdorkableMe2015 wrote: »It isn't my intention to be mean here, but what I am gonna say will come across as such.
You don't need a better eating plan, you need a therapist to help you find out why you are purposefully not eating the right amount and types of food. It sounds like you have food issues in general.
Thats a pretty big generalisation to make from one post. Can I please reiterate I AM NOT STARVING MYSELF, I had a reasonable breakfast lunch and dinner and was full, then I was concerned because I wasn't doing it safely so A) went out of my way to get more calories and
asked for advice.
I'm still eating out, I'm still eating whatever my family happens to be eating for dinner, and I'm still having snacks.
Boom! Great idea! thanks!Madame_Goldbricker wrote: »So add another slice of cheese + butter to your sandwiches? There's another 140 cals right there.
A bowl of cereal, 1 sandwich and a bowl of veggies is in no way shape or form a "reasonable" list of meals for an entire day.0 -
I have the same issue! Which is why I'm going to ask: Are you sure you don't have an eating disorder?
I know I do and that is why I have issues meeting the 1200 cal goal. Sometimes we train ourselves to not feel hungry, or alternatively we start to fail to recognize when we are, and because of how much we weight, having such an eating disorder is typically over looked. You may have to push yourself to eat more.
And what you may THINK is "not starving" yourself, because you ate two whole meals a day, you may be psychologically talking yourself out of help. That's how mine started "I eat two big meals, that's not a problem. I am not starving" - but it was and by the time I realized there was no going back.
You might want to review your food diary and in general think about how you eat and really consider what's going on (not just with food and weight loss, but emotionally as well. Think back, when did you start eating like this? Why to I feel like I'm not starving but my body is clearly under the amount of calories it needs for survival). I'm saying this because I wished someone had said it to me when I was younger, maybe I wouldn't be knee deep in it now.
Lots of people will tell you "as long as it's not a habit to constantly have low calorie days" but.... the reason you posted this is because it's become a habit, hasn't it? One low calorie day doesn't warrant help, or seeking advice, but I image that a couple do.
My inbox is open if you want to discuss this, I mean this only as a possible reason behind your under eating and as someone who has experienced this and knows intimately about the subject.
NOTE: After reading some of your responses I have to tell you. Chances are... you do. Because in no way, shape of form does studying psychology make you competent enough to make this call. I have an aunt who is a doctor and while she is competent enough to diagnose others- she herself has an eating disorder and was NOT competent in diagnosing herself. This is why Doctors and Psychologists are required to see other doctors and are legally not allowed to self-medicate. Because you can't always accept that this is your reality.0 -
600 calories isn't even a meal for me!0
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Okay Diary is open now. I only tracked acuratley a couple times, if days are blank or only have one or two iteams ignore that I was camping and didn't have enough reception to use mfp properly.
MrsCaldwell- I'm not intentionally starving myself, I'm following the reccomended servings on mfp/the packaging. I've had a sister go through anorexia and I study psychology, I don't see how anyone could have diagnosed with so little information and I don't think I was overly defensive. But thanks for your info. good reading.
Sergeant Sausage- I don't get it either.
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SergeantSausage wrote: »I gotta call shenanigans here.
There is no way someone who eats to near obesity (30-ish BMI) gets "full" at 600 cal and "struggles" to reach 1200.
The Cognitive Dissonance is screaming.
I'm not buying it.
I agree. So much positive can and does result when we decide to "get real" with ourselves and see ourselves for who we really are. Change won't happen until then, either.0 -
Is your profile pic recent? You don't look like you have that much to lose...maybe instead of working on weight loss so much, focus more on toning/strength training to trim up...
I would agree with what everyone is saying about 600 being far too few calories, but it may be a one off kind of day. I've had days when I'm sick that I don't get sufficient calories...but maybe this day wasn't a typical one for you-in which case, make up those calories over the course of the week.
I find when I'm more physically active (a heavy running week) I tend to be hungrier. I've gotten in the habit of increasing calories with calorie and nutrient dense foods as others have stated (peanut butter/cashew butter, avocado, olive oil, greek yogurt, dark chocolate, dried fruit, whole grain bread)...or using those extra calories as a treat (we're going to Fogo de Chao this weekend for date night so I'll save up for that).
Don't beat yourself up for one day-but now you're getting lots of advice on how to make changes to avoid insufficient calorie intake in the future.0 -
MrsCaldwell628 wrote: »I agree with the thoughts on maybe this is a personal decision of not getting to 1200. Many young girls struggle with the deprivation diets instead of feeding their bodies. I was one of them, so I know exactly what it's like. I restricted myself to 700 calories a day. Now, I eat 1880 and I'm stronger physcially and mentally. It's a mind control game. You need to look at it as fuel, not calories. Maybe for a few days stop counting the calories and just focus on the food. Add more protein to your diet. Boneless chicken, peanut butter, even a whey protein shake. You're causing yourself serious health risks by keeping your body at such low levels of calories and macronutrients. Speaking of, have you ever thought about looking in to IIFYM (if it fits your macros)? This program gives you goals for protein, fat and carbs, which then equals an amount of calories so you focus more on your macros than on your calories. It might help you choose better food choices.
Regardless, we're all here to help. This is why we joined in the first place. We're not here to criticize and label. Some people might not understand what you're going through, but are trying to help any way. I understand that saying something isn't meant to be mean doesn't make it okay, but you also have to realize that that person was being HONEST with you. Getting defensive does not build your case and throwing around excuses and berating that person isn't going to help solve your problem. People sense the hostility and will cease to comment, and that doesn't help anyone.
Thank you. That's exactly what I intended - honesty. We HAVE to be honest with ourselves and each other, when honesty calls for it. Defensive posturing is a way to ward off the truth that is right there, but unrecognizable. 0 -
SergeantSausage wrote: »I gotta call shenanigans here.
There is no way someone who eats to near obesity (30-ish BMI) gets "full" at 600 cal and "struggles" to reach 1200.
The Cognitive Dissonance is screaming.
I'm not buying it.
You don't know why she gained weight.
I think sometimes people get into that 'I must eat less' mentality and tell themselves they're full even when they're not, and get used to it.
I was bigger as a teenager and didn't eat a lot, and lost weight at university by not eating enough at all and I under ate for years. It took me until after my 2nd baby, at age 33, to realise I didn't need to starve myself to lose weight. I'm bigger now than I should be, but I had my 3rd baby 8 months ago, I'm not bigger because I ate too much. And I logged all pregnancy and exercised, so I didn't sit on my *kitten* and eat cake
People are too quick to judge.0 -
Okay just to not have it buried, I'm not intentionally cutting huge amounts of calories, I'm trying to eat regular meals but with the recommended serving on mfp/packaging. It looks like I might need to double/triple my serving sizes.
Are the serving sizes known to be inaccurate?0 -
P.S I agree with the poster who said you don't look like you have much to lose, if your profile pic is recent.0
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lilxmissxhavic wrote: »Okay Diary is open now. I only tracked acuratley a couple times, if days are blank or only have one or two iteams ignore that I was camping and didn't have enough reception to use mfp properly.
MrsCaldwell- I'm not intentionally starving myself, I'm following the reccomended servings on mfp/the packaging. I've had a sister go through anorexia and I study psychology, I don't see how anyone could have diagnosed with so little information and I don't think I was overly defensive. But thanks for your info. good reading.
Sergeant Sausage- I don't get it either.
I'm almost going to guarantee that MFP would never recommend that a bowl of veggies is a "reasonable" dinner. So, you might be measuring the food that you're eating, but you're definitely not eating enough. And unless you're tricking yourself into thinking you're full because you ate three times, I don't buy that you were "full".0 -
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SergeantSausage wrote: »I gotta call shenanigans here.
There is no way someone who eats to near obesity (30-ish BMI) gets "full" at 600 cal and "struggles" to reach 1200.
The Cognitive Dissonance is screaming.
I'm not buying it.
Except it happens ALL the time. Like, have you opened a book or consulted a doctor? This is why most eating disorders in fat/obese people are not addressed, because of the myth that they can't have one.0 -
Always doublecheck your entries to the packaging, and weigh your food. Eyeballing it just doesn't work. A good scale is $15-20 at Target or Wal-Mart. Bulk up your sandwiches with a little more meat, maybe a spread. Add an apple and peanut putter on the side. Make sure you have some protein along with your vegetables for dinner. Eat some nuts, some avocado, some Greek yogurt - eat something more dense for breakfast.0
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How are you determining portion sizes? Are you eyeballing it, or using measuring cups/food scale? It seems to me that you may be underestimating your portions. If that's the case, you may not be so far under your calorie goal as you think.0
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Which day was the 600 calorie day? Today's 1248 consumed? Yesterday's 1199? The 1608 on the 12th?
Your fitbit is generating some large burns for short periods of time. It doesn't look right based upon what shows in your MFP diary. That coupled with the extremely inconsistent logging over the past six weeks makes any feedback purely speculative.0
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