birth control and losing weight...thoughts please.

4leighbee

sizesixorbust wrote: »

personally, sometimes it felt like the pill made me put on a lot of water weight, but now when i look back on when i used to be on it i was just constantly, constantly overeating, even moreso than when i wasn't on it. i can never stay on a pill for more than a month because my hormones overreact and i go into a spiraling depression (yay). it's definitely different for everyone!

I had to shop around for the right pill for me for the same reason - I called it the crazies, but basically the same reason. I will never forget the humiliation I felt when, in college, trying to explain to a older, male doctor who didn't believe the pill could affect mood. I was basically just a silly girl, and he had more important things to do. Ugh ... so glad I've moved past all that and (I think) people now know better!

Niferlynn03

lgutches wrote: »

I had Mirena for a very short time - was a nightmare for me. It is not everyone's experience, of course, but for some, it absolutely can cause weight gain, bloat, gastro-intestinal issues, etc. I gained about ten pounds in a few months' time. Doc tried to say it was not Mirena but ... and I say this confidently ... he was wrong. I never had weight-related issues with the pill, but they were a stroke risk so I came off them after many years. Anyway, tread carefully with birth control options ...

I had the mirena for almost 5 years before it dawned on me that every single problem I had was because of that thing! I saw numerous doctors & therapists, and no one thought it was the mirena. I had lots of "mental/emotional" side affects. They seriously thought I was bi polar! Then after opening up to a lady at work, she asked if I had my hormones checked and it hit me like a brick. Its the stupid mirena! I had it removed the next week and I must say, since I've had it removed back in November I feel like Fog has lifted and I am back to my normal self again.... all that's left from that nightmare are the 60 pounds I gained despite my attemps to lose! Now I have zero excuses!

Friend me and we can do this together!

Sabine_Stroehm

I was on the pill. I gained weight. I had mirena I gained weight while dieting. Everyone's body reacts to hormones differently. Trust yourself.

fwiw: with mirena I also had painful breasts, migraines, acne, bloating, and lowered libido. All of which resolved after my hormones settled after having it removed.

leggup

Science says no, there's no connection between weight gain and hormonal birth control. Most of it is confirmation bias.

Patch/pill and weight gain: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18843652
Study on nocebo/confirmation bias: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21134497
Pill & Primates (pill actually assisting with weight loss by raising metabolic rate): http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21126966
Adverse side effects/weight gain were the same/similar in placebo groups as in BC groups:
http://www.contraceptionjournal.org/article/S0010-7824(01)00208-6/abstract?cc=y
Metastudy on a variety of BC methods across 49 trials. No impact on weight: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0012456/

I think that people posting, "Well, I gained weight!" is a detrimental confirmation bias.

SingRunTing

I've been on two different types of pills in the past year (I was switch from the "regular" pill to a progesterone only pill due to migraines) and I've lost ~40 lbs.

You can lose weight being on birth control. Even with hormones being messed up you can lose weight. You might have to lose at a different rate than expected at a lower calorie goal than expected, but there is a tipping point where you will lose weight.

Start with the numbers MFP give to you for a reasonable rate of loss. Make sure you are being accurate with your intake (weighing solids, measuring liquids) and give it a month. If you don't lose, cut the calories by 100 and then give it another month. Rinse and repeat (you may have to mess with macros a little bit if you have certain health conditions like PCOS). If you get below 1200 calories and you're still not losing (assuming you are being super accurate with your tracking because that's the problem when people don't lose 99% of the time), then see your doctor. At least at that point you will have a solid food log to bring to your doctor to show them what you've been eating.

4leighbee

britishbroccoli wrote: »

Science says no ...

I think that people posting, "Well, I gained weight!" is a detrimental confirmation bias.

While I appreciate your reliance on science, I think it's unfair to negate people's physiological experiences (en masse) in a few short sentences and a list of articles. Science sometimes takes time to catch up, and there's a lot of money to be made in hormonal birth control by drug companies.

I knew very little about Mirena when I chose to do it. I read the pamphlet, but since I don't tend to have reactions to such things, I forged ahead. I knew immediately something was wrong. As I mentioned above, my midsection was terribly bloated and there were accompanying physiological symptoms that were extremely unpleasant. In a few short months, I had gained about ten pounds and couldn't button my pants. I'm a regular runner with a predictable diet. It was the Mirena. No "science" will convince me otherwise. Perhaps in ten years, the declarations made today will be reversed and those of us told that it's in our head will feel slightly validated. Either way, though - I got that thing out of me and moved on. I simply suggest that people proceed with caution and choose their own paths.

leggup

lgutches wrote: »

britishbroccoli wrote: »

Science says no ...

I think that people posting, "Well, I gained weight!" is a detrimental confirmation bias.

While I appreciate your reliance on science, I think it's unfair to negate people's physiological experiences (en masse) in a few short sentences and a list of articles. Science sometimes takes time to catch up, and there's a lot of money to be made in hormonal birth control by drug companies.

Can you imagine how much money would be on the line if a pharmaceutical company could prove that their competitors products cause bloating, soreness, weight gain, whatever, and that their brand new product doesn't? That hasn't happened because all evidence points to confirmation bias in adverse symptoms.

The studies actually demonstrate that women on oral contraceptives gain slightly LESS weight than women who are not on birth control. As far as symptoms, read up on confirmation bias, nocebos, and the article above with placebo controlled studies. Women who were on sugar pills had the same rate/severity/spread of symptoms as women who were on hormonal birth control. Thinking you are on a hormonal birth control is enough for many people to claim the symptoms associated with hormonal birth control.

All of these studies have been initiated because of the very common misconception that birth control causes weight gain/symptoms. Many women discontinue birth control because of the symptoms that they attribute to the medicine, exposing them to the risk of pregnancy.

It's possible that women with these symptoms are sick from something else. If so, they should know not to blame their BC and see a doctor ASAP. Or, it's possible that these symptoms are just part of being a woman. Either way, it's not helpful to falsely blame BC that has run the gauntlet of scientific research.

4leighbee

Given that (1) your argument supports the reduction of unwanted babies in this world (which is a positive thing, whether your argument is accurate or not) and also (2) that I don't have time or interest enough to read up on this and am drawing from Mirena's own admission that it may be related to weight gain and my 100% certainty from personal experience that there is a link (at least with Mirena - don't know about hormones generally) ... I will concede and get back to work.

Your last paragraph continues to offend me; however, I'm sure I'll get over it.

Sabine_Stroehm

lgutches wrote: »

britishbroccoli wrote: »

Science says no ...

I think that people posting, "Well, I gained weight!" is a detrimental confirmation bias.

While I appreciate your reliance on science, I think it's unfair to negate people's physiological experiences (en masse) in a few short sentences and a list of articles. Science sometimes takes time to catch up, and there's a lot of money to be made in hormonal birth control by drug companies.

I knew very little about Mirena when I chose to do it. I read the pamphlet, but since I don't tend to have reactions to such things, I forged ahead. I knew immediately something was wrong. As I mentioned above, my midsection was terribly bloated and there were accompanying physiological symptoms that were extremely unpleasant. In a few short months, I had gained about ten pounds and couldn't button my pants. I'm a regular runner with a predictable diet. It was the Mirena. No "science" will convince me otherwise. Perhaps in ten years, the declarations made today will be reversed and those of us told that it's in our head will feel slightly validated. Either way, though - I got that thing out of me and moved on. I simply suggest that people proceed with caution and choose their own paths.

YOU know your body. Definitely do what makes sense to you.
Mirena was NOT good for me either.

Lorraine128

lgutches wrote: »

britishbroccoli wrote: »

Science says no ...

I think that people posting, "Well, I gained weight!" is a detrimental confirmation bias.

While I appreciate your reliance on science, I think it's unfair to negate people's physiological experiences (en masse) in a few short sentences and a list of articles. Science sometimes takes time to catch up, and there's a lot of money to be made in hormonal birth control by drug companies.

I knew very little about Mirena when I chose to do it. I read the pamphlet, but since I don't tend to have reactions to such things, I forged ahead. I knew immediately something was wrong. As I mentioned above, my midsection was terribly bloated and there were accompanying physiological symptoms that were extremely unpleasant. In a few short months, I had gained about ten pounds and couldn't button my pants. I'm a regular runner with a predictable diet. It was the Mirena. No "science" will convince me otherwise. Perhaps in ten years, the declarations made today will be reversed and those of us told that it's in our head will feel slightly validated. Either way, though - I got that thing out of me and moved on. I simply suggest that people proceed with caution and choose their own paths.

I have experienced almost identical symptoms with Mirena. Currently 10lbs heavier than I was when Mirena was fitted in Sept 2014, with a bloated stomach. Despite regular exercise and sensible diet this extra weight crept on.

Coupled with several other unpleasant side effects, Mirena has not been a positive experience for me. However I accept it is a successful option for some women.

It's being removed on Tuesday and I cannot wait to get back to normal. Never had issues like this on BC pills but am told I'm too old for those now.

4leighbee

Lorraine, I remember vividly the frustration, the embarassment of having to describe the symptoms to my doctor, the reluctant acceptance that I should give it a "fair shake," and then the insistence that it be removed from my body. It took a month or so to start returning to normal, but it's a memory for me now - and will be for you, too. I'm sorry you are going through this. Nobody goes to the trouble of putting that thing in - dealing with the side effects for however many months - just to go back to the doc and have them remove it. Awful experience.

chaitrex

This is different for everyone. Even on a low dose bcp, weight creeps on fast. Like, 15 lbs in one summer fast. My body can't deal with the estrogen. Progesterone only pills worked well for me, asides from my breasts getting bigger (and super tender ouch). I never tried depo, but that's also progesterone only, and I lot of people like it. Of course, if it starts causing side effects, you have to wait out the three months...eek.
Many opt for progesterone only pills? You have to be really good about taking it at the same time every day, but I found that to be easy by setting an alarm on my phone.

mskinner1091

I also have that implant in my arm due to come out this October. I didn't gain any weight with it & have had no trouble losing since I started my weight loss journey. It's all about how the BC affects your specific body. My best friend has it also & she put on 35lbs with it.

lemon629

I use the Nuva Ring. I love it. No pill to remember every day, no nausea and vomiting if I took it without enough food, no side effects to speak of. (I had a lot of problems with pills-- insomnia, acne, moodiness. No weight issues, though.)