Walking during a marathon may reduce strain...
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I can definitely see that. When I run intervals, my pace is significantly better than my run only training pace. That walk break makes a huge difference. But I still prefer to push myself and run entire races. My race pace is still faster than my interval pace because I'm rested and pushing myself.0
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I bet riding a bike during a marathon is even less stressful on the joints and I bet riding in a car is even less stressful still. But since we're talking about an endurance running event, I probably shouldn't mention the absurdly obvious.0
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MeanderingMammal wrote: »Just another observation, the results identify that subjective reporting of fatigue was different between the two groups, but objective physiological assessments indicated similar outcomes. So that would suggest that the reduced discomfort is as much psychological. I guess there's no way to measure the effects of telling people for twelve weeks that they're doing a training plan that'll lead to lower pysiological impact.
Yes, this is the finding that interests me, too.
I read a study that I can no longer find (at least I hope I read it) about the benefits of compression socks/tights for *recovery* being significantly placebo effect. The wearers felt their muscles recovered faster, but the biomarkers of muscular damage were the same as the control group. I wonder if a similar mechanism is in play between perception of pain--underlying biology. (Of course, now when I look for the study I find a bunch of stuff about wearing socks while running...I'll keep looking).0 -
Didn't train? Run/walk! Want to make a certain time at your first 5k? Why not run/walk instead? Its easier! Its so much easier to just always run/walk and never improve!0
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cheshirecatastrophe wrote: »MeanderingMammal wrote: »Just another observation, the results identify that subjective reporting of fatigue was different between the two groups, but objective physiological assessments indicated similar outcomes. So that would suggest that the reduced discomfort is as much psychological. I guess there's no way to measure the effects of telling people for twelve weeks that they're doing a training plan that'll lead to lower pysiological impact.
Yes, this is the finding that interests me, too.
I read a study that I can no longer find (at least I hope I read it) about the benefits of compression socks/tights for *recovery* being significantly placebo effect. The wearers felt their muscles recovered faster, but the biomarkers of muscular damage were the same as the control group. I wonder if a similar mechanism is in play between perception of pain--underlying biology. (Of course, now when I look for the study I find a bunch of stuff about wearing socks while running...I'll keep looking).0 -
SonicDeathMonkey80 wrote: »Why bother? Seriously. Hopefully more races start lowering the cutoff times - 6 hours is a good start.
6:30:00 is enforced in a fair number of marathons. That's a 15:00 pace.0 -
This would be another instance of the normalization of deviance.
I'm all for run/walk during beginner training, but surely the point to running is to run. My wife has a friend who enters walking marathons, but they are specifically for walkers.
If you can't run the distance, you shouldn't enter the race.
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It does not both me that instead of racing a marathon for time many people these days have a goal to finish even it if means crawling across the finish line. Completing a marathon is a goal for many people and I am happy for all those that achieve it.
My real concern is the lack of proper training before that 1st marathon. Personally I think it would be a lot more enjoyable for people if they took more time to gradually build up training mileage beforehand. Assuming proper training a lot less people would feel the need to walk at all (except for perhaps at water stations to avoid spilling etc).
Ignoring all timing issues, injury risk is also reduced with proper training.
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