Sugars

bettieb1988
bettieb1988 Posts: 122 Member
edited November 11 in Food and Nutrition
Everyday I always go over my sugar goal. However, I get all my sugar from raw fruit and vegetables and from my daily fiber one bar. Is it unhealthy to take in so much sugar? I'm hitting around 62grams per day. I do not drink sugary drinks or soda. Only water.
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  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    You're fine. The MFP sugar goal on the diaries is notoriously wonky. Replace it with tracking fiber or something.
  • bettieb1988
    bettieb1988 Posts: 122 Member
    Ok thank you! Do you have any suggestions though on what the sugar intake should actually be like?
  • I don't think you should count natural sugars from fruits and vegetables, only added sugars from your soda, sweets, or coffee. I go way beyond my sugar limit every day. :smile:
  • bettieb1988
    bettieb1988 Posts: 122 Member
    Ok good! That makes things easier. I have 300 calories left today and I've been wondering how I was going to make up for that.
  • smis92103
    smis92103 Posts: 58 Member
    62 g is not bad. The daily recommendation when you don't want to lose weight is about 90 g for average adult. Natural sugars in fruit are wonderful but in my opinion if you really want to see dramatic weight reduction you might consider limiting your fruit intake and see the effect it has on your body-everybody is different. Perhaps try for a week? Also, I would consider having my fruits in the first half of the day and limiting at the evening. Hope this helps!
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    I go over my sugar allowance nearly everyday due to fruit and milk. I don't worry about it.
  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    smisconi wrote: »
    62 g is not bad. The daily recommendation when you don't want to lose weight is about 90 g for average adult. Natural sugars in fruit are wonderful but in my opinion if you really want to see dramatic weight reduction you might consider limiting your fruit intake and see the effect it has on your body-everybody is different. Perhaps try for a week? Also, I would consider having my fruits in the first half of the day and limiting at the evening. Hope this helps!

    Going over your sugar intake for the day has nothing to do with CICO
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,266 Member
    smisconi wrote: »
    62 g is not bad. The daily recommendation when you don't want to lose weight is about 90 g for average adult. Natural sugars in fruit are wonderful but in my opinion if you really want to see dramatic weight reduction you might consider limiting your fruit intake and see the effect it has on your body-everybody is different. Perhaps try for a week? Also, I would consider having my fruits in the first half of the day and limiting at the evening. Hope this helps!
    Let the misinformation begin.

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  • smis92103
    smis92103 Posts: 58 Member
    can you guys explain?
  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    smisconi wrote: »
    can you guys explain?

    Explain how CICO works? And eating sugar?
  • smis92103
    smis92103 Posts: 58 Member
    Well, I am new here so in advance I apologize for not knowing what is CICO, you guys have sugar wars here and what is the misinformation? Just want to learn.
  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    Sugar has nothing to do with weight loss. Eating less sugar may keep your calories lower but other than that it doesn't stall or stop you from losing weight. CICO is Calories in vs. Calories out.
  • smis92103
    smis92103 Posts: 58 Member
    Got it. Thanks!
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    smis92103 wrote: »
    62 g is not bad. The daily recommendation when you don't want to lose weight is about 90 g for average adult. Natural sugars in fruit are wonderful but in my opinion if you really want to see dramatic weight reduction you might consider limiting your fruit intake and see the effect it has on your body-everybody is different. Perhaps try for a week? Also, I would consider having my fruits in the first half of the day and limiting at the evening. Hope this helps!

    LOL whut??/

    reduce fruit intake to increase weight loss?

    I have heard them all now…

    why can't you eat fruit in the evening?

  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    smis92103 wrote: »
    can you guys explain?

    cliff notes..

    sugar is not bad unless one has a medical condition ..
    you can eat sugar, be in a calorie deficit, and lose weight.
    sugar is not bad….
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    Ok good! That makes things easier. I have 300 calories left today and I've been wondering how I was going to make up for that.

    The WHO's recommendation is something like 25 grams or less from added sugar (i.e., you wouldn't count sugar inherent in fruits, veggies, dairy). Even that is mostly because eating lots of the types of foods that tend to have lots of added sugar (desserts) means adding lots of calories and few nutrients, so it's common for people who eat a lot of them to end up eating lots of excess calories or not getting enough nutrients (according to WHO's reasoning). It's largely a way to check yourself and avoid too many calories/too few nutrients when you aren't already tracking those things.

    Since we do check those things, I always recommend maybe tracking sugar for a little while to make sure you understand where your sugar is coming from, and then switching it out for fiber. Fiber is useful because it's a nice thing to get enough of, and also because it tends to be found in foods like fruits and veggies (among others) which have both sugar and lots of nutrients. Chances are if you are under your carb goal AND getting enough fiber that you are aren't eating an excess amount of added sugar.

    This is all about nutrition, though. For weight loss the amount of sugar you eat really doesn't matter unless you end up too hungry because foods with lots of added sugar are perceived by many (not everyone) to be less filling.
  • MKEgal
    MKEgal Posts: 3,250 Member
    My carb goal is 158g so no, I would not see 62 as a problem, other than that it's very low.
    If it's mostly coming from whole grains, very little from sweetened drinks or junk foods, I wouldn't worry about being a bit over.

    Here's a table which explains the healthy macro ranges:
    http://www.iom.edu/Global/News%20Announcements/~/media/C5CD2DD7840544979A549EC47E56A02B.ashx

    page 1, carbs, 45 - 65% of calories (4 cal per gram)
    page 2, fat, 20 - 35% of calories (9 cal per gram)
    page 4, protein, 10 - 35% of calories (4 cal per gram)

    So for someone with a calorie goal of 2000 per day, that would be
    50% carbs, 1000 cal, 250 g
    25% fat, 500 cal, 56g
    25% protein, 500 cal, 125 g
    (just to take the simplest example as a starting point; adjust for your own needs, to see where you feel best)

    And eating higher protein & lower carbs leads to more weight loss, so if you aim for the low end of carbs (45%), low end of fat (20%), and high end of protein (35%) you'll probably be more successful.
    Links to & quotes from the studies in this blog post.

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  • bettieb1988
    bettieb1988 Posts: 122 Member
    Thank you all for the information. I will admit I was one of those people that thought weight loss would be halted if you had a high sugar intake. You hear so much about how sugars are bad it can be misleading. I'm trying to meet all my nutrient needs while staying low in calories. Would anyone mind looking at my nutrient intake for today and give insight on how I'm doing? My diet is mainly comprised of fruit vegetable and chicken. I took in 1414 calories for the day after exercise is taken into account. bfn8in3dg1d4.jpg
  • bettieb1988
    bettieb1988 Posts: 122 Member
    I will add that while my current goal is weight loss I will eventually be looking to tone and add a bit of muscle. I'm assuming adding muscle comes later! Haha
  • Serah87
    Serah87 Posts: 5,481 Member
    I will add that while my current goal is weight loss I will eventually be looking to tone and add a bit of muscle. I'm assuming adding muscle comes later! Haha

    Start now!! Don't wait!! Lift heavy!! ;)
  • Serah87
    Serah87 Posts: 5,481 Member
    edited January 2015
    Thank you all for the information. I will admit I was one of those people that thought weight loss would be halted if you had a high sugar intake. You hear so much about how sugars are bad it can be misleading. I'm trying to meet all my nutrient needs while staying low in calories. Would anyone mind looking at my nutrient intake for today and give insight on how I'm doing? My diet is mainly comprised of fruit vegetable and chicken. I took in 1414 calories for the day after exercise is taken into account. bfn8in3dg1d4.jpg
    I usually hit 100 grams or more of sugar every day, lost 121 pounds delicious foods. ;)
  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    Ok good! That makes things easier. I have 300 calories left today and I've been wondering how I was going to make up for that.

    The WHO's recommendation is something like 25 grams or less from added sugar (i.e., you wouldn't count sugar inherent in fruits, veggies, dairy). Even that is mostly because eating lots of the types of foods that tend to have lots of added sugar (desserts) means adding lots of calories and few nutrients, so it's common for people who eat a lot of them to end up eating lots of excess calories or not getting enough nutrients (according to WHO's reasoning). It's largely a way to check yourself and avoid too many calories/too few nutrients when you aren't already tracking those things.

    Since we do check those things, I always recommend maybe tracking sugar for a little while to make sure you understand where your sugar is coming from, and then switching it out for fiber. Fiber is useful because it's a nice thing to get enough of, and also because it tends to be found in foods like fruits and veggies (among others) which have both sugar and lots of nutrients. Chances are if you are under your carb goal AND getting enough fiber that you are aren't eating an excess amount of added sugar.

    This is all about nutrition, though. For weight loss the amount of sugar you eat really doesn't matter unless you end up too hungry because foods with lots of added sugar are perceived by many (not everyone) to be less filling.

    Yes to all of this.

    My added sugar intake is usually around 25-30 grams, but there have been times during weight loss mode that it was much higher.

    If you (or the lurkers) are interested, here are some good reads about sugar:

    http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism

    http://admin.sweetenerstudies.com/sites/default/files/resources/files/Scientific-Review-of-Lustigs-Fat-Chance.pdf

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-29126872

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/trevorbutterworth/2014/02/06/sweet-and-sour-the-media-decided-fructose-was-bad-for-america-but-science-had-second-thoughts/
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,009 Member
    smis92103 wrote: »
    62 g is not bad. The daily recommendation when you don't want to lose weight is about 90 g for average adult. Natural sugars in fruit are wonderful but in my opinion if you really want to see dramatic weight reduction you might consider limiting your fruit intake and see the effect it has on your body-everybody is different. Perhaps try for a week? Also, I would consider having my fruits in the first half of the day and limiting at the evening. Hope this helps!

    This is terrible advice...

  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
    Serah87 wrote: »
    I will add that while my current goal is weight loss I will eventually be looking to tone and add a bit of muscle. I'm assuming adding muscle comes later! Haha

    Start now!! Don't wait!! Lift heavy!! ;)

    Definitely don't wait. I waited and I regret it-- it's MUCH harder to build muscle back once you've lost it than it is to keep what you already have.
  • bettieb1988
    bettieb1988 Posts: 122 Member
    Ok awesome! Thanks so much for the help guys. I've kinda just been "going with it" an making my own routine instead of following any pre packaged one. Just coming up with my own routine so I'm figuring things out on my own. Last question, I promise, since I'm going to start trying to add muscle what should my protein intake look like?
  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
    Ok awesome! Thanks so much for the help guys. I've kinda just been "going with it" an making my own routine instead of following any pre packaged one. Just coming up with my own routine so I'm figuring things out on my own. Last question, I promise, since I'm going to start trying to add muscle what should my protein intake look like?

    I'd aim for 1 gram of protein per pound of lean body mass. So if you know your body fat percentage it's easy to figure, for example:

    My weight: 125
    My body fat: 18%
    So my lean mass would be 125 x 82% = 102.5

    Alternately you could do .8 grams of protein per pound of weight, but the first way is better imo.

    I'd also recommend following a program for lifting. Stronglifts is free and it's a good program. I prefer Starting Strength but that one is a book you buy. New Rules of Lifting for Women appeals to some people-- it's more complex, which is why I didn't care for it.
  • Steph_135
    Steph_135 Posts: 3,280 Member
    J72FIT wrote: »
    smis92103 wrote: »
    62 g is not bad. The daily recommendation when you don't want to lose weight is about 90 g for average adult. Natural sugars in fruit are wonderful but in my opinion if you really want to see dramatic weight reduction you might consider limiting your fruit intake and see the effect it has on your body-everybody is different. Perhaps try for a week? Also, I would consider having my fruits in the first half of the day and limiting at the evening. Hope this helps!

    This is terrible advice...
    I second the advice. I have heard multiple sources state the same thing. I try to follow it as well. Everything in moderation. If I ate as much fruit as I wanted to, things would be bad. Haha. And eating them in the morning is just making sure they don't slow down digestion later in the evening, I believe.
  • bettieb1988
    bettieb1988 Posts: 122 Member
    Ok awesome! Thanks so much for the help guys. I've kinda just been "going with it" an making my own routine instead of following any pre packaged one. Just coming up with my own routine so I'm figuring things out on my own. Last question, I promise, since I'm going to start trying to add muscle what should my protein intake look like?

    I'd aim for 1 gram of protein per pound of lean body mass. So if you know your body fat percentage it's easy to figure, for example:

    My weight: 125
    My body fat: 18%
    So my lean mass would be 125 x 82% = 102.5

    Alternately you could do .8 grams of protein per pound of weight, but the first way is better imo.

    I'd also recommend following a program for lifting. Stronglifts is free and it's a good program. I prefer Starting Strength but that one is a book you buy. New Rules of Lifting for Women appeals to some people-- it's more complex, which is why I didn't care for it.

    How did you get 82%?
  • RhineDHP
    RhineDHP Posts: 1,025 Member
    edited January 2015
    Ok awesome! Thanks so much for the help guys. I've kinda just been "going with it" an making my own routine instead of following any pre packaged one. Just coming up with my own routine so I'm figuring things out on my own. Last question, I promise, since I'm going to start trying to add muscle what should my protein intake look like?

    I think I heard somewhere that 100g is a good starting point.
    I googled this, and it seems to be like a reliable source:

    How Much Protein Per Day?

    Are you using the MyFitnessPal (MFP) method of calculating how many calories you intake, or Total Daily Energy Expenditure (TDEE)?

    Also for whoever asked, CICO is an abbreviation for calories in, calories out.

    Edit: I think you should join this group, it has a wealth of information and people who really know their stuff and want to help you reach your goals:

    Group: Eat.Train.Progress.
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