So exercise isn't needed to lose weight?
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Pick the low number. It sounds like you are doing a lot of things right.0
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SergeantSausage wrote: »
So, no exercise while dieting will make someone toned and fit?
I think a good term is skinny fat.
Logic much?
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ashley92188 wrote: »Thanks for the great advice everybody! I'm sorry I should've added that I'm 5"11 290lbs. Right now I'm doin strictly cardio at the gym. Treadmill for 40mins at speeds of 3-3.5 then I get on this exercise bike for 36mins. I'm measuring my calories burned with my polar hrm which always tells me after those 2 workouts I've burned no less than 800cals-1000cals but my goal is atleast 700 bc I'd like to burn 3500 a week since I've been told 3500 burned is 1lb. Mind u I just got back into the gym maybe a week or 2 ago.
So it looks like I should be using the strength machines as well and stop being afraid to eat lol and eat my calories back or atleast some of them? I guess it's harder for me to consume them now bc I'm drinking water all day which is filling and I'm also eating more frequently throughout the day to keep my metabolism going. Eating small healthy meals every 2-3 hours as opposed to 2-3 big unhealthy meals that more than likely got me this way in the first place. I just started using my food scale and mfp. I may be off with measurements on a few items but for the most part I guess it's pretty accurate. Mfp also measures my daily steps atleast when I have my phone in hand which adds more calories burned daily.
My first concern is getting back down to a healthy weight but I do want to look good when I get there. I wasn't always this big. I used to be about 150 in hs then in college is when I was 160-170 then idk I started gaining gaining and gaining all while in denial never thinking I'd ever hit 300lbs but here I am. My eating habits never changed nor did my exercise level which has always been pretty much non existent but I guess my metabolism did n that's y I'm the way I am now. The weight gain happened over a period of about 5-6 years started in about 2009. And now I'm ready to get back in shape. I'm 26 and this isn't good nor is it healthy. I wanna be able to run and jump again and just be active so I kno the gym will definitely help get me back into shape. I just have to get to the point where I enjoy going.
Hey there, I have similar stats to you. I'm also 5'11" and currently at 280 (started at 299). It sounds like I don't work out quite as much as you, but I do work out usually 4-5 days a week, around 30-45 minutes each time. My total calorie intake is usually around 1900-2000, but my NET (after factoring calories burned during exercise) usually comes to around 1600, which is the goal MFP gave me for losing 2lbs per week. If you're only eating 1600 TOTAL, you can definitely eat more and still lose weight! I've been consistently losing approx. 2lbs per week. Feel free to friend me if you want, since we have similar stats and sounds like we also have similar goals! Always love finding new tall girl friends
Good luck to you!
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ashley92188 wrote: »My eating habits never changed nor did my exercise level which has always been pretty much non existent but I guess my metabolism did n that's y I'm the way I am now.
You are right....This is what happened.
In my opinion exercise isn't needed to to lose weight, however i do believe some form of activity or exercise is needed to maintain the weight loss.
As long as you are eating the required calories for weight loss, you do not need exercise...5 mins walk around the block after each meal, lots of water will be ok. Be carefull when you start exercising and eating back calories, a lot of people put the weight back on by doing this incorrectly, either by not accurately estimating the calories burned or not accurately counting calories already eaten. Some have recommended and i believe that is the best approach is to use your TDEE to set your calory goals. TDEE takes into account your activity level. Adjust your calorie goals in MFP to reflect that number and then you do not need to eat back your exercise calories, of course be honest about your activity level when calculating TDEE and adjust it and what you have entered in MFP if it changes
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I dont exercise anymore, i have a mobility disability but by following slimming world i am losing weight. Works for me0
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ashley92188 wrote: »ive been seeing this a lot on here lately that all u really need to do to lose weight is to eat at a calorie deficit?
So does exercising just help u lose more faster or wat?
I really hate the gym and I'm hoping one day I'll learn to love it but right now I'm in the gym 5-6 days a week burning atleast 800 calories, 700 is my daily goal, because I really need to lose a little over 100 lbs but my first goal is 50.
Mfp suggested I eat 2000 somethin calories to lose 2lbs a week as a lightly active person but I'll never eat that many especially with all the exercise I'm doing. I can barely eat 1600 and I don't wanna go into starvation mode.
Exercise is good for you...really good for you, regardless of your weight control goals. But your weight control goals are largely a result of your energy (calorie) consumption. Exercise can help in this RE in that you can eat more and still accomplish the same goals. For example, without exercise if I wanted to lose about 1 Lb per week I could only eat around 1800 calories or so. Conversely, with my training regimen I can eat about 2300 - 2400 calories and accomplish that same goal.
Look at it this way...I can lose weight, maintain, or gain weight all the while sticking to my training regimen...the difference between these three outcomes isn't my exercise....there is no change in my exercise...the difference is my energy consumption.
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ashley92188 wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »HRMs aren't that accurate for walking ... unless you're using a very steep incline, it's probably overestimating your burn. For cycling ... they can be accurate, they can be way off. It depends on resistance, model of device, etc.
I have a polar ft7. I have noticed that my heart rate always matches the heart rate on whatever machine I'm working out on but the calories burned is always much higher on my watch.
Yea, it try to over estimte calories eaten and under estimate exercise calories...0 -
ashley92188 wrote: »ive been seeing this a lot on here lately that all u really need to do to lose weight is to eat at a calorie deficit?
So does exercising just help u lose more faster or wat?
I really hate the gym and I'm hoping one day I'll learn to love it but right now I'm in the gym 5-6 days a week burning atleast 800 calories, 700 is my daily goal, because I really need to lose a little over 100 lbs but my first goal is 50.
Mfp suggested I eat 2000 somethin calories to lose 2lbs a week as a lightly active person but I'll never eat that many especially with all the exercise I'm doing. I can barely eat 1600 and I don't wanna go into starvation mode.ashley92188 wrote: »ive been seeing this a lot on here lately that all u really need to do to lose weight is to eat at a calorie deficit?
So does exercising just help u lose more faster or wat?
I really hate the gym and I'm hoping one day I'll learn to love it but right now I'm in the gym 5-6 days a week burning atleast 800 calories, 700 is my daily goal, because I really need to lose a little over 100 lbs but my first goal is 50.
Mfp suggested I eat 2000 somethin calories to lose 2lbs a week as a lightly active person but I'll never eat that many especially with all the exercise I'm doing. I can barely eat 1600 and I don't wanna go into starvation mode.
Ashley different people have different views on nearly every question/statement you made.
Do get a handle around what RebelDiamond posted and get the math sorted out.
Most people based on posts on MFP would be better off to not to exercise to lose weight if they are in poor health at the time perhaps.
I was 75 pounds overweight and I started out and still mainly just walk a min of a quarter mile a day. 100% of the people that work out in gyms at some point will stop doing so and when that day comes if they were using exercise for weight control they are going to get fat if they do not quickly learn to control weight by their eating lifestyle.
Many people get hurt in gyms and the result can last a lifetime.
I am down 40 pounds but that has taken around a year from the start. For the past six months I have been studying hard to learn the science of lifetime weight loss and still have a ways to go. A lifetime game change can even take a few years to perfect. Best of luck and take your time until you grasp the science and math.
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I do tend to tell myself that the 80/20 rule has to be followed. 80% diet, 20% exercise .. or I would never be motivated to go. I have been stalled for almost 2 months but with the gym I am noticing a huge change in my body shape. To me it's how you not only lose but keep the body informed it has to change when you are losing to tone up all the stuff that is going to be leftover. You don't want to do all that work with the food and not have the skin left over !0
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Lizabelle1212 wrote: »ashley92188 wrote: »Thanks for the great advice everybody! I'm sorry I should've added that I'm 5"11 290lbs. Right now I'm doin strictly cardio at the gym. Treadmill for 40mins at speeds of 3-3.5 then I get on this exercise bike for 36mins. I'm measuring my calories burned with my polar hrm which always tells me after those 2 workouts I've burned no less than 800cals-1000cals but my goal is atleast 700 bc I'd like to burn 3500 a week since I've been told 3500 burned is 1lb. Mind u I just got back into the gym maybe a week or 2 ago.
So it looks like I should be using the strength machines as well and stop being afraid to eat lol and eat my calories back or atleast some of them? I guess it's harder for me to consume them now bc I'm drinking water all day which is filling and I'm also eating more frequently throughout the day to keep my metabolism going. Eating small healthy meals every 2-3 hours as opposed to 2-3 big unhealthy meals that more than likely got me this way in the first place. I just started using my food scale and mfp. I may be off with measurements on a few items but for the most part I guess it's pretty accurate. Mfp also measures my daily steps atleast when I have my phone in hand which adds more calories burned daily.
My first concern is getting back down to a healthy weight but I do want to look good when I get there. I wasn't always this big. I used to be about 150 in hs then in college is when I was 160-170 then idk I started gaining gaining and gaining all while in denial never thinking I'd ever hit 300lbs but here I am. My eating habits never changed nor did my exercise level which has always been pretty much non existent but I guess my metabolism did n that's y I'm the way I am now. The weight gain happened over a period of about 5-6 years started in about 2009. And now I'm ready to get back in shape. I'm 26 and this isn't good nor is it healthy. I wanna be able to run and jump again and just be active so I kno the gym will definitely help get me back into shape. I just have to get to the point where I enjoy going.
Hey there, I have similar stats to you. I'm also 5'11" and currently at 280 (started at 299). It sounds like I don't work out quite as much as you, but I do work out usually 4-5 days a week, around 30-45 minutes each time. My total calorie intake is usually around 1900-2000, but my NET (after factoring calories burned during exercise) usually comes to around 1600, which is the goal MFP gave me for losing 2lbs per week. If you're only eating 1600 TOTAL, you can definitely eat more and still lose weight! I've been consistently losing approx. 2lbs per week. Feel free to friend me if you want, since we have similar stats and sounds like we also have similar goals! Always love finding new tall girl friends Good luck to you!
Thanks! I actually just started exercising maybe within the last 2 weeks lol I'm def gonna add u!0 -
SergeantSausage wrote: »SergeantSausage wrote: »
So, no exercise while dieting will make someone toned and fit?
I think a good term is skinny fat.
Logic much?
Please don't be evasive and clarify.
I truly don't get where you are coming from with your reply to Jennifer. 0 -
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ashley92188 wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »From college to age 26 you gained 140 pounds? So you've nearly doubled your weight in less than 5 years?
Have you checked in with your doctor to make sure that you don't have medical issues that are contributing to the gain?
I have and am currently checking with my dr because I honestly don't understand it either. I gain SO fast and it's like I can't lose weight no matter wat. I've had my thyroid checked and everything came back normal. I just had all this blood work done. Everything came back normal and I stopped taking my bc this month to see if that was a factor. I can literally gain 50lbs in a year. This is very depressing but im working harder than ever to lose this weight. I go back to my dr next week to discuss my results.
And I'm really not sure how many steps I average bc I work a desk job and when I do get up I don't always have my phone on me but when I go to the gym I average over 10,000 steps bc my phone is on me there.
I'm glad that you are looking into this. It sounds like something could be amiss. Thyroid is only one small part of metabolism. If you don't get answers with your current doctor, you might want to consider seeing an endocrinologist. It's really unusual for someone so young to gain so fast.
I gained 100 pounds after my pituitary failed. It took me several years and a lot of fighting to get a diagnosis and some treatment. Tracking well and being able to show your doctor what you are really eating and doing in terms of exercise can be very helpful.0 -
I think how much exercise factors in depends on the person. I really cannot eat under 1200/day without feeling horrible. Yet I can NET under 1200/day, by exercising and eating more, and feel fine. I have always gained weight whenever I've been injured and unable to work out (or lazy and just not working out, let's keep it real). So I think it really depends on how much you are able to restrict your eating, whether you 'need' exercise or not.0
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As someone who has lost huge amounts of weight (50kgs nearly I don't know what that is in pounds) and still has a good way to go, I can only say to you that you NEE(D to find something that you love. Its just like romance, it only works with what is perfect for you. For me it is boxing. I box 2 hours a day, every day apart from Saturday (rest day) and Sunday where I tend to do 5 hours of boxing a day.
I adore it, I can't wait to get better at it, I've gone from wanting to 'look good in a dress' to wanting to fight properly, it is SO important to me.
When you find that thing that you love (and just like dating have a great time looking testing out new things that you might like, have little romances with them ad then move on but eventually you will find that sport or activity that you LOVE and that will inspire and guide you.
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Yes...when you find an exercise that you love, it will give you more energy and make you feel happy!0
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Regarding weight loss, I like cardio because a) it cuts my appetite a bit - I tend to eat less on cardio days, weirdly - and b) it burns calories so I can eat more if I want - less deprivation.
Plus it helps with heart health (obviously), mood, and energy, and it's thought to be protective against dementia.0 -
azulvioleta6 wrote: »ashley92188 wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »From college to age 26 you gained 140 pounds? So you've nearly doubled your weight in less than 5 years?
Have you checked in with your doctor to make sure that you don't have medical issues that are contributing to the gain?
I have and am currently checking with my dr because I honestly don't understand it either. I gain SO fast and it's like I can't lose weight no matter wat. I've had my thyroid checked and everything came back normal. I just had all this blood work done. Everything came back normal and I stopped taking my bc this month to see if that was a factor. I can literally gain 50lbs in a year. This is very depressing but im working harder than ever to lose this weight. I go back to my dr next week to discuss my results.
And I'm really not sure how many steps I average bc I work a desk job and when I do get up I don't always have my phone on me but when I go to the gym I average over 10,000 steps bc my phone is on me there.
I'm glad that you are looking into this. It sounds like something could be amiss. Thyroid is only one small part of metabolism. If you don't get answers with your current doctor, you might want to consider seeing an endocrinologist. It's really unusual for someone so young to gain so fast.
I gained 100 pounds after my pituitary failed. It took me several years and a lot of fighting to get a diagnosis and some treatment. Tracking well and being able to show your doctor what you are really eating and doing in terms of exercise can be very helpful.
Thanks I'm definitely gonna stay persistent with this.0 -
SergeantSausage wrote: »SergeantSausage wrote: »
So, no exercise while dieting will make someone toned and fit?
I think a good term is skinny fat.
Logic much?
Please don't be evasive and clarify. I truly don't get where you are coming from with your reply to Jennifer.
O ... K ....
If I mention these phrases: "rules of inference" "first order predicate logic" or maybe even something as fundamental as "modus ponens" ... do they mean anything to you?
The key phrase in this discourse is "logical fallacy". More specifically: the "contrapositive of the conditional" is being misunderstood in the most naive and classic sense in which the subject demonstrates zero knowledge of the subject of logic.
Hence, the tongue-in-cheek question as presented: "Logic much?"
But that doesn't really help you, does it, right?
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SergeantSausage wrote: »SergeantSausage wrote: »SergeantSausage wrote: »
So, no exercise while dieting will make someone toned and fit?
I think a good term is skinny fat.
Logic much?
Please don't be evasive and clarify. I truly don't get where you are coming from with your reply to Jennifer.
O ... K ....
If I mention these phrases: "rules of inference" "first order predicate logic" or maybe even something as fundamental as "modus ponens" ... do they mean anything to you?
The key phrase in this discourse is "logical fallacy". More specifically: the "contrapositive of the conditional" is being misunderstood in the most naive and classic sense in which the subject demonstrates zero knowledge of the subject of logic.
Hence, the tongue-in-cheek question as presented: "Logic much?"
But that doesn't really help you, does it, right?
Never mind, I got it...after I posted and didn't have time to edit.
Stop using such big language.
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Y'know, I'm just here trying to help, not to play one upsmanship games with people who are self styled experts, quoting blocks from others with "no" "nope" "blah blah." Good lord. I'm available to be friended for those who'd like support. There's only so much I can do on the boards before the trolls start. *throws hands in air*0
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ashley92188 wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »From college to age 26 you gained 140 pounds? So you've nearly doubled your weight in less than 5 years?
Have you checked in with your doctor to make sure that you don't have medical issues that are contributing to the gain?
I have and am currently checking with my dr because I honestly don't understand it either. I gain SO fast and it's like I can't lose weight no matter wat. I've had my thyroid checked and everything came back normal. I just had all this blood work done. Everything came back normal and I stopped taking my bc this month to see if that was a factor. I can literally gain 50lbs in a year. This is very depressing but im working harder than ever to lose this weight. I go back to my dr next week to discuss my results.
And I'm really not sure how many steps I average bc I work a desk job and when I do get up I don't always have my phone on me but when I go to the gym I average over 10,000 steps bc my phone is on me there.
Have they checked you for PCOS?0 -
ashley92188 wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »From college to age 26 you gained 140 pounds? So you've nearly doubled your weight in less than 5 years?
Have you checked in with your doctor to make sure that you don't have medical issues that are contributing to the gain?
I have and am currently checking with my dr because I honestly don't understand it either. I gain SO fast and it's like I can't lose weight no matter wat. I've had my thyroid checked and everything came back normal. I just had all this blood work done. Everything came back normal and I stopped taking my bc this month to see if that was a factor. I can literally gain 50lbs in a year. This is very depressing but im working harder than ever to lose this weight. I go back to my dr next week to discuss my results.
And I'm really not sure how many steps I average bc I work a desk job and when I do get up I don't always have my phone on me but when I go to the gym I average over 10,000 steps bc my phone is on me there.
Have they checked you for PCOS?
We did talk about pcos at my last appt and will discuss again this coming Wednesday when I go back. I really think that may be it after researching it. I have all the symptoms.0 -
Lizabelle1212 wrote: »ashley92188 wrote: »Thanks for the great advice everybody! I'm sorry I should've added that I'm 5"11 290lbs. Right now I'm doin strictly cardio at the gym. Treadmill for 40mins at speeds of 3-3.5 then I get on this exercise bike for 36mins. I'm measuring my calories burned with my polar hrm which always tells me after those 2 workouts I've burned no less than 800cals-1000cals but my goal is atleast 700 bc I'd like to burn 3500 a week since I've been told 3500 burned is 1lb. Mind u I just got back into the gym maybe a week or 2 ago.
So it looks like I should be using the strength machines as well and stop being afraid to eat lol and eat my calories back or atleast some of them? I guess it's harder for me to consume them now bc I'm drinking water all day which is filling and I'm also eating more frequently throughout the day to keep my metabolism going. Eating small healthy meals every 2-3 hours as opposed to 2-3 big unhealthy meals that more than likely got me this way in the first place. I just started using my food scale and mfp. I may be off with measurements on a few items but for the most part I guess it's pretty accurate. Mfp also measures my daily steps atleast when I have my phone in hand which adds more calories burned daily.
My first concern is getting back down to a healthy weight but I do want to look good when I get there. I wasn't always this big. I used to be about 150 in hs then in college is when I was 160-170 then idk I started gaining gaining and gaining all while in denial never thinking I'd ever hit 300lbs but here I am. My eating habits never changed nor did my exercise level which has always been pretty much non existent but I guess my metabolism did n that's y I'm the way I am now. The weight gain happened over a period of about 5-6 years started in about 2009. And now I'm ready to get back in shape. I'm 26 and this isn't good nor is it healthy. I wanna be able to run and jump again and just be active so I kno the gym will definitely help get me back into shape. I just have to get to the point where I enjoy going.
Hey there, I have similar stats to you. I'm also 5'11" and currently at 280 (started at 299). It sounds like I don't work out quite as much as you, but I do work out usually 4-5 days a week, around 30-45 minutes each time. My total calorie intake is usually around 1900-2000, but my NET (after factoring calories burned during exercise) usually comes to around 1600, which is the goal MFP gave me for losing 2lbs per week. If you're only eating 1600 TOTAL, you can definitely eat more and still lose weight! I've been consistently losing approx. 2lbs per week. Feel free to friend me if you want, since we have similar stats and sounds like we also have similar goals! Always love finding new tall girl friends Good luck to you!
It won't let me add u. Add me.0 -
Y'know, I'm just here trying to help, not to play one upsmanship games with people who are self styled experts, quoting blocks from others with "no" "nope" "blah blah." Good lord. I'm available to be friended for those who'd like support. There's only so much I can do on the boards before the trolls start. *throws hands in air*
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OP: I am 5'9" and started at 251lbs a year ago. I'm currently at 210 (plateaued for 6 months, lol, but that was my own fault) but way healthier than I was at my lowest of 170. I started just by counting calories for a couple of months, before getting into any serious gym time. I joined a weight loss competition in the spring, did CrossFit 3X a week and ate around 1600-1800 calories. Now I'm running my first half marathon tomorrow!
Stick with whatever plan works for you, you'll see results! But keep in mind that heavy cardio is so hard on your joints (especially with extra weight), strength training is so much better and will help you melt inches! JMO!0 -
No way. 40 minutes of slow walking on the treadmill and recumbent bike for 36 minutes? You're walking slower than I walk from the train station to my office.ashley92188 wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »ashley92188 wrote: »the whole eat at a calorie defecit has been covered
but I have to ask how you are getting those calorie burns, because they seem rather high
fr'instance - it would take me around 24 mins on the elliptical at around 8kmh, a resistance of 17 out of 25 and a HR of 150-160 to burn 200 calories or so now
Treadmill and this bike thing. Treadmill 40mins and bike 36. Im goin by wat my heart rate monitor says when I'm done.
So 76 minutes total for 800?
Yes. Wednesday my watch said 848 when I was done. Sometimes it says 900 somethin. It depends on my incline, speed etc.
I'm sorry, but there is no way that's accurate.
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Yea my ankles tend to hurt a lot and my thighs.olivia_june wrote: »OP: I am 5'9" and started at 251lbs a year ago. I'm currently at 210 (plateaued for 6 months, lol, but that was my own fault) but way healthier than I was at my lowest of 170. I started just by counting calories for a couple of months, before getting into any serious gym time. I joined a weight loss competition in the spring, did CrossFit 3X a week and ate around 1600-1800 calories. Now I'm running my first half marathon tomorrow!
Stick with whatever plan works for you, you'll see results! But keep in mind that heavy cardio is so hard on your joints (especially with extra weight), strength training is so much better and will help you melt inches! JMO!
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No way. 40 minutes of slow walking on the treadmill and recumbent bike for 36 minutes? You're walking slower than I walk from the train station to my office.ashley92188 wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »ashley92188 wrote: »the whole eat at a calorie defecit has been covered
but I have to ask how you are getting those calorie burns, because they seem rather high
fr'instance - it would take me around 24 mins on the elliptical at around 8kmh, a resistance of 17 out of 25 and a HR of 150-160 to burn 200 calories or so now
Treadmill and this bike thing. Treadmill 40mins and bike 36. Im goin by wat my heart rate monitor says when I'm done.
So 76 minutes total for 800?
Yes. Wednesday my watch said 848 when I was done. Sometimes it says 900 somethin. It depends on my incline, speed etc.
I'm sorry, but there is no way that's accurate.
It's not that "slow" for me bc one I'm damn near 300lbs so walking at 3-3.5 is a big workout for me and my heart rate is pretty high. And with that bike it also has handles or wateva that work my arms as well. The faster I go with that my heart rate reaches over 200. So whether it's completely accurate or not I am burning alotta calories. Once my body gets used to these workouts of course it'll be less because I won't be working as hard and it'll be easier.0
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