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I started tracking 56 days ago and probably lost 2-3 real lbs. My tracker says 6, but considering the time of day I weighed the first day and now, etc, I don't think it's more than 3lbs. I would be very happy with 1lb every 10 days, but that's not really the pattern and I seem to be losing and gaining the same 1-2lbs.
It feels like I am in maintenance mode, but I don't feel like I am eating that much. I started out at 1400 calories and recently (last 4-5 days) switched to about 1200 calories. No difference. I started out at 199lbs and today I am at 194.
I am not exercising yet, but I have been eating a lot less than I used to (I maintained for the previous 6-8 months eating a lot). I'm not eating great, but I am tracking everything honestly. Am I overestimating by that much? I opened up my diary if anyone would take the time to look. Should I lower my calories? Raise them? I'd like to be able to lose some weight consistently without committing to exercise for the next 5-6 months.
Help, please!
It feels like I am in maintenance mode, but I don't feel like I am eating that much. I started out at 1400 calories and recently (last 4-5 days) switched to about 1200 calories. No difference. I started out at 199lbs and today I am at 194.
I am not exercising yet, but I have been eating a lot less than I used to (I maintained for the previous 6-8 months eating a lot). I'm not eating great, but I am tracking everything honestly. Am I overestimating by that much? I opened up my diary if anyone would take the time to look. Should I lower my calories? Raise them? I'd like to be able to lose some weight consistently without committing to exercise for the next 5-6 months.
Help, please!
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I started tracking 56 days ago and probably lost 2-3 real lbs. My tracker says 6, but considering the time of day I weighed the first day and now, etc, I don't think it's more than 3lbs. I would be very happy with 1lb every 10 days, but that's not really the pattern and I seem to be losing and gaining the same 1-2lbs.
It feels like I am in maintenance mode, but I don't feel like I am eating that much. I started out at 1400 calories and recently (last 4-5 days) switched to about 1200 calories. No difference. I started out at 199lbs and today I am at 194.
I am not exercising yet, but I have been eating a lot less than I used to (I maintained for the previous 6-8 months eating a lot). I'm not eating great, but I am tracking everything honestly. Am I overestimating by that much? I opened up my diary if anyone would take the time to look. Should I lower my calories? Raise them? I'd like to be able to lose some weight consistently without committing to exercise for the next 5-6 months.
Help, please!
Do you use a food scale? You have a lot of generic entries and I saw a quick add. This tells me you do not weigh your food. Bananas vary greatly in calorie content.0 -
queenliz99 wrote: »Danilynn1975 wrote: »Are you cold?
are you losing hair, fingernail changes?
Are you so tired you could sleep as an Olympic event?
are your eyelashes falling out, weird bloating?
do you have a lump in your throat?
and most importantly, have you hit some wall where no matter how hard you log, weigh and measure, work out through pain, tired, and exhaustion can't lose weight?
Go check your thyroid. Don't wait. Don't settle for living a half life of hell.
I have been unable to lose weight past where I am for 2 years. I log so faithfully it is unreal. exercise is a ritual. nothing worked, so I called it done, and have been maintaining/gaining/ping pong bounce with no change in diet between 153 and 164 for that same 2 years.
A lump in my throat as I type this could very well be cancer. They don't know, all they do know right now is it is on my right lobe of my thyroid which is swollen to nearly double it's size with a "normal TSH", which is only 1 test of about 7 for a thyroid panel. You have to fight to get the rest done.
At best right now they suspect I could have an auto-immune disorder called Hashimoto's as my weird stuff is a mix of both Hyperthyroidism and hypothyroidism.
Check your throat if any of this sounds like you. Plateaus that won't break? despite what you may read in these forums, it may not be your "failure to accurately log" your "weak exercise routine".
Please don't settle for faux science and get yourself checked out.
So, in the next few weeks, I get to be even more of a pincushion for the medical field, I'm going to drink gross stuff to light up my throat for scans and at some point have needles shoved into that growth to find out. Don't wait thinking it's you and "crap logging" that is causing this. It may just be your thyroid. a few blood tests beat the heck out of being told 1 day before your 40th birthday you might have cancer.
Disregard this
so you my new doctor? really don't recall seeing you in the exam room or when I got an ultrasound on my throat.
Please tell me how you became an expert on what my medical health is. I'd love to know how an enlarged diffuse thyroid 2 times it's normal size with a 2.1 cm growth is normal and to be disregarded.
enlighten me. please oh medical guru
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Danilynn1975 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Danilynn1975 wrote: »Are you cold?
are you losing hair, fingernail changes?
Are you so tired you could sleep as an Olympic event?
are your eyelashes falling out, weird bloating?
do you have a lump in your throat?
and most importantly, have you hit some wall where no matter how hard you log, weigh and measure, work out through pain, tired, and exhaustion can't lose weight?
Go check your thyroid. Don't wait. Don't settle for living a half life of hell.
I have been unable to lose weight past where I am for 2 years. I log so faithfully it is unreal. exercise is a ritual. nothing worked, so I called it done, and have been maintaining/gaining/ping pong bounce with no change in diet between 153 and 164 for that same 2 years.
A lump in my throat as I type this could very well be cancer. They don't know, all they do know right now is it is on my right lobe of my thyroid which is swollen to nearly double it's size with a "normal TSH", which is only 1 test of about 7 for a thyroid panel. You have to fight to get the rest done.
At best right now they suspect I could have an auto-immune disorder called Hashimoto's as my weird stuff is a mix of both Hyperthyroidism and hypothyroidism.
Check your throat if any of this sounds like you. Plateaus that won't break? despite what you may read in these forums, it may not be your "failure to accurately log" your "weak exercise routine".
Please don't settle for faux science and get yourself checked out.
So, in the next few weeks, I get to be even more of a pincushion for the medical field, I'm going to drink gross stuff to light up my throat for scans and at some point have needles shoved into that growth to find out. Don't wait thinking it's you and "crap logging" that is causing this. It may just be your thyroid. a few blood tests beat the heck out of being told 1 day before your 40th birthday you might have cancer.
Disregard this
so you my new doctor? really don't recall seeing you in the exam room or when I got an ultrasound on my throat.
I am sorry for your troubles but this does not address OP's question.0 -
You should not jump to assuming someone has a medical condition when you haven't even asked the most obvious questions first - like ARE YOU USING A FOOD SCALE.0
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i also have thyroid problems and would suggest if you get to a point where you simply cannot lose then i would defo go see a dr.....its vital that you get treatment for thyroid problems if thats what it is as the thyroid effects so many aspects...before i got treatment i put on weight even by looking at food, i felt so tired and cold and basically its a horrible existence...but as previously mentioned you may have to fight to get all the thyroid tests done....it took my mum actually shouting at the dr before any of them were done (no she's not crazy...her mother died due to undiagnosed hypothyroidism)0
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I don't think you're logging properly
There should be no cup measurements for solid food nor "servings" unless this is from a recipe you've entered yourself
You need a food scale and to weigh all solids including fruit etc
You need to choose from the database with care and cross check and never choose other people's recipes
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I posted that because it is important. not everything is because someone is negligent in their tracking. Not everyone is perfect. It is a valid thought.
Most thyroid patients are women, and millions go undiagnosed because they just don't know. No on tells people to check their throat for swelling. But breast health is pushed. thyroid health isn't. Thyroid health is extremely important.
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Danilynn1975 wrote: »I posted that because it is important. not everything is because someone is negligent in their tracking. Not everyone is perfect. It is a valid thought.
Most thyroid patients are women, and millions go undiagnosed because they just don't know. No on tells people to check their throat for swelling. But breast health is pushed. thyroid health isn't. Thyroid health is extremely important.
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Danilynn1975 wrote: »I posted that because it is important. not everything is because someone is negligent in their tracking. Not everyone is perfect. It is a valid thought.
Most thyroid patients are women, and millions go undiagnosed because they just don't know. No on tells people to check their throat for swelling. But breast health is pushed. thyroid health isn't. Thyroid health is extremely important.
It is a valid thought indeed but the obvious should be investigated first. Occam's razor states that among competing hypotheses, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected. Other, more complicated solutions may ultimately prove correct, but—in the absence of certainty—the fewer assumptions that are made, the better.
So OP - Do you have a food scale? I'm guessing no.
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Danilynn1975 wrote: »I posted that because it is important. not everything is because someone is negligent in their tracking. Not everyone is perfect. It is a valid thought.
Most thyroid patients are women, and millions go undiagnosed because they just don't know. No on tells people to check their throat for swelling. But breast health is pushed. thyroid health isn't. Thyroid health is extremely important.
It is a valid thought indeed but the obvious should be investigated first. Occam's razor states that among competing hypotheses, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected. Other, more complicated solutions may ultimately prove correct, but—in the absence of certainty—the fewer assumptions that are made, the better.
So OP - Do you have a food scale? I'm guessing no.
I was told that by this forum 18 months ago. Berated and took a lot of backlash. Not one person suggested it could be medical.
Being told you aren't a special snowflake and to suck it up buttercup and try harder like I and numerous other people daily on these boards are told may very well have let me get here. Scared to death it could be cancer.
So I would really like to not see anyone else beat themselves up and have potential health problems go unnoticed.0 -
Get a food scale. Weigh all your solids and only use measuring cups for your caloric liquids.0
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I was told that by this forum 18 months ago. Berated and took a lot of backlash. Not one person suggested it could be medical.
Being told you aren't a special snowflake and to suck it up buttercup and try harder like I and numerous other people daily on these boards are told may very well have let me get here. Scared to death it could be cancer.
So I would really like to not see anyone else beat themselves up and have potential health problems go unnoticed.
This is scientific method. And furthermore, I am a medical professional. Although no one can diagnose anyone over the internet, the most obvious reasons are investigated FIRST. If you walked into any doctor's office and stated your complaints, no competent doctor would jump to any conclusion. First you rule out possible reasons. Once those are out of the question, you move on to the next possible hypothesis.
Additionally, I'm sorry you had a bad time, but not everything is all about you.
And we have not heard yet whether or not the OP has food scale.
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Thank you everyone. I don't have a thyroid problem. I guess I do know it's the way I log, I just feel like I overestimate a lot. I do use a food scale but not for everything I eat because sometimes it's not feasible and sometimes I'm lazy about it. Then I quickadd some calories to make sure I overestimate. But not always. You're right, I need to log much more faithfully for another 50 days and see what happens.
Can I ask one other thing? What do you think my calorie goal should be while I am sedentary? On the lower or higher side of my weightless range? And are the TDEEs that important?
I'm really, really not looking for a quick fix. I am doing this, I just want to see a little bit of more consistency in my loss.0 -
assuming you are female, we need stats like age and height?0
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I'm going to recommend a calorie calculator that I've been using for this past year. It has worked like a charm, but you do have to be consistent. WEIGH EVERYTHING. I have a food scale and use it for everything, and you'd be surprised how "off" some things can be.
http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/
Just keep doing it and you will see results. It takes some time, but it's worth it in the end.0 -
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Danilynn1975 wrote: »Danilynn1975 wrote: »I posted that because it is important. not everything is because someone is negligent in their tracking. Not everyone is perfect. It is a valid thought.
Most thyroid patients are women, and millions go undiagnosed because they just don't know. No on tells people to check their throat for swelling. But breast health is pushed. thyroid health isn't. Thyroid health is extremely important.
It is a valid thought indeed but the obvious should be investigated first. Occam's razor states that among competing hypotheses, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected. Other, more complicated solutions may ultimately prove correct, but—in the absence of certainty—the fewer assumptions that are made, the better.
So OP - Do you have a food scale? I'm guessing no.
I was told that by this forum 18 months ago. Berated and took a lot of backlash. Not one person suggested it could be medical.
Being told you aren't a special snowflake and to suck it up buttercup and try harder like I and numerous other people daily on these boards are told may very well have let me get here. Scared to death it could be cancer.
So I would really like to not see anyone else beat themselves up and have potential health problems go unnoticed.
Lets not go off topic here.
It's always good to get blood work prior to starting any diet plan. But a the same time, only about 12% of people have a type of thyroid issue. So before going to dumb a ton of money into various test, it's best to address the most simple of issues. In the 5 years I have been on this forum, the two biggest issues the have lead to weight loss issues are inaccurate logging and inconsistent logging.
As others have already address, there seems to have some basic inconsistencies in her diary. She should probably address those first, and potentially get a blood panel. But the reason I am a huge fan of the basic check up is you can see your progress for cholesterol.
BTW Op, do you have any known medial condition such as PCOS, hypothroidism, insulin resistance?
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Danilynn1975 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Danilynn1975 wrote: »Are you cold?
are you losing hair, fingernail changes?
Are you so tired you could sleep as an Olympic event?
are your eyelashes falling out, weird bloating?
do you have a lump in your throat?
and most importantly, have you hit some wall where no matter how hard you log, weigh and measure, work out through pain, tired, and exhaustion can't lose weight?
Go check your thyroid. Don't wait. Don't settle for living a half life of hell.
I have been unable to lose weight past where I am for 2 years. I log so faithfully it is unreal. exercise is a ritual. nothing worked, so I called it done, and have been maintaining/gaining/ping pong bounce with no change in diet between 153 and 164 for that same 2 years.
A lump in my throat as I type this could very well be cancer. They don't know, all they do know right now is it is on my right lobe of my thyroid which is swollen to nearly double it's size with a "normal TSH", which is only 1 test of about 7 for a thyroid panel. You have to fight to get the rest done.
At best right now they suspect I could have an auto-immune disorder called Hashimoto's as my weird stuff is a mix of both Hyperthyroidism and hypothyroidism.
Check your throat if any of this sounds like you. Plateaus that won't break? despite what you may read in these forums, it may not be your "failure to accurately log" your "weak exercise routine".
Please don't settle for faux science and get yourself checked out.
So, in the next few weeks, I get to be even more of a pincushion for the medical field, I'm going to drink gross stuff to light up my throat for scans and at some point have needles shoved into that growth to find out. Don't wait thinking it's you and "crap logging" that is causing this. It may just be your thyroid. a few blood tests beat the heck out of being told 1 day before your 40th birthday you might have cancer.
Disregard this
so you my new doctor? really don't recall seeing you in the exam room or when I got an ultrasound on my throat.
Please tell me how you became an expert on what my medical health is. I'd love to know how an enlarged diffuse thyroid 2 times it's normal size with a 2.1 cm growth is normal and to be disregarded.
enlighten me. please oh medical guru
Are you OP's Doctor?
Didn't think so.
You're the one dispensing medical advice and making excuses for OP based on your personal farked up medical situation, right?
OP I concur. Disregard this nutty advice. You don't have a thyroid problem. That person ^^^ does.0 -
To lose weight you need to burn more calories than you consume. A pound of stored fat is about 3500 calories, so you would need to be in a calorie deficit of 3500 calories per week to lose 1 lb each week.
If your logging shows you are in a deficit but you are not losing weight, you are likely not logging accurately.
I suggest getting a food scale to accurately measure calories. As an example, the cream cheese on my morning bagel looks like 2 tablespoons (30 g) but when I weight it, ends up being more like 45 - 50 g, a difference of 40-53 calories. Meat, if not weighed, is very difficult to gauge as well. All these calories add up, and can put you in a calorie surplus if you're not careful.0 -
believe what you want. it's real. and often missed.0
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