Eating under 700 calories? :o

cwolfman13

I wouldn't listen to these people. I eat 400 - 900 and I am fine. Twice a month I go out to eat with friends and can eat up to 3000. I gain a pound or two but it is just water. It goes away with some exercise and a waterpill (because I can retain water like a mofo). Do what you have to.

Clueless....and I'd say most likely ED.

gonnamakeanewaccount

Let's get real here. We all know that the person you are referring to in this post is yourself. It's okay to ask for help, but you have to own up to it.

Of course we do, but why do we have to call her out on it? She's getting the same advice either way and if this made it possible for her to ask for the help, why should she be prevented from doing that?

I'm recovering from an eating disorder myself. The first step is owning up to it and telling yourself that you need to get help. Pulling the "My friend eats 500 calories a day. What should she do?" isn't doing that.

thedietguru

I wouldn't listen to these people. I eat 400 - 900 and I am fine. Twice a month I go out to eat with friends and can eat up to 3000. I gain a pound or two but it is just water. It goes away with some exercise and a waterpill (because I can retain water like a mofo). Do what you have to.

This person should be banned on the basis of sheer stupidity. She's destroying her thryoid and hormones. She's creating a body that will require she eat 700 calories a day for the next 10 years.. and then 500 a day as her metabolism naturally drops from age and from repeated abuse to her hormones.

DON'T LISTEN TO THIS or be prepared for some serious health issues down the road.

Sabine_Stroehm

I wouldn't listen to these people. I eat 400 - 900 and I am fine. Twice a month I go out to eat with friends and can eat up to 3000. I gain a pound or two but it is just water. It goes away with some exercise and a waterpill (because I can retain water like a mofo). Do what you have to.

I'm guessing we're talking to a teen about a teen.
Whatever you do, DON'T listen to this person. She clearly needs to see someone about her eating issues.

Please consider talking to someone yourself. Consider talking to someone live, in person, and talking to them honestly about your depression and your weight issues.

Lleldiranne

ETA: oops, forgot we were talking about a hypothetical person, and addressed all the answers to you :blushing: Advice is still the same, though. I hope you can pass it on to whomever needs the advice

I'm shocked at how many people skipped/missed that depression was the cause of eating so little and skipped right to why 700 cal is not good (maybe I shouldn't be surprised, but I am )

Anyway, to answer your direct question, I doubt you're gaining fat on 1250 calories a day. It's probably water and other causes.

I suffer from depression as well, and I know that it creates a bad downward cycle - depression can cause me to not eat, which leads to worse depression. So kudos for taking a step and being aware of it! Add in some exercise that you enjoy, partly to help you get your body where you want it, but more for your emotional health. Again, I understand how hard it can be to get up and exercise when you're depressed, but I also know how even just a walk to the park, with some time to watch the ducks (or whatever) can lift your spirits.

And if you haven't seen a professional yet about the depression, it might be a good idea. A good LCSW will help find underlying causes and help train you to deal with the depression in a healthy way. Meds may or may not be necessary, so don't stress about that, either :flowerforyou:

chanel1twenty

Okay I need some help..
Lets say someone was eating under 700 calories a day, sometimes under 600. Because of depression.
We all know this isn't healthy, but personally I don't believe in starvation mode until you are severely underweight.
This person lost 6 lbs in 1 week. but wanted to start eating healthy again.
If she just one day started eating 1200-1300 calories like she's supposed to. would she gain all the weight back?
Yesterday she ate 1,250 calories but also drank a lot of water and the scale read she gained 2.6 pounds.. is it because of her lack or nutrition or water weight and to much sodium?

I don't want any mean comments or anyone saying how terrible she was abusing her body because it wont make a difference.. I just need some advice on this.
Thanks in advance and feel free to add me

Yep, the 2.6 is just water weight and bloat from sodium.
You may not believe in starvation mode unless one's extremely underweight, but unfortunately, scientific fact does not care what you personally believe. A 500lb person can go into starvation mode. Starvation mode is merely when a body isn't getting what it needs, and begins sustaining itself off of it's own muscle. In turn killing the metabolism because your body has to hold on tightly to anything and everything it's receiving and the body can't afford to burn it!
You say you don't think this will happen except to an underweight person, but it actually is most likely to happen to a bigger person because a bigger person requires more than an underweight person. Starvation mode is very misunderstood, and hardly worth mentioning for 'your friend's' situation. Unhealthy is unhealthy!
A sedentary 230lb woman needs way more than 500-600 calories, as you know, and yes at first she will lose weight (mostly muscle so bye, bye sexy toned body!), but a 230lb under consuming woman will soon begin not losing weight, and the weight lost is not the kind 'your friend' wants to lose.

You definitely need to up the calorie intake, but do it gradually. And get your booty moving!! It will help repair your body and is medically proven to release endorphins and serotonin, thus helping with depression.

Good luck! I hope all the responses you've received are helpful!
(Prepare yourself for the judgmental a-holes...I smell them coming now. Just ignore ignore ignore)

Chanel

Lleldiranne

Let's get real here. We all know that the person you are referring to in this post is yourself. It's okay to ask for help, but you have to own up to it.

Of course we do, but why do we have to call her out on it? She's getting the same advice either way and if this made it possible for her to ask for the help, why should she be prevented from doing that?

I'm recovering from an eating disorder myself. The first step is owning up to it and telling yourself that you need to get help. Pulling the "My friend eats 500 calories a day. What should she do?" isn't doing that.

You missed that the 700 calories was related to depression? It might not be an ED of any sort, and it's even harder to ask for help for depression and other mental illness than just about anything.

chanel1twenty

I wouldn't listen to these people. I eat 400 - 900 and I am fine. Twice a month I go out to eat with friends and can eat up to 3000. I gain a pound or two but it is just water. It goes away with some exercise and a waterpill (because I can retain water like a mofo). Do what you have to.

I did this same thing in high school. When I discussed it with my counselor I ended up in an ED treatment facility.
So, I mean, if that's what you want then by all means.

krithsai

I wouldn't listen to these people. I eat 400 - 900 and I am fine. Twice a month I go out to eat with friends and can eat up to 3000. I gain a pound or two but it is just water. It goes away with some exercise and a waterpill (because I can retain water like a mofo). Do what you have to.

Most people would struggle to eat 3000 calories in a meal unless their body is so starved that they feel the compulsive need to binge at that meal. How about splitting those 3000 calories into say 8-10 days and start eating 300-400 calories more each day rather than go mental at one meal? If you really can survive at 400 calories a day, either you have some super power or you are lying.

MaydayParadeGirl

I love how people jumped on teh whole 'OP is talking about themselves' Maybe they really DO have a friend who has this problem...If my friend was depressed I wouldn't be blasting their name out here for everyone to see so they could getworried about it. I also wouldn't want people calling me out on it and accusing me of having an eating disorder if I was the one I was actually talking about. You who are accusing her of having an eating disorder obviously DON'T understand depression. You can be depressed and completely shut down and stop eating and NOT have an eating disorder, because you realize that it's not RIGHT to stop eating. There is a fine line and for you to come in here with your eating disorder stories and assume you know anything about someone whose DEPRESSED is really not okay. You don't tell that to someone whose depressed, you're just going to make them more upset and down on themselves. Yeah lets give guilt to the individual who suffers from depression...great idea.

Sabine_Stroehm

Let's get real here. We all know that the person you are referring to in this post is yourself. It's okay to ask for help, but you have to own up to it.

Of course we do, but why do we have to call her out on it? She's getting the same advice either way and if this made it possible for her to ask for the help, why should she be prevented from doing that?

I'm recovering from an eating disorder myself. The first step is owning up to it and telling yourself that you need to get help. Pulling the "My friend eats 500 calories a day. What should she do?" isn't doing that.

You missed that the 700 calories was related to depression? It might not be an ED of any sort, and it's even harder to ask for help for depression and other mental illness than just about anything.

I reviewed her posts.

tinak33

I wouldn't listen to these people. I eat 400 - 900 and I am fine. Twice a month I go out to eat with friends and can eat up to 3000. I gain a pound or two but it is just water. It goes away with some exercise and a waterpill (because I can retain water like a mofo). Do what you have to.

WTF!?! :noway:

MaydayParadeGirl

Let's get real here. We all know that the person you are referring to in this post is yourself. It's okay to ask for help, but you have to own up to it.

Of course we do, but why do we have to call her out on it? She's getting the same advice either way and if this made it possible for her to ask for the help, why should she be prevented from doing that?

I'm recovering from an eating disorder myself. The first step is owning up to it and telling yourself that you need to get help. Pulling the "My friend eats 500 calories a day. What should she do?" isn't doing that.

You missed that the 700 calories was related to depression? It might not be an ED of any sort, and it's even harder to ask for help for depression and other mental illness than just about anything.

I reviewed her posts.

regardless of if she owns up to it or not, if it even is about her, getting help for what you're assuming is an eating disorder isn't going to help if this person doesn't seek help for the depression! If the depression is what is making this person not eat, then that stands to reason that teh depression should be looked into. It's great to get help for an eating disorder when that is the underlying problem, but if you fix the eating disorder and not the depression this person is just going to sink right back into that cycle. The depression should have stood out the most in this statement honestly, not the damn calories.

Mia_RagazzaTosta

I wouldn't listen to these people. I eat 400 - 900 and I am fine. Twice a month I go out to eat with friends and can eat up to 3000. I gain a pound or two but it is just water. It goes away with some exercise and a waterpill (because I can retain water like a mofo). Do what you have to.

WTF!?! :noway:

She deactivated...but still

NO

SyntonicGarden

Apart from the comment about eating 400 - 900/day and the "Own up to it" one, I agree with most of everything else that was said. If it's you, if it's your friend, it doesn't matter. I applaud you for reaching out and asking for help, as it might encourage others to ask for help too.

I agree with the others about eating no less than 1200 at 230. Eating at 700 might be doable for about 2 - 3 days, before getting so cranky that the hands are thrown in the air and the binge ensues. Then, 10,000 calories later - chips, soda, chili cheese dogs, ice cream, - whatever the vice that sometimes eaten in secret/shame, the guilt festers and we're back at 600 cals again. I'm not 100% sure that that's the pattern here. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a cycle of drastically cutting back and then getting frustrated and "messing up." (Research "Binge Eating Disorder" and if the shoe fits, if help can be sought out, it's probably not a bad idea to consider professional help. I know someone's going to cry about my recommending therapy, but it helps some fix their relationship with food, especially if the issue runs deeper than eating a whole bag of BBQ chips during "that time" of the month.)

If professional help isn't an option (time, money, availability), then take a look at the success stories on here and perhaps reach out via private message to those who started where you're at and have been successful. They'll probably tell you that their success happened by changing the foods that they ate, exercising more, drinking water, and eating at a reasonable caloric level, where "reasonable" was most certainly a net of more than 900/day. (I'm hoping that's the case, as it seems to be what I've seen.)

Others have been successful, You can be successful too. You can do this.

Sabine_Stroehm

Let's get real here. We all know that the person you are referring to in this post is yourself. It's okay to ask for help, but you have to own up to it.

Of course we do, but why do we have to call her out on it? She's getting the same advice either way and if this made it possible for her to ask for the help, why should she be prevented from doing that?

I'm recovering from an eating disorder myself. The first step is owning up to it and telling yourself that you need to get help. Pulling the "My friend eats 500 calories a day. What should she do?" isn't doing that.

You missed that the 700 calories was related to depression? It might not be an ED of any sort, and it's even harder to ask for help for depression and other mental illness than just about anything.

I reviewed her posts.

regardless of if she owns up to it or not, if it even is about her, getting help for what you're assuming is an eating disorder isn't going to help if this person doesn't seek help for the depression! If the depression is what is making this person not eat, then that stands to reason that teh depression should be looked into. It's great to get help for an eating disorder when that is the underlying problem, but if you fix the eating disorder and not the depression this person is just going to sink right back into that cycle. The depression should have stood out the most in this statement honestly, not the damn calories.

Is this somehow a reply to me? I suggested she see someone about her depression. She's probably a teen. I suggested she talk to a real live person, rather than strangers on the internet in weight loss mode.

MaydayParadeGirl

Let's get real here. We all know that the person you are referring to in this post is yourself. It's okay to ask for help, but you have to own up to it.

Of course we do, but why do we have to call her out on it? She's getting the same advice either way and if this made it possible for her to ask for the help, why should she be prevented from doing that?

I'm recovering from an eating disorder myself. The first step is owning up to it and telling yourself that you need to get help. Pulling the "My friend eats 500 calories a day. What should she do?" isn't doing that.

You missed that the 700 calories was related to depression? It might not be an ED of any sort, and it's even harder to ask for help for depression and other mental illness than just about anything.

I reviewed her posts.

regardless of if she owns up to it or not, if it even is about her, getting help for what you're assuming is an eating disorder isn't going to help if this person doesn't seek help for the depression! If the depression is what is making this person not eat, then that stands to reason that teh depression should be looked into. It's great to get help for an eating disorder when that is the underlying problem, but if you fix the eating disorder and not the depression this person is just going to sink right back into that cycle. The depression should have stood out the most in this statement honestly, not the damn calories.

Is this somehow a reply to me? I suggested she see someone about her depression. She's probably a teen. I suggested she talk to a real live person, rather than strangers on the internet in weight loss mode.

this is to everyone accusing the girl of having an eating disorder, lying and saying it's just a friend when you don't have any real clue other than past experience (you in a general term for everyone whose saying it) and everyone who is just focussing on the calories. That shouldn't be what this is about, and I didn't see anything up there about getting help from a professional and it's really kind of petty of you to think that she's a teenager, why just because she's depressed? Nothing in any of the posts suggests at age.

Sabine_Stroehm

Let's get real here. We all know that the person you are referring to in this post is yourself. It's okay to ask for help, but you have to own up to it.

Of course we do, but why do we have to call her out on it? She's getting the same advice either way and if this made it possible for her to ask for the help, why should she be prevented from doing that?

I'm recovering from an eating disorder myself. The first step is owning up to it and telling yourself that you need to get help. Pulling the "My friend eats 500 calories a day. What should she do?" isn't doing that.

You missed that the 700 calories was related to depression? It might not be an ED of any sort, and it's even harder to ask for help for depression and other mental illness than just about anything.

I reviewed her posts.

regardless of if she owns up to it or not, if it even is about her, getting help for what you're assuming is an eating disorder isn't going to help if this person doesn't seek help for the depression! If the depression is what is making this person not eat, then that stands to reason that teh depression should be looked into. It's great to get help for an eating disorder when that is the underlying problem, but if you fix the eating disorder and not the depression this person is just going to sink right back into that cycle. The depression should have stood out the most in this statement honestly, not the damn calories.

Is this somehow a reply to me? I suggested she see someone about her depression. She's probably a teen. I suggested she talk to a real live person, rather than strangers on the internet in weight loss mode.

this is to everyone accusing the girl of having an eating disorder, lying and saying it's just a friend when you don't have any real clue other than past experience (you in a general term for everyone whose saying it) and everyone who is just focussing on the calories. That shouldn't be what this is about, and I didn't see anything up there about getting help from a professional and it's really kind of petty of you to think that she's a teenager, why just because she's depressed? Nothing in any of the posts suggests at age.

Let me see if I can make this more clear:
I REVIEWED HER POSTS AS IN HER POSTING HISTORY. (This is what you quoted above, btw. You replied to me).
She's maybe 18. Tops. If you want to play internet therapist with a stranger, who's likely a teen, based on precious little information go for it. To me it's reckless and unwise. Which is why *I* suggested she talk to someone IN REAL LIFE.

ps: we're done here.

MaydayParadeGirl

Let's get real here. We all know that the person you are referring to in this post is yourself. It's okay to ask for help, but you have to own up to it.

Of course we do, but why do we have to call her out on it? She's getting the same advice either way and if this made it possible for her to ask for the help, why should she be prevented from doing that?

I'm recovering from an eating disorder myself. The first step is owning up to it and telling yourself that you need to get help. Pulling the "My friend eats 500 calories a day. What should she do?" isn't doing that.

You missed that the 700 calories was related to depression? It might not be an ED of any sort, and it's even harder to ask for help for depression and other mental illness than just about anything.

I reviewed her posts.

regardless of if she owns up to it or not, if it even is about her, getting help for what you're assuming is an eating disorder isn't going to help if this person doesn't seek help for the depression! If the depression is what is making this person not eat, then that stands to reason that teh depression should be looked into. It's great to get help for an eating disorder when that is the underlying problem, but if you fix the eating disorder and not the depression this person is just going to sink right back into that cycle. The depression should have stood out the most in this statement honestly, not the damn calories.

Is this somehow a reply to me? I suggested she see someone about her depression. She's probably a teen. I suggested she talk to a real live person, rather than strangers on the internet in weight loss mode.

this is to everyone accusing the girl of having an eating disorder, lying and saying it's just a friend when you don't have any real clue other than past experience (you in a general term for everyone whose saying it) and everyone who is just focussing on the calories. That shouldn't be what this is about, and I didn't see anything up there about getting help from a professional and it's really kind of petty of you to think that she's a teenager, why just because she's depressed? Nothing in any of the posts suggests at age.

Let me see if I can make this more clear:
I REVIEWED HER POSTS AS IN HER POSTING HISTORY. (This is what you quoted above, btw. You replied to me).
She's maybe 18. Tops. If you want to play internet therapist with a stranger, who's likely a teen, based on precious little information go for it. To me it's reckless and unwise.

You can't figure out how old someone is from posts on a damn website for one thing and for another thing I said she should get help for her depression did I not? Yeah I did, like six times...so go back and review your ****. You guys are the ones who are going on and on about hwo she has an eating disorder. You're the ones diagnosing her, she straight up said the person she is posting about has depression, and I said the person who was being posted about should get help for the depression, which we knwo for a fact this person has. You're the one playing internet therapist trying to diagnos a person, not me.

Sabine_Stroehm

Let's get real here. We all know that the person you are referring to in this post is yourself. It's okay to ask for help, but you have to own up to it.

Of course we do, but why do we have to call her out on it? She's getting the same advice either way and if this made it possible for her to ask for the help, why should she be prevented from doing that?

I'm recovering from an eating disorder myself. The first step is owning up to it and telling yourself that you need to get help. Pulling the "My friend eats 500 calories a day. What should she do?" isn't doing that.

You missed that the 700 calories was related to depression? It might not be an ED of any sort, and it's even harder to ask for help for depression and other mental illness than just about anything.

I reviewed her posts.

regardless of if she owns up to it or not, if it even is about her, getting help for what you're assuming is an eating disorder isn't going to help if this person doesn't seek help for the depression! If the depression is what is making this person not eat, then that stands to reason that teh depression should be looked into. It's great to get help for an eating disorder when that is the underlying problem, but if you fix the eating disorder and not the depression this person is just going to sink right back into that cycle. The depression should have stood out the most in this statement honestly, not the damn calories.

Is this somehow a reply to me? I suggested she see someone about her depression. She's probably a teen. I suggested she talk to a real live person, rather than strangers on the internet in weight loss mode.

this is to everyone accusing the girl of having an eating disorder, lying and saying it's just a friend when you don't have any real clue other than past experience (you in a general term for everyone whose saying it) and everyone who is just focussing on the calories. That shouldn't be what this is about, and I didn't see anything up there about getting help from a professional and it's really kind of petty of you to think that she's a teenager, why just because she's depressed? Nothing in any of the posts suggests at age.

Let me see if I can make this more clear:
I REVIEWED HER POSTS AS IN HER POSTING HISTORY. (This is what you quoted above, btw. You replied to me).
She's maybe 18. Tops. If you want to play internet therapist with a stranger, who's likely a teen, based on precious little information go for it. To me it's reckless and unwise.

You can't figure out how old someone is from posts on a damn website for one thing and for another thing I said she should get help for her depression did I not? Yeah I did, like six times...so go back and review your ****. You guys are the ones who are going on and on about hwo she has an eating disorder. You're the ones diagnosing her, she straight up said the person she is posting about has depression, and I said the person who was being posted about should get help for the depression, which we knwo for a fact this person has. You're the one playing internet therapist trying to diagnos a person, not me.

You haven't a clue. We're done. You needn't reply to me.

murphy612

The person you described needs to seek help for her depression before she starts worrying about her weight. I can speak from experience. Once I faced my depression and sought help, I was able to focus on my body and my eating and exercise. Once I did that, the weight has been coming off for the past 7 months.

So far the most rational post I've seen. Treat the cause of the under eating first and quit worrying about how to increase calories or if it's a real gain, etc.

chanel1twenty

Anyone on a site like MFP complaining about/claiming depression needs to take the advice of my psychiatrist, and the proof from my personal experience, and EXERCISE. It's the best cure, proven to release endorphins and serotonin and have a great effect on mood. I agree that the depression needs taken care of, but I'd bet a billion bucks that the depression is caused, in part, by self-esteem related to weight issues.
The exercise will help the brain chemicals and you'll end up eating more because the more active you are, the hungrier you are!

Look! I just solved the depression problem and need to eat more with one solution and without insulting or annoying anyone! Yay me!