Weight training seems feminine to me.
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Then why do so many women whine "I'd strength train, but I don't want to get buuuuullllllkyyyyyyy!"?...Still, the vanity involved in pushing weights around a gym to achieve a certain body shape seems way more feminine than masculine to me....
That's what I'm wondering
The point isn't that bodybuilders look feminine. The point is that being concerned with one's appearance is considered to be feminine.0 -
I've always thought that being concerned with one's appearance was equated with narcissm. The term is derived from Narcissus, who was a character in Greek mythology. Strangely enough, Narcissus was a man.The point isn't that bodybuilders look feminine. The point is that being concerned with one's appearance is considered to be feminine.0 -
I lift so I can eat more. True story.0
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Well Fitness and bodybuilding competitions are really nothing more than pageants. Being judged on physiques and not on actual talent or physical strength.
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Well Fitness and bodybuilding competitions are really nothing more than pageants. Being judged on physiques and not on actual talent or physical strength.
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Right. Strength training, in order to be able to do something masculine, seems in line with traditional gender roles. Weight lifting/body building for appearance seems feminine. Guys do have a raw deal - we want them to look good, but we don't want to see them TRYING to look good.
Meanwhile, UFC/getting one's face punched in and punching in other men's faces is barbaric, senseless, violent, primitive . . . and really, really, really HOT.0 -
Well Fitness and bodybuilding competitions are really nothing more than pageants. Being judged on physiques and not on actual talent or physical strength.
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Right. Strength training, in order to be able to do something masculine, seems in line with traditional gender roles. Weight lifting/body building for appearance seems feminine. Guys do have a raw deal - we want them to look good, but we don't want to see them TRYING to look good.
Meanwhile, UFC/getting one's face punched in and punching in other men's faces is barbaric, senseless, violent, primitive . . . and really, really, really HOT.
So you think that gender roles should be rigidly defined? People of both genders should stick to roles traditionally defined as ok for them? No one should challenge or cross gender boundaries?
Just asking for clarification, because it seemed like you were spouting some sexist claptrap from another century there for a moment.....0 -
i completely understand where your coming from and i guess theres some truth to it.
but personally i think the guys who are 35 plus and getting thier face beat in chasing some rediculous and out of reach UFC dream that are just a little more sad.
not entirely sure what the point of this thread is
I think the topic is endearing. I like men who care about their appearance at least a little, and I don't think there is an expiration date on anyone's dream.
people can dream as much as they want.
happen to have a good friends who's UFC dream is causing a lot of phyical pain/problems when it intersects with reality.
i'd never tell him to stop, but at some point, like when your risking blindness, perhaps one should rethink things.
A lot of sports have age categories, and you can compete as long as you're able to. I engage in some risky sports. They wouldn't be less risky if I was under 35. I could stay safely on my couch instead of risking falling, hypothermia, and drowning, but that doesn't sound like much fun to me.
i'm going to assume your risk of drowning in is marginal at best.
getting punched in the eye is basically a given in MMA training.
i don't think were comparing apples to apples.
i don't care how people train or whatever (pointless) reason they may do it for, but you should be real about what your risking, especially if you have kids0 -
i completely understand where your coming from and i guess theres some truth to it.
but personally i think the guys who are 35 plus and getting thier face beat in chasing some rediculous and out of reach UFC dream that are just a little more sad.
not entirely sure what the point of this thread is
I think the topic is endearing. I like men who care about their appearance at least a little, and I don't think there is an expiration date on anyone's dream.
people can dream as much as they want.
happen to have a good friends who's UFC dream is causing a lot of phyical pain/problems when it intersects with reality.
i'd never tell him to stop, but at some point, like when your risking blindness, perhaps one should rethink things.
A lot of sports have age categories, and you can compete as long as you're able to. I engage in some risky sports. They wouldn't be less risky if I was under 35. I could stay safely on my couch instead of risking falling, hypothermia, and drowning, but that doesn't sound like much fun to me.
i'm going to assume your risk of drowning in is marginal at best.
getting punched in the eye is basically a given in MMA training.
i don't think were comparing apples to apples.
i don't care how people train or whatever (pointless) reason they may do it for, but you should be real about what your risking, especially if you have kids
We're talking about adults making informed choices to take risks, whether it's getting punched in the eye or drowning. I say yes to making your own choices. You have a right to express your condescension, nonetheless.0 -
Feminine:
In a way. I know chicks who deadlift more than that, and they don't look like they are about to bust a vein doing it.0 -
Still, the vanity involved in pushing weights around a gym to achieve a certain body shape seems way more feminine than masculine to me.
So. what you're basically saying is that you find the preoccupation of some men who's primary goal in using weight training is to look a certain way so that they can show off their hard, oiled bodies in various states of undress predominantly to other, usually young men and then get admiring comments a bit...feminine?
I see.0 -
Still, the vanity involved in pushing weights around a gym to achieve a certain body shape seems way more feminine than masculine to me.
...show off their hard, oiled bodies in various states of undress...
In for this.0 -
Feminine:
Feminine:
Feminine:
Yeah, you're right. Case closed.
Their muscles are nearly as big as mine.0 -
Heh. I tell my trainer he's a girl all the time, especially when he talks about trying to buy shirts to fit over his biceps. But yeah, people are pretty much just people and occasionally we break up various things and assign them to one sex or another but it's usually pretty random. We just come up with different words for when the non-assigned sex does it too so it's not as noticible.0
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The guys in the gym strength training for boxing, wrestling, football, UFC, etc. - THEY seem traditionally masculine - but the ones here to look good, get their plus points for being "metro."
I'm so glad you can see into the minds of everyone!
Like, this guy over here, who has spinal degeneration, but finds that the stronger his supporting muscles get, the less stress is on his spine. That turns into more days he's able to get up and go to work instead of lying in bed in pain.
Or that guy, over there, who has joint pain due rheumatoid arthritis, and finds that certain motions reduce inflammation.
And this guy, who's in the military, and it's his job to protect your *kitten*, and doesn't want to lose his strength when he's off-duty.
Or this other man training for an ironman, because his father and three uncles all had a heart attack at 40, and wants to be around for kids.
After all, that's a lot less masculine than throwing a ball around the field, or beating the snot out of someone for no reason. :drinker:0 -
I like to weight train because I like the benefits of it and my sport is physically demanding. Training for me increases energy levels, improved vascular / nervous system, getting stronger, going longer, ect. I also like to look good as well. I mean think about it... how many people want to look bad? How many people woke up today and said to themselves that they want to look bad. Im sure few will fit in this category. So with that said how can someone make their body look good without putting it under some kind of stress. So I do not consider weight training masculine nor feminine. I will say though that when I think of weight training I think of the ancient greeks.... those statues chiseled from stone of the ancient greek athletes with lean mass. If I were to put together a power point on the history of weight training this would probably be one of the first slides.0
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Sure... I see loads of females that look like me...0
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The guys in the gym strength training for boxing, wrestling, football, UFC, etc. - THEY seem traditionally masculine - but the ones here to look good, get their plus points for being "metro."
I'm so glad you can see into the minds of everyone!
Like, this guy over here, who has spinal degeneration, but finds that the stronger his supporting muscles get, the less stress is on his spine. That turns into more days he's able to get up and go to work instead of lying in bed in pain.
Or that guy, over there, who has joint pain due rheumatoid arthritis, and finds that certain motions reduce inflammation.
And this guy, who's in the military, and it's his job to protect your *kitten*, and doesn't want to lose his strength when he's off-duty.
Or this other man training for an ironman, because his father and three uncles all had a heart attack at 40, and wants to be around for kids.
After all, that's a lot more masculline than throwing a ball around the field, or beating the snot out of someone for no reason. :drinker:
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The point isn't that bodybuilders look feminine. The point is that being concerned with one's appearance is considered to be feminine.
If this is your point then anything guys do for appearance sake would be considered feminine. Grooming of our hair, shaving, dressing decent, clipping our nails, bathing, ect.... based on your comment would you also consider these actions feminine as well? I mean these are all actions that we do / take because we are concerned with how we look, yes?0 -
The point isn't that bodybuilders look feminine. The point is that being concerned with one's appearance is considered to be feminine.
If this is your point then anything guys do for appearance sake would be considered feminine. Grooming of our hair, shaving, dressing decent, clipping our nails, bathing, ect.... based on your comment would you also consider these actions feminine as well? I mean these are all actions that we do / take because we are concerned with how we look, yes?
I said that, however I'm not the original poster, so it's my summation of the point of the thread. The idea that vanity is feminine is a common stereotype. I don't care if vanity is feminine or not - I care how men look, and smell, and I prefer men who take care of themselves.0 -
i'd say a man that could admit that perhaps its a bit on the feminine side and not really give a **** what that says about him is masculine enough.0
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Well, if we're going to go down that road, we wouldn't have women in the weight room. According to "traditional gender roles", they should be barefoot in the kitchen making me a sammich!Right. Strength training, in order to be able to do something masculine, seems in line with traditional gender roles. Weight lifting/body building for appearance seems feminine. Guys do have a raw deal - we want them to look good, but we don't want to see them TRYING to look good.0 -
Well Fitness and bodybuilding competitions are really nothing more than pageants. Being judged on physiques and not on actual talent or physical strength.
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Right. Strength training, in order to be able to do something masculine, seems in line with traditional gender roles. Weight lifting/body building for appearance seems feminine. Guys do have a raw deal - we want them to look good, but we don't want to see them TRYING to look good.
Meanwhile, UFC/getting one's face punched in and punching in other men's faces is barbaric, senseless, violent, primitive . . . and really, really, really HOT.
So you think that gender roles should be rigidly defined? People of both genders should stick to roles traditionally defined as ok for them? No one should challenge or cross gender boundaries?
Just asking for clarification, because it seemed like you were spouting some sexist claptrap from another century there for a moment.....
I'm not suggeesting that gender roles SHOULD be clearly defined, but that we live in a world where we do seem to have gender boundaries. That may change. If you disagree, walk into any Toys R Us - the way our society plays out its gender roles is more clearly demonstrated in the toys we buy our children than any academic study, career report, etc.0 -
This has my vote for being the stupidest thread I've seen on MFP all day.0
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Totally true. Functional strength should be everything, aesthetics are a bonus. I used to be all about that bodybuilding, then I realized I couldn't jump very high or run very fast or climb very far. Then everything changed and I'm so happy to be a man again.0
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It's not just about appearance for me or most of the men I know here. I freaking love setting PRs. It makes me happier than a new dress. I love being strong. The appearance thing is just a kick-*kitten* side effect.
most amazing answer ever!!!!!0 -
There are plenty of guys in the gym who are there only to look good, and have no other sports-related goals. This point seems moot to me.0
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apparently the OP felt the need to tell everyone that's not the kind of guy she goes for0
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apparently the OP felt the need to tell everyone that's not the kind of guy she goes for
I've not said anything about the kind of guy I "go for" - I'm not looking. I've said that the preening side of weight lifting seems feminine. Why would a person think that feminine means unattractive? (I did say that UFC was hot, but that was a casual observation, not a dating plan or comprehensive overview.)
I am also not advocating the perpetuation of traditional gender boundaries, but I'd have to be in polite denial not to notice them.0
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