TDEE calculator at IIFYM is full on spam engine, where's that other one?

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  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
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    segacs wrote: »
    Scooby's accurate calculator says my TDEE should be ~1650 at the "lightly active" setting. My true TDEE is more like 1800-1900, which is what Scooby says I should be at if I were "moderately" active.

    I have a sedentary desk job, and I have been exercising only a limited amount these past couple of months due to injury. Fitbit tells me I walk 8000-9000 steps a day on average, mostly due to my commute, but other than that I'm pretty much a lazy desk potato.

    But hey, the scale doesn't lie. So, like I said, YMMV.

    This is why I prefer websites like exrx.net and health-calc. You can input the time you spend walking, because although your exercise routine may fall in line with "lightly active" your daily life may not. Otherwise in drop-downs you need to consider not just exercise but also your NEAT burns.
  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
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    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    BFDeal wrote: »
    EDIT: This is what everyone is swearing right? I'm eating too much. I'm at maintenance. So I need to add 100 calories a week until I...find my maintenance? I don't get it.

    If you aren't losing (and aren't gaining), you are at maintenance. Period. No alternative explanation. Reverse dieting is a way to try and raise your maintenance. Another option is to discover if you have a medical problem that is causing your maintenance to be lower than it should be. To do that, it would be helpful to have good information for the doctor of what your maintenance seems to be, which would be another benefit of the reverse dieting protocol.

    If I were you, I'd log super strictly for a while to try and discover what my actual maintenance is. AND I'd also pay for a DEXA and RMR test and use those numbers to compare my numbers with the calculators. Assuming they were lower than they should be, I'd bring that information to the doctor and investigate and, at that point, either work on raising the maintenance or eat less than maintenance, depending on what the numbers are.

    From what you've said, either you have a medical issue, you are simply unlucky with your metabolism (including if you lowered it while dieting so easily), or you are not counting your calories correctly. You need to find out which it is to figure out how best to resolve it.

    The dude was eating at 2700, not losing. Now eating at 2100, not losing. So reverse dieting to get his intake as high as possible before he starts gaining again, and then taking a month long break, would be a good idea. Someone else recommended this for him based on the possibility of adaptive thermogenesis due to his long weight loss status. Others have recommended logging clean-ups (he argues against this) and blood tests. He so far hasn't done much with any of these recommendations.
  • segacs
    segacs Posts: 4,599 Member
    edited February 2015
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    ana3067 wrote: »
    This is why I prefer websites like exrx.net and health-calc. You can input the time you spend walking, because although your exercise routine may fall in line with "lightly active" your daily life may not. Otherwise in drop-downs you need to consider not just exercise but also your NEAT burns.

    My method was basically this:
    1. Pick a number that a calculator spit out at TDEE-20%
    2. Eat that for a while (4-6 weeks)
    3. Notice I was hungry and also losing weight faster than I expected.
    4. Up the calories by 100 or so. Eat that for a while (another 4-6 weeks).
    5. Notice I was losing weight at the expected pace and no longer feeling hungry.
    6. Keep doing that until it stops working. So far, so good.

    I use a spreadsheet to log my actual calories, daily weigh-ins and observed TDEE, and to plot them on a graph. But that's just 'cause I like numbers.
  • biodigit
    biodigit Posts: 145 Member
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    So the TDEE calculator at http://iifym.com/iifym-calculator/ which the regulars like to point people to may have been useful at one point, but the site is so spamified that it's basically worthless. It popped me over somewhere else, then wouldn't stop creating popups until I finally had to kill chrome to get the page closed. I really think people should stop recommending it.

    However, there was a TDEE calculator that someone linked awhile back that I've been searching the forums for without success. It had a slightly different way of calculating because you put in the number of hours per day at each level of effort. Anyway, does anyone mind linking me to that one?

    You appear to have a site redirect malware on your computer - it has nothing to do with IIFYM being full of spam. Run a virus cleaner on your computer.
  • subversive99
    subversive99 Posts: 273 Member
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    biodigit wrote: »
    So the TDEE calculator at http://iifym.com/iifym-calculator/ which the regulars like to point people to may have been useful at one point, but the site is so spamified that it's basically worthless. It popped me over somewhere else, then wouldn't stop creating popups until I finally had to kill chrome to get the page closed. I really think people should stop recommending it.

    However, there was a TDEE calculator that someone linked awhile back that I've been searching the forums for without success. It had a slightly different way of calculating because you put in the number of hours per day at each level of effort. Anyway, does anyone mind linking me to that one?

    You appear to have a site redirect malware on your computer - it has nothing to do with IIFYM being full of spam. Run a virus cleaner on your computer.

    I was wondering when I would get IT advice. I'm actually an IT guy, so I'm well aware of how to tell if something is a problem with my computer or with a website. Secondly, I'm getting the same behaviour both from corporate computers at multiple locations as well as my own home computer, all of which are protected by quality paid anti virus software.

  • subversive99
    subversive99 Posts: 273 Member
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    biodigit wrote: »

    You appear to have a site redirect malware on your computer - it has nothing to do with IIFYM being full of spam. Run a virus cleaner on your computer.

    I was wondering when I would get IT advice. I'm actually an IT guy, so I'm well aware of how to tell if something is a problem with my computer or with a website. Secondly, I'm getting the same behaviour both from corporate computers at multiple locations as well as my own home computer, all of which are protected by quality paid anti virus software.

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    Sorry, that came across really bitchy. But it's not malware on my computer. I get the exact same popup from 3 different computers on 3 different corporate networks.

  • biodigit
    biodigit Posts: 145 Member
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    I'm on there right now and don't see anything out of the ordinary. Are you using Chrome? If so, use Adblock. Maybe you're seeing all the ads and it's really getting in the way. Hope it helps.