Why is regaining weight so common????

erikarobles

Warning a little depressing but I will learn to live with the heat turned down!!!!

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/why-is-regaining-weight-so-common/

zyxst

"There is one method that works in animals and live humans, but it doesn’t actually kill fat cells. It converts them into a more useful type of fat:

Cold exposure. It turns out that cold exposure has the potential to transform white adipose tissue cells into metabolism-stimulating brown fat cells. In one recent study, researchers took belly fat samples from the same people during the summer and winter. Biomarkers of brown adipose tissue activity were higher in the winter belly fat. In another portion of the study, people held ice packs against their thighs. Thigh tissue samples revealed greater conversion of white fat into brown fat in the lean members of the group, while the obese had less brown fat conversion, probably due to higher baseline inflammation levels. A more recent study found that cold applied to human neck fat initiated the conversion of white fat cells into brown ones. If you can’t kill ‘em, convert ‘em.

One problem with this: it’s not a one-and-done deal. Cold-converted brown fat can revert back to white fat if the stimulus is withdrawn, though not immediately. Periodic cold exposure, even if it’s just taking early morning walks in short sleeves or cool showers or regular dips in cold water several times a week, might be required for people trying to maintain the browning."



Ooookay. I think I'll stick with not constantly stuffing my face with food.

williams969

LOL to the "cold exposure." It was -14F today where I live (that's -26C). Yeah, I'm not going out there in my skivvies. I'll just eat an appropriate amount and maintain moderate physical activity.

jennifer_417

The only thing I hate more than being hungry is being cold. So, yeah, no thanks!

Sparklething2325

Most woman don't strength train and cardio is not good for long term fat loss. That leads to muscle loss and as we age we loose muscle mass as well. This results in a slower metabolism. Also we burn less calories doing the same cardio we did at a heavier weight then when we weigh less. I'm gaining weight now but that's on purpose because i want more muscle mass.

TavistockToad

jennifer_417 wrote: »

The only thing I hate more than being hungry is being cold. So, yeah, no thanks!

that is very true!

47Jacqueline

If you've ever tried to convert someone, you know how defeating that can feel. It's not worth it. If people don't learn that it's about changing the way they live, they're just doomed to repeat themselves... or give up. Sad

yopeeps025

Brown fat LOL

aquamarina_182

yeeeah no..it's -30 degrees Celsius today where i live... burrrrrrr

dopeysmelly

Whatever. I'll vote for not stuffing my face and getting some exercise every day.

quiksylver296

All fat I've ever seen is yellow, and I've sat through a few autopsies. And those cadavers were very cold. Hmmm...

Alidecker

TavistockToad wrote: »

jennifer_417 wrote: »

The only thing I hate more than being hungry is being cold. So, yeah, no thanks!

that is very true!

Agreed, I got up this morning to go swimming, just leaving the house seemed like a workout with the cold temperatures! Even though it was indoor swimming, just the thought made me cringe.

melimomTARDIS

i think we regain weight because we stop doing the stuff we were doing to lose the weight. the medicine doesnt work if you stop taking it. That is why i still log, even in maintenance. even my embarrassing stuff that I am like, not wanting another soul to see. (hello, carton of ice cream, followed by a stack of butter cookies)

williams969

melimomTARDIS wrote: »

i think we regain weight because we stop doing the stuff we were doing to lose the weight. the medicine doesnt work if you stop taking it. That is why i still log, even in maintenance. even my embarrassing stuff that I am like, not wanting another soul to see. (hello, carton of ice cream, followed by a stack of butter cookies)

Bingo! That's my "prescription". I found activities that are good for me, on a schedule that is reasonable and sustainable for me. And I keep doing them, and will do so for the long haul (or a comparable activity, should I get bored or discover a new thing I love to do).

As far as food--yeah, I will continue with reasonable quantities with balanced choices and nutritional content (with the occasional "yummy" food group indulgence included for "funsies"--just like I did when losing).

Gianfranco_R

yopeeps025 wrote: »

Brown fat LOL

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_adipose_tissue

zyxst

melimomTARDIS wrote: »

i think we regain weight because we stop doing the stuff we were doing to lose the weight. the medicine doesnt work if you stop taking it. That is why i still log, even in maintenance. even my embarrassing stuff that I am like, not wanting another soul to see. (hello, carton of ice cream, followed by a stack of butter cookies)

ninerbuff

The body is VERY efficient at storing energy. Part of the reason obesity exists. Let's face it, it's still about over consuming more than one needs to lose weight.
Oh BTW, lots of people who aren't obese live near or on the equator.

A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

rjrobert

There working on a new treatment for cancer that tiny nanobots (I know, Science Fiction sounding) attach themselves to cancer sells and then a proton pulse cannon shoots the nanobots signature thus killing the cancer cell.

If this ends up working, not only would it be the miracle so many are looking for in Cancer research, I also wonder if they could reprogram them to attach to fat cells and blast them this bringing the number of fat cells in your body back down?

gothchiq

Brrrr!!! I'm arthritic and hypothyroid. I'll stick with food logging and workouts. Being cold is just not okay with me! Also, my husband and my cats would be upset and uncomfy.

stealthq

rjrobert wrote: »

There working on a new treatment for cancer that tiny nanobots (I know, Science Fiction sounding) attach themselves to cancer sells and then a proton pulse cannon shoots the nanobots signature thus killing the cancer cell.

If this ends up working, not only would it be the miracle so many are looking for in Cancer research, I also wonder if they could reprogram them to attach to fat cells and blast them this bringing the number of fat cells in your body back down?

'Cause there's no way THAT could go horribly wrong. Can you imagine if there was an error with targeting location or shutting the things down?

I think we've shifted genres from Sci-fi to horror.

LittlePinkShotgun

A huge number of us simply eat too much. We eat too much!!! We drink too much!!! We consume too many calories!!! More than we can burn off in a day. I think a big part of the problem stems from the fact that food and beverage corporations stand to profit from our consumption (mcdonalds, coke, subway, bacardi, coors, applebeys, pepsi, lays, pringles, m&ms, snickers, gatorade, powerbar, kellogs, nabisco) . These companies spend loads of R&D money to figure out how to get people to consume more. We are manipulated by advertisements, billboards, signage, pop vending machines, strategic store layout, product placement in movies. ALL. DAY. LONG. Do an experiment with yourself; pay attention to this for few days and try to make a mental note of each prompt you come across for calorie dense (junk) food and beverage (alcohol included) products. We have been exposed to these ads since we were kids. We have grown up with it. We are used to it. My opinion is that it's completely *kitten* up.

Sabine_Stroehm

People regain the weight because they didn't make real habit changes. Sustainable changes.

tlblood

jennifer_417 wrote: »

The only thing I hate more than being hungry is being cold. So, yeah, no thanks!

Me too!

Aviva92

I don't know if any of this is true, but if it is, my 5 mile walks in the single digit temperatures to and from work is more fantastic for staying thin than I thought.

If fat cells are truly mostly formed as a kid, then it would explain why it was really easy for me to keep the weight off. I was a skinny kid. I did not become hungry to eat more and regain it after losing. My appetite completely adjusted to eating less. I was never obese though, just bordering on overweight at my highest.

Unknown

This content has been removed.

jnv7594

zyxst wrote: »

"There is one method that works in animals and live humans, but it doesn’t actually kill fat cells. It converts them into a more useful type of fat:

Cold exposure. It turns out that cold exposure has the potential to transform white adipose tissue cells into metabolism-stimulating brown fat cells. In one recent study, researchers took belly fat samples from the same people during the summer and winter. Biomarkers of brown adipose tissue activity were higher in the winter belly fat. In another portion of the study, people held ice packs against their thighs. Thigh tissue samples revealed greater conversion of white fat into brown fat in the lean members of the group, while the obese had less brown fat conversion, probably due to higher baseline inflammation levels. A more recent study found that cold applied to human neck fat initiated the conversion of white fat cells into brown ones. If you can’t kill ‘em, convert ‘em.

One problem with this: it’s not a one-and-done deal. Cold-converted brown fat can revert back to white fat if the stimulus is withdrawn, though not immediately. Periodic cold exposure, even if it’s just taking early morning walks in short sleeves or cool showers or regular dips in cold water several times a week, might be required for people trying to maintain the browning."



Ooookay. I think I'll stick with not constantly stuffing my face with food.

Off topic, but oh, how I miss Three's Company and John Ritter.

Lourdesong

Being cold makes me want to eat to get warm.

MKEgal

Sparklething2325 wrote:

Most woman (sic) don't strength train and cardio is not good for long term fat loss.

False and false.
There are plenty of women who lift, either as part of their exercise or even competitively.
Cardio burns calories more efficiently than weightlifting. It's been working wonders for me.
Yes, I also lift, and have at least maintained my lean body mass while losing 80-ish lb of fat. One calculator says I've gained muscle.
But lifting is definitely important!
.

and as we age we loose (sic) muscle mass as well. This results in a slower metabolism.

_Aging_ slows the metabolism:
A 150 lb 5'10" female who's 45 years old has a BMR of 1406.
At age 25, it's 1506.

Since muscle uses 6 cal/day/lb losing muscle would result in a slightly slower metabolism, but it's not a huge change. How likely is it that someone would lose 17 lb of muscle as a young to middle-aged adult in her most active years? (Resulting in that 100-cal drop.)
.

we burn less (sic) calories doing the same cardio we did at a heavier weight then (sic) when we weigh less.

Sadly true. When I first started, 75-ish lb ago, it wasn't hard to score an 800 calorie workout. Now it takes an hour on the elliptical + some weightlifting + some hill-climbing on the treadmill (but that day I broke 1000!).

bmanlatour

Maintaining a calorie restricted diet for a long time does 2 things that contribute to regaining lost weight.

1. You lose muscle mass. You aren't eating enough protein so you have a negative nitrogen balance. You body breaks down muscle for use in making other proteins. Less muscle lowers your resting metabolic rate.

2. You body becomes more efficient at living off of less calories. While calorie calculators say you are going to lose 2 lbs per week, you have acclimated to a lower calorie intake in addition to losing muscle mass.

You reach your goal. Then you try to return to a maintenance level of calories. You are well adjusted to a low caloric intake at 2000 calories. Now you start eating 2500 calories like a normal person of your weight and size. Your body treats the 500 calories like a surplus. 500 calories for 7 days equals 3500. 3500 calories is the estimated energy in 1 lb of adipose tissue! Your muscles are tiny so they can't hold much glycogen and haven't been stimulated by exercise so they don't need anything protein synthesis. Guess where it goes: adipose tissue.

Aviva92

bmanlatour wrote: »

Maintaining a calorie restricted diet for a long time does 2 things that contribute to regaining lost weight.

1. You lose muscle mass. You aren't eating enough protein so you have a negative nitrogen balance. You body breaks down muscle for use in making other proteins. Less muscle lowers your resting metabolic rate.

2. You body becomes more efficient at living off of less calories. While calorie calculators say you are going to lose 2 lbs per week, you have acclimated to a lower calorie intake in addition to losing muscle mass.

You reach your goal. Then you try to return to a maintenance level of calories. You are well adjusted to a low caloric intake at 2000 calories. Now you start eating 2500 calories like a normal person of your weight and size. Your body treats the 500 calories like a surplus. 500 calories for 7 days equals 3500. 3500 calories is the estimated energy in 1 lb of adipose tissue! Your muscles are tiny so they can't hold much glycogen and haven't been stimulated by exercise so they don't need anything protein synthesis. Guess where it goes: adipose tissue.

maybe, but if your maintenance decreases, your appetite should also decrease. the reason in that link seemed to be a better reason to me.

Unknown

This content has been removed.