2 months, nothing
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Well then you should probably open your diary so we can look earlier than those 4 or 5 days since this has been going on for 2 months.Start logging. Log everything, with food scale. If your clothes are tighter and you're gaining weight, and it's not just normal fluctuations, then you're not in a deficit. But we can't really tell you what to do until you've got an accurate food diary to pull from.
I just recently over the last 4 or 5 days stopped recording, I keep track in my mind for the day what I eat.0 -
Just joining and was reading the posts. Was just wondering what the protein was for if you were trying to loose. I only ask because my son and his friends had mentioned taking it for gaining. Im not a pro but could it possibly be the protein?
This is called thread jacking.
Protein is the building block of muscle and other tissues in your body. You need to consume protein in adequate amounta in order to retain and rebuild muscle mass.0 -
i sense a troll in the thread....0
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Just joining and was reading the posts. Was just wondering what the protein was for if you were trying to loose. I only ask because my son and his friends had mentioned taking it for gaining. Im not a pro but could it possibly be the protein?
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I agree that 1200 cals at 220lbs isn't enough. I'm at 170lbs now (from 237) and I eat just under 2000 a day and exercise roughly 7-8 hours a week.
I would also suggest seeing a doctor. To see absolutely NO results in 2 months is beyond odd.. Maybe you have a problem with your thyroid... Hyperthyroidism can cause insomnia and in roughly 10% of cases can be the cause of weight gain rather than the expected weight loss.
Try upping your cals slowly (about 100 cals a week) until you're eating at least your BMR. Keep up the exercise. See your doctor.0 -
You likely are not eating enough. That paired with the lack of sleep is creating too much stress on your body. It causes your body to create cortisol, and cortisol prevents weight loss.
According to this:
http://scoobysworkshop.com/accurate-calorie-calculator/
Your BMR is: 1705
TDEE (maintenance) is: 2642
Goal to lose: 2114 (I put in 3-5 hours a week of exercise).
If you put in 1-3 hours exercise instead, you get 1875 calories.
ahh, that calculation is most likely off because its greatly overestimating her lean body mass, because her BMI is 35+.
if you added in the body fat % it would be more accurate. im 6 foot, my bmr is 1700ish. try again.0 -
Just joining and was reading the posts. Was just wondering what the protein was for if you were trying to loose. I only ask because my son and his friends had mentioned taking it for gaining. Im not a pro but could it possibly be the protein?
I read a lot about protein and if what I read is right it's suppose to help. But either way, i've had weeks where I had low protein, and weeks with high protein so it didn't seem to make a difference.0 -
what you need is a doctor and a dietician.
people here are just guessing and this sounds too complex.
personally I think its either a health problem or your portions are bigger than you think or theres more calories in what you are eating than you think. basically you are eating above maintenance.
but were all just guessing here, you really need to see some medical professionals as this sounds like its been going on for a long time.
also you cant say its not your intake until you have weighed everything, made sure your portion sizes are correct, that you are not adding a load of butter/oil/lard/mayonaise to everything.
also obese people telling you you need to eat more is like junkies telling you smack is good. its not... well.. not aftewards.
so say it ten times with me:
you need a
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
I'm not obese, but good try.
With a TDEE of 2600, that's a whole crapload of mayo and oil and butter to make up the difference between her deficit and TDEE.
A doctor and dietician is good advice though.0 -
I agree with Nikiliss. I was in the same boat as you until 11/04/2013 when I found out I was Gluten, lactose and Casein intolerant. I changed my diet and lost 7 kilos (with exercise of course). See a Doctor or Dietician. Get tested and then go from there0
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also obese people telling you you need to eat more is like junkies telling you smack is good. its not... well.. not aftewards.
Not obese. -waves-0 -
what you need is a doctor and a dietician.
people here are just guessing and this sounds too complex.
personally I think its either a health problem or your portions are bigger than you think or theres more calories in what you are eating than you think. basically you are eating above maintenance.
but were all just guessing here, you really need to see some medical professionals as this sounds like its been going on for a long time.
But also I've mentioned a few times here that I do weigh everything I eat. I don't eat mayo,
also you cant say its not your intake until you have weighed everything, made sure your portion sizes are correct, that you are not adding a load of butter/oil/lard/mayonaise to everything.
also obese people telling you you need to eat more is like junkies telling you smack is good. its not... well.. not aftewards.
so say it ten times with me:
you need a
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
I do plan on seeing my doctor, but just saying, I don't eat mayo butter or any of that stuff...and I do weigh what I eat.0 -
also obese people telling you you need to eat more is like junkies telling you smack is good. its not... well.. not aftewards.
Not obese. -waves-
I am. But being fat doesn't affect my intelligence.0 -
what you need is a doctor and a dietician.
people here are just guessing and this sounds too complex.
personally I think its either a health problem or your portions are bigger than you think or theres more calories in what you are eating than you think. basically you are eating above maintenance.
but were all just guessing here, you really need to see some medical professionals as this sounds like its been going on for a long time.
also you cant say its not your intake until you have weighed everything, made sure your portion sizes are correct, that you are not adding a load of butter/oil/lard/mayonaise to everything.
also obese people telling you you need to eat more is like junkies telling you smack is good. its not... well.. not aftewards.
so say it ten times with me:
you need a
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
I'm not obese, but good try.
With a TDEE of 2600, that's a whole crapload of mayo and oil and butter to make up the difference between her deficit and TDEE.
A doctor and dietician is good advice though.
why did you assume I was talking to you. I was talking about her dad who is heavy saying she isn't eating enough.
your calculation is wrong. I don't have a particularly clear answer either, but the calculator isn't for people with obese BMI's (not trying to be an *kitten*, its just what the BMI scale says.)
I wasn't insulting you or anyone in the eat more camp. honest. so you can relax
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I agree that 1200 cals at 220lbs isn't enough. I'm at 170lbs now (from 237) and I eat just under 2000 a day and exercise roughly 7-8 hours a week.
I would also suggest seeing a doctor. To see absolutely NO results in 2 months is beyond odd.. Maybe you have a problem with your thyroid... Hyperthyroidism can cause insomnia and in roughly 10% of cases can be the cause of weight gain rather than the expected weight loss.
Try upping your cals slowly (about 100 cals a week) until you're eating at least your BMR. Keep up the exercise. See your doctor.
I've tried to eat around 2000 or not much above that, and I always end up feeling bloated or like it's way too much food honestly.0 -
I agree with everyone else that said you need to see a doctor.
When you can't lose weight at all despite tracking calorie intake, eating right, and exercising, there is likely a hormonal or endocrine issue that needs to be addressed.
Have your doctor check your thyroid function, and also check for insulin resistance.0 -
also obese people telling you you need to eat more is like junkies telling you smack is good. its not... well.. not aftewards.
Not obese. -waves-
I am. But being fat doesn't affect my intelligence.
Brain fat slows my thinkin' muscles.0 -
also obese people telling you you need to eat more is like junkies telling you smack is good. its not... well.. not aftewards.
Not obese. -waves-
I am. But being fat doesn't affect my intelligence.
wasn't talking about you man, was talking about her dad. he clearly isn't a good gauge of portion size, healthy habits or calorie control.
so you can relax too.0 -
also obese people telling you you need to eat more is like junkies telling you smack is good. its not... well.. not aftewards.
Not obese. -waves-
I am. But being fat doesn't affect my intelligence.
I agree, being heavyset is not a barrel full of pickles. I've done a lot of research and tried a lot of different things. The suggestions are great, and I appreciate the responses.0 -
Without knowing your height, weight, and seeing what your diet looks like, the only thing that I can tell you is that a lack of sleep will ultimately lead to a release of cortisol. Cortisol will increase your body's ability to burn calories, and I do believe it might also be responsible for some water retention. You definitely need to address your insomnia.
Now the question is this, do you have true insomnia (meaning you do not fall asleep at all) or does it just take you a long time to fall asleep? Most people confuse delayed sleep-onset disorder (it takes more than 45 minutes to fall asleep) with insomnia. They are not the same. If your problem is more likely to be delayed sleep-onset than insomnia, taking melatonin at the same time every day will help you to correct the problem. If you truly have insomnia, you have to figure out what is causing it and address that. In other words, if you have anxiety that prevents you from falling asleep, it may be wise to address your anxiety issues with a psychiatrist.
Best of luck. It is my sincere wish that you found this post helpful.0 -
I agree that 1200 cals at 220lbs isn't enough. I'm at 170lbs now (from 237) and I eat just under 2000 a day and exercise roughly 7-8 hours a week.
I would also suggest seeing a doctor. To see absolutely NO results in 2 months is beyond odd.. Maybe you have a problem with your thyroid... Hyperthyroidism can cause insomnia and in roughly 10% of cases can be the cause of weight gain rather than the expected weight loss.
Try upping your cals slowly (about 100 cals a week) until you're eating at least your BMR. Keep up the exercise. See your doctor.
I've tried to eat around 2000 or not much above that, and I always end up feeling bloated or like it's way too much food honestly.
Try eating more calorie dense food. Also, your stomach tends to shrink when undereating, so increase your calories slowly, if you choose to do so.0 -
what you need is a doctor and a dietician.
people here are just guessing and this sounds too complex.
personally I think its either a health problem or your portions are bigger than you think or theres more calories in what you are eating than you think. basically you are eating above maintenance.
but were all just guessing here, you really need to see some medical professionals as this sounds like its been going on for a long time.
also you cant say its not your intake until you have weighed everything, made sure your portion sizes are correct, that you are not adding a load of butter/oil/lard/mayonaise to everything.
also obese people telling you you need to eat more is like junkies telling you smack is good. its not... well.. not aftewards.
so say it ten times with me:
you need a
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
doctor and a dietician
I'm not obese, but good try.
With a TDEE of 2600, that's a whole crapload of mayo and oil and butter to make up the difference between her deficit and TDEE.
A doctor and dietician is good advice though.
why did you assume I was talking to you. I was talking about her dad who is heavy saying she isn't eating enough.
your calculation is wrong. I don't have a particularly clear answer either, but the calculator isn't for people with obese BMI's (not trying to be an *kitten*, its just what the BMI scale says.)
I wasn't insulting you or anyone in the eat more camp. honest. so you can relax
Worked fine for me when my BMI was 35--->25. Each to their own. I agree that the doctor is the way forward, at least for now.0 -
I agree that 1200 cals at 220lbs isn't enough. I'm at 170lbs now (from 237) and I eat just under 2000 a day and exercise roughly 7-8 hours a week.
I would also suggest seeing a doctor. To see absolutely NO results in 2 months is beyond odd.. Maybe you have a problem with your thyroid... Hyperthyroidism can cause insomnia and in roughly 10% of cases can be the cause of weight gain rather than the expected weight loss.
Try upping your cals slowly (about 100 cals a week) until you're eating at least your BMR. Keep up the exercise. See your doctor.
I've tried to eat around 2000 or not much above that, and I always end up feeling bloated or like it's way too much food honestly.
Try eating more calorie dense food. Also, your stomach tends to shrink when undereating, so increase your calories slowly, if you choose to do so.
I just really don't like the idea of eating 2000+ calories, that makes me feel really uncomfortable.0 -
:flowerforyou:also obese people telling you you need to eat more is like junkies telling you smack is good. its not... well.. not aftewards.
Not obese. -waves-
I am. But being fat doesn't affect my intelligence.
if I said that I eat like 2500+ calories a day and am still losing weight it's not good to recommend it to others?! What a great logic. I also eat "junk" food every day. Should I not recommend that to others as well? I think I'm doing something right now after doing it wrong to get to my previous weight
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You likely are not eating enough. That paired with the lack of sleep is creating too much stress on your body. It causes your body to create cortisol, and cortisol prevents weight loss.
According to this:
http://scoobysworkshop.com/accurate-calorie-calculator/
Your BMR is: 1705
TDEE (maintenance) is: 2642
Goal to lose: 2114 (I put in 3-5 hours a week of exercise).
If you put in 1-3 hours exercise instead, you get 1875 calories.
this + sleep, Sleep is soooo important.0 -
Yeah, it must get frustrating for sure.
My ticker is not what I chose... do any of you have any helpful feedback?
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Somethings wrong. I could see gaining weight by adding muscle but the science is off here. More exercise and less calories equals less weight. See your doctor.0
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I decided to close it because some days I forgot to write down or record what I eat.
Consistent and accurate logging is very important. I suggest you start there. Make it happen daily. Record everything. And use the notes section To record how you feel, energy, headaches, motivation....0 -
I agree that 1200 cals at 220lbs isn't enough. I'm at 170lbs now (from 237) and I eat just under 2000 a day and exercise roughly 7-8 hours a week.
I would also suggest seeing a doctor. To see absolutely NO results in 2 months is beyond odd.. Maybe you have a problem with your thyroid... Hyperthyroidism can cause insomnia and in roughly 10% of cases can be the cause of weight gain rather than the expected weight loss.
Try upping your cals slowly (about 100 cals a week) until you're eating at least your BMR. Keep up the exercise. See your doctor.
I've tried to eat around 2000 or not much above that, and I always end up feeling bloated or like it's way too much food honestly.
Try eating more calorie dense food. Also, your stomach tends to shrink when undereating, so increase your calories slowly, if you choose to do so.
I just really don't like the idea of eating 2000+ calories, that makes me feel really uncomfortable.
This is because you still have an emotional issue with food. You have been conditioned by misinformation that eating as little as possible is best for weight loss. This is not exactly the case. Eating so little over an extended period of time will cause your hormonal balances to shift causing your body to consume more muscle mass than fat mass, which slows down your overall metabolism. Eating at a more reasonable deficit helps to prevent the worst effects of this while also maintaining critical body functions. And it helps to prevent binging.
Remember, food is fuel. Not love, not evil, just fuel.0 -
I agree that 1200 cals at 220lbs isn't enough. I'm at 170lbs now (from 237) and I eat just under 2000 a day and exercise roughly 7-8 hours a week.
I would also suggest seeing a doctor. To see absolutely NO results in 2 months is beyond odd.. Maybe you have a problem with your thyroid... Hyperthyroidism can cause insomnia and in roughly 10% of cases can be the cause of weight gain rather than the expected weight loss.
Try upping your cals slowly (about 100 cals a week) until you're eating at least your BMR. Keep up the exercise. See your doctor.
I've tried to eat around 2000 or not much above that, and I always end up feeling bloated or like it's way too much food honestly.
Try eating more calorie dense food. Also, your stomach tends to shrink when undereating, so increase your calories slowly, if you choose to do so.
I just really don't like the idea of eating 2000+ calories, that makes me feel really uncomfortable.
This is because you still have an emotional issue with food. You have been conditioned by misinformation that eating as little as possible is best for weight loss. This is not exactly the case. Eating so little over an extended period of time will cause your hormonal balances to shift causing your body to consume more muscle mass than fat mass, which slows down your overall metabolism. Eating at a more reasonable deficit helps to prevent the worst effects of this while also maintaining critical body functions. And it helps to prevent binging.
Remember, food is fuel. Not love, not evil, just fuel.
Who says I have an emotional issues with food, and who misinformed me that eating little was best for weight loss?
I don't have emotional issues with food, and I know that eating just a tiny amount will kill muscle. I'm not totally a barnacle head with this information...lol.0 -
I just want to say how happy I am that she has received the same thing over and over.
Set your goals here to "Lose one pound per week". Be honest and realistic in your Activity Level. Don't choose Sedentary if you have any kind of job, go to school, or care for children at home. You are not Sedentary.
Weigh everything and then put it in your Food Diary.
Enter your daily Exercise and eat back those extra calories. That is the way this site is designed to be used.
Get sufficient sleep (7-8 hours a day) and drink lots of water.
Do this for one month.
If you have not gotten the right results, either see your doctor or adjust your intake. It's about the food.0
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