New Runner pain...

dougpconnell219
dougpconnell219 Posts: 566 Member
edited November 2024 in Fitness and Exercise
So I have started running.

So far, I have done week one of c25k, and day one of week two. Basically just running for minute and a half intervals at 5.0.

All of this has been on a treadmill.

My hip continually hurts (that is bursitis) but is getting some better.

Now my knees are hurting. Just below the kneecaps on the inside, there is an inflamed tendon. It is sore when I touch it.

Is this normal? Do I just need to keep taking it slow until my body adjusts? Or should I give up on running?

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  • lishie_rebooted
    lishie_rebooted Posts: 2,973 Member
    Did you get fit for shoes or pick something off the clearance rack?
    how old are they?
  • enterdanger
    enterdanger Posts: 2,447 Member
    Don't ignore it. Pain while running does happen, but you can seriously mess your legs and feet up. If it is a tight calf muscle, that can actually be related to your Achilles tendon. Running on it could cause a tear. In my opinion (I'm not a doctor) the best thing you can do is to stretch, and not just before or after a run but several times a day.

    I like to sit on the floor with a leg out in front of me and pull my toes back towards my body and hold them like that for 30 seconds. Then you point toes out and lean as close to you body touching toes. I wouldn't run until you can do this and it doesn't hurt.

    The pain could be because you are a new runner, but it could also be caused by different things.

    -any past injury to the Achilles
    - too much slope or hills for a new runner
    _ running form (are you pronating/rolling your feet when running?)
    -Shoes. I found out the hard way that with running shoes you do get what you pay for. If you haven't, go to a running store where they can evaluate your form and recommend a shoe. I was totally in the wrong shoe. Now I have a pair of Brooks and I love them.

    I've been running for 8 months now and I still get extreme tightness in my hamstrings and Achilles. I just started yoga hoping to get a little more flexible. Don't overlook the power genetics plays. I've never been flexible.

  • dougpconnell219
    dougpconnell219 Posts: 566 Member
    lishie_rebooted wrote: »
    Did you get fit for shoes or pick something off the clearance rack?
    how old are they?

    I got fit. Saucony stability shoes with maybe 50 miles on them. Most of those treadmill.
  • ephiemarie
    ephiemarie Posts: 264 Member
    Is it possible for you to do any running outdoors? Treadmills can be hard on even the most seasoned runners. If your knees are literally sore to the touch, perhaps consider taking a couple extra days off before starting on your next C25K workout. I've only been running for a year, but in my limited experience running "through the pain," so to speak, is a generally poor idea. My guess is your hip pain, combined with the treadmill use, is causing an unnatural gait and placing strain on your knees.
  • dougpconnell219
    dougpconnell219 Posts: 566 Member
    ephiemarie wrote: »
    Is it possible for you to do any running outdoors? Treadmills can be hard on even the most seasoned runners. If your knees are literally sore to the touch, perhaps consider taking a couple extra days off before starting on your next C25K workout. I've only been running for a year, but in my limited experience running "through the pain," so to speak, is a generally poor idea. My guess is your hip pain, combined with the treadmill use, is causing an unnatural gait and placing strain on your knees.

    It's been really cold and icy here lately, so outdoors hasn't been an option.

    I work standing on a concrete floor all day, and am at least fifty pounds overweight. I'm sure all of it together isn't good on the knees.

    In training for a sprint triathlon. Maybe I'll stick to the bike and pool for a few days and see how it goes next time.
  • Train4Foodz
    Train4Foodz Posts: 4,298 Member
    ephiemarie wrote: »
    Is it possible for you to do any running outdoors? Treadmills can be hard on even the most seasoned runners. If your knees are literally sore to the touch, perhaps consider taking a couple extra days off before starting on your next C25K workout. I've only been running for a year, but in my limited experience running "through the pain," so to speak, is a generally poor idea. My guess is your hip pain, combined with the treadmill use, is causing an unnatural gait and placing strain on your knees.

    This sums up my thinking on this pretty much exactly.

    I would first and foremost advise you to go and see a doctor though, take away any chance of it being something 'medical' that should only be adressed by a doctor and then you can start to adjust the exercise you do to fit with how you're adjusting to it.

    I can't stress enough though that I would never advise anybody to 'run through the pain', you can cause youself some serious damage if it is something that needs adressing by a doctor. See a GP first :)

    As far as running is concerned, outdoor running really may be a better option for you. Especially whilst easing into running! Everybody is different though and what works for one may not for another. I personally love running outdoors, it beats staring at a crowded (or empty even) gym.. many many times over!

    All the best with everything,
    Adam
  • galgenstrick
    galgenstrick Posts: 2,086 Member
    edited February 2015
    I wouldn't recommend any running or impact exercises for anyone over 15% body fat. It's too hard on the joints. With that said, I don't know what your BF%, but if you're feeling any pain, I would take it easy for a little while.
  • MeanderingMammal
    MeanderingMammal Posts: 7,866 Member
    dougpconnell219 wrote: »
    My hip continually hurts (that is bursitis) but is getting some better.

    Now my knees are hurting. Just below the kneecaps on the inside, there is an inflamed tendon. It is sore when I touch it.

    My gut feel would be that the two are related. If you have core/ glute weakness then that has the potential to lead to Illiotibial band issues, which may manifest below the knee. It may not be that, but it's the most obvious.

    Key point is, you're trying to run on an existing injury, that's going to give you issues.

    Let the injury heal, then come back to it.

    I'd also support the real world running suggestions above. By setting an arbitrary pace target on the dreadmill you may be going faster than is wise for you.
  • MeanderingMammal
    MeanderingMammal Posts: 7,866 Member
    galgenstrick wrote: »
    I wouldn't recommend any running or impact exercises for anyone over 15% body fat. It's too hard on the joints.

    WTF... what do you base that nonsense on.
  • lishie_rebooted
    lishie_rebooted Posts: 2,973 Member
    galgenstrick wrote: »
    I wouldn't recommend any running or impact exercises for anyone over 15% body fat. It's too hard on the joints. With that said, I don't know what your BF%, but if you're feeling any pain, I would take it easy for a little while.

    That means almost no females would run and only some males.

    This is garbage advice
  • kristinegift
    kristinegift Posts: 2,406 Member
    galgenstrick wrote: »
    I wouldn't recommend any running or impact exercises for anyone over 15% body fat. It's too hard on the joints. With that said, I don't know what your BF%, but if you're feeling any pain, I would take it easy for a little while.

    That's junk advice. As a female, I'm definitely ~25-30% BF, and I run marathons just fine.


    OP: I'd recommend taking a few days off running. See if the bike is fine, or just stick to the pool. Ice that knee! See a doctor about it. Knees are not to be troubled with. I had on-again off-again knee problems for years, and many times I tried to stubbornly run through it, and that was NOT a good idea! Also I agree with the poster that the hip problem may be related to the knee pain. My knees get bothersome when my hips/glutes aren't working properly. So while the hip is still recovering, I'd encourage you to focus on biking and swimming.
  • enterdanger
    enterdanger Posts: 2,447 Member
    galgenstrick wrote: »
    I wouldn't recommend any running or impact exercises for anyone over 15% body fat. It's too hard on the joints. With that said, I don't know what your BF%, but if you're feeling any pain, I would take it easy for a little while.

    Um I'm still obese and I ran 6 miles today and feel great. Don't be a turd.

  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    Some good advice here. I like the strength/weak glutes or quads suggestion. Maybe add some strength exercises and ease back on the running. I have trouble with my IT band, and some knee pain I have yet to figure out. My doc wasn't any help.

    I also agree the treadmill isn't ideal. Good luck.
  • lishie_rebooted
    lishie_rebooted Posts: 2,973 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    Some good advice here. I like the strength/weak glutes or quads suggestion. Maybe add some strength exercises and ease back on the running. I have trouble with my IT band, and some knee pain I have yet to figure out. My doc wasn't any help.

    I also agree the treadmill isn't ideal. Good luck.

    If it was a GP they generally dont.
    See an ortho.
    I had similiar issues and it was PFS
  • glevinso
    glevinso Posts: 1,895 Member
    galgenstrick wrote: »
    I wouldn't recommend any running or impact exercises for anyone over 15% body fat. It's too hard on the joints. With that said, I don't know what your BF%, but if you're feeling any pain, I would take it easy for a little while.

    I have seen some stupid posts in my time but this is up there...
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    lishie_rebooted wrote: »
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    Some good advice here. I like the strength/weak glutes or quads suggestion. Maybe add some strength exercises and ease back on the running. I have trouble with my IT band, and some knee pain I have yet to figure out. My doc wasn't any help.

    I also agree the treadmill isn't ideal. Good luck.

    If it was a GP they generally dont.
    See an ortho.
    I had similiar issues and it was PFS

    Nice, thanks! I'll google it.
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