protein shakes and/or BCAA's

esjones12

Karen_libert wrote: »

Thank you. They do have them at my gym. I'll suck it up and give it another go

My PT and I have a deal. I pay her $ and pour my heart/sweat out into the workout. And she spends 3 minutes foam rolling each of my legs at the end. It's like a mini massage. And helps so, so much with post workout soreness. I have started foam rolling after every workout.

WeaponXI

JoRocka wrote: »

WeaponXI wrote: »

You can still get DOMS after being on the same regimen (if its based on a progression) for many years. It is how your particular body deals with the training, some are lucky to not experience it, or if so very little, others are not so fortunate.

Getting that "so painful I can't walk DOMS" isn't going to happen with a progression program unless your 1RMPing ever other week.

Achy- tired and stiff are not the same as being sore.

I'm in great shape- but I bet you I'd go get on my horse- I'd be sore for a week since I don't ride any more- it has more to do with using muscles you haven't used in a way you haven't used them in a while/never. Odds of someone being in that much pain after 2 years of work on the same program is just so small.

Not all of us recover the same, just like not all of us react to the same training the same way. From my own personal experience, the day after heavy deadlifts or heavy squats, stairs are not my friend, I still handle the DOMS, but I still get them. I've been consistently lifting for over 5 years now and I haven't developed an immunity to DOMS, though sometimes I wish I could.

kindrabbit

WeaponXI wrote: »

JoRocka wrote: »

WeaponXI wrote: »

You can still get DOMS after being on the same regimen (if its based on a progression) for many years. It is how your particular body deals with the training, some are lucky to not experience it, or if so very little, others are not so fortunate.

Getting that "so painful I can't walk DOMS" isn't going to happen with a progression program unless your 1RMPing ever other week.

Achy- tired and stiff are not the same as being sore.

I'm in great shape- but I bet you I'd go get on my horse- I'd be sore for a week since I don't ride any more- it has more to do with using muscles you haven't used in a way you haven't used them in a while/never. Odds of someone being in that much pain after 2 years of work on the same program is just so small.

Not all of us recover the same, just like not all of us react to the same training the same way. From my own personal experience, the day after heavy deadlifts or heavy squats, stairs are not my friend, I still handle the DOMS, but I still get them. I've been consistently lifting for over 5 years now and I haven't developed an immunity to DOMS, though sometimes I wish I could.

Thanks Weapon XI. I'm a keen deadlifter and squatter too! My trainer is also a DOMS suffered (ex army PT and strong as hell!) so I have been taught that this is 'normal' for me. He has been trying to get me to use a protein shake for a long time but I have always resisted. I don't want to look like I'm taking myself too seriously. (I had the same attitude to wearing lifting gloves until my blisters started bleeding!)

Stairs and toilet seats are my least favorite place! Lets hope I can reclaim my love for walking up stairs and sitting down without hanging onto the wall by drinking the shakes I've ordered!

They've just arrived and seem to taste Ok so I'll give it a month.

To be honest I'm surprised by a lot of peoples dislike for them. I would say 7 out of 10 men walk out of the gym with a shaker in their hand. Maybe its a regional thing?

Pelamblue

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Karen_libert wrote: »

Pelamblue wrote: »

The pain you are feeling is 'DOMS'.. Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness. This is what happens after a hard gym session and I don't know anyone who dosen't get it. If you don't then work harder !!. I take both protein and BCAA's and still have it but not to the degree I did before I supplemented. Whey protein is loaded with BCAA's so unless you are tryinfg to gain size and keep it there, then Whey powder is all you need.
BCAA's basically stop the body going into a 'catabolic state' ie using muscle for fuel instead of fat. I take them for the simple fact I do a lot of weight lifting.
Happy lifting

Thanks. I've found a product with what looks like a good source of whey protein with added BCAA's. (PhD Pharma Whey HT+)

I think the main problem is that I don't get enough protein within that 20 min post workout window. I avoided shakes because I don't want to look like I'm taking myself too seriously. The alternative is to walk like I've had an 'accident' for 2 days post leg day! I think i'll go for the shake!

If it's any consolation I did a legs session on Saturday morning and am still walking like I've soiled myself, I call it the 'grafters pain '. Totally normal

WeaponXI

@Karen_libert, I do take whey protein and creatine after working out, does it help my DOMS? It may, but just marginally, (it does help my strength and endurance, which is what I'm after) it's not until I started drinking more water, stretching, and foam rolling that I noticed a difference. The other thing I noticed, the next day (when I feel the DOMS), keep moving around a lot. I space out lifting days with conditioning days, and the day after lifting, even if its something low impact, like cycling, that helps me recover quicker, plus I have one complete rest day in the week.

JoRocka

I don't want to look like I'm taking myself too seriously.

what does that even mean?

Sam_I_Am77

Karen_libert wrote: »

WeaponXI wrote: »

JoRocka wrote: »

WeaponXI wrote: »

You can still get DOMS after being on the same regimen (if its based on a progression) for many years. It is how your particular body deals with the training, some are lucky to not experience it, or if so very little, others are not so fortunate.

Getting that "so painful I can't walk DOMS" isn't going to happen with a progression program unless your 1RMPing ever other week.

Achy- tired and stiff are not the same as being sore.

I'm in great shape- but I bet you I'd go get on my horse- I'd be sore for a week since I don't ride any more- it has more to do with using muscles you haven't used in a way you haven't used them in a while/never. Odds of someone being in that much pain after 2 years of work on the same program is just so small.

Not all of us recover the same, just like not all of us react to the same training the same way. From my own personal experience, the day after heavy deadlifts or heavy squats, stairs are not my friend, I still handle the DOMS, but I still get them. I've been consistently lifting for over 5 years now and I haven't developed an immunity to DOMS, though sometimes I wish I could.

Thanks Weapon XI. I'm a keen deadlifter and squatter too! My trainer is also a DOMS suffered (ex army PT and strong as hell!) so I have been taught that this is 'normal' for me. He has been trying to get me to use a protein shake for a long time but I have always resisted. I don't want to look like I'm taking myself too seriously. (I had the same attitude to wearing lifting gloves until my blisters started bleeding!)

Stairs and toilet seats are my least favorite place! Lets hope I can reclaim my love for walking up stairs and sitting down without hanging onto the wall by drinking the shakes I've ordered!

They've just arrived and seem to taste Ok so I'll give it a month.

To be honest I'm surprised by a lot of peoples dislike for them. I would say 7 out of 10 men walk out of the gym with a shaker in their hand. Maybe its a regional thing?

If you're experiencing DOMS to such an extreme degree, I would say your total calories and / or your total protein are probably off. DOMS is essentially micro-tears in your muscle from the training session. Protein be it straight BCAA's, Whey, animal protein will help recovery but it's not going to immediately eliminate that damage done and it doesn't specifically have to be a shake. There are many many people that get 100% of their protein via food alone; it's more of a lifestyle decision to supplement with shakes. Look at your protein as a whole. How much are you consuming on a daily basis?

Also, what does your training look like? Deadlifting can be difficult to recover from but at the same time you shouldn't be so completely sore all the time; it almost sounds like no adaptation is occurring.