320 pounds on 1,700 a day?????
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arguablysamson wrote: »ditsyblond17 wrote: »Am I doing this right? I'm sedentary and a female. I'm 25 years old. I can't lose no matter how hard I try. I am just STARVING at the end of the day. I binge only at night since starting my diet. Its a ravenous hunger. No matter if I eat 3 meals or 6 a day. Please help!!!!
Oh, you will be hungry. There is not an easy way out of that. But if you want to drop a lot of weight, eat once per day. Pick a time (any time), fill up one plate with anything you prefer (but don't do junk food or you will feel rotten), and give yourself one calorie beverage. You will be averaging 1,300 calories if you fill the plate.
After the meal, allow yourself only calorie-free beverages, but have as many and whatever kinds you want (water, coffee, tea, diet sodas, etc). Give yourself one splurge day once every week-and-a-half to two weeks. You will drop the weight sure enough, but this will take some adjustment, mind you. There is no way around that. This is OMAD (one-meal-a-day) in a nutshell.
Don't worry about exercise for now. Sedentary is okay and it seems to be the biggest mistake people make by working out while significantly obese. For more info, hit up the OMAD forums here or PM me. I dropped 173 lbs in just over ten months on what I just laid out for you.
I think the theory is sound considering calories are calories. Doesn't matter time or how often you eat. However, I would feel miserable I think. Who knows, I naturally gravitate towards not eating breakfast and lunch. Maybe dinner now is just what my body became used to. I just need to reverse this habit for me. Thank you for your input any how. Congratulations on the amazing weight loss.0 -
The only tip you need is eat less and move more. If you pre-log your, days then you have room for evening snacks. Your diary says you only have 27.2 pounds to lose??0
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Liftng4Lis wrote: »The only tip you need is eat less and move more. If you pre-log your, days then you have room for evening snacks. Your diary says you only have 27.2 pounds to lose??
That was a first time goal. Ya know, one that seems to be taking me 5 years
Its definitely a lot more than that. Pre-planning is always a good idea. I've tried a couple times and I did seem a bit more prepared. Thank you for the advice everyone. You all are so sweet to help me. I don't think you will ever realize how much something like this means to me. Thank God for MFP. 0 -
ditsyblond17 wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »The only tip you need is eat less and move more. If you pre-log your, days then you have room for evening snacks. Your diary says you only have 27.2 pounds to lose??
That was a first time goal. Ya know, one that seems to be taking me 5 years Its definitely a lot more than that. Pre-planning is always a good idea. I've tried a couple times and I did seem a bit more prepared. Thank you for the advice everyone. You all are so sweet to help me. I don't think you will ever realize how much something like this means to me. Thank God for MFP.
You can do this. Take each day as it comes and remember, its not a race.0 -
Im 240 and I'm eating 1650 a day0
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If you're 320 pounds now, 1700 calories sounds really low. If you tell MFP you want to lose 2 pounds per week, what does it give you?
FWIW, I'm 125 pounds and I eat 1500 calories when I'm trying to lose. Granted, I'm losing 0.5 pounds per week, but you should be able to eat way more than 1700 calories and still lose just fine.
Caloric needs are primarily determined by lean body mass, not by total body weight.
OP's number is pretty good.
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Your diary is a bit of a mess. IMO you should stop focusing on how much you're eating, and focus on establishing some more consistent eating patterns and accurate logging. Spend some time doing that first, before moving on to worrying about calorie counts.
IMO, etc.
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Eat all your calories at night. That's what I started doing and I'm happy, happy, happy!0
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arguablysamson wrote: »Oh, you will be hungry. There is not an easy way out of that. But if you want to drop a lot of weight, eat once per day. Pick a time (any time), fill up one plate with anything you prefer (but don't do junk food or you will feel rotten), and give yourself one calorie beverage. You will be averaging 1,300 calories if you fill the plate.
After the meal, allow yourself only calorie-free beverages, but have as many and whatever kinds you want (water, coffee, tea, diet sodas, etc). Give yourself one splurge day once every week-and-a-half to two weeks. You will drop the weight sure enough, but this will take some adjustment, mind you. There is no way around that. This is OMAD (one-meal-a-day) in a nutshell.
Don't worry about exercise for now. Sedentary is okay and it seems to be the biggest mistake people make by working out while significantly obese. For more info, hit up the OMAD forums here or PM me. I dropped 173 lbs in just over ten months on what I just laid out for you.
This is beyond stupid.0 -
I would start out doing 2200 x5days......and 2days @500cal.......-1
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This may not go over well with some people, but have you considered trying a low carb diet? Even if it's not sustainable for you in the long term, I find that spending time low carb, because it does have appetite suppressing capabilities, can allow you to feel satiated on the proper amount of calories. Then when you feel more in control, you can add back carbs, and if you have given your stomach time to adapt to the smaller food portions, you will feel much fuller on less food.
Also don't forget to drink a lot of non calorie fluids. Water, tea (diet or unsweetened), drinking sufficient quantities can help you feel fuller without any calories. Eat more non starchy vegetables too!
Best of luck to you.0 -
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I don't have as much to lose as you do, but I can tell you what is working for me. I decide what I'm going to eat the night before, and enter my calories. I've already put in my breakfast, lunch, and dinner for tomorrow. Sometimes I enter my snacks in advance too, but I usually decide what snack sounds good, and then look to see how much of it I can have based on how many calories I have left. I only get to eat 1200 calories a day to lose 2 pounds a week, so I feel your pain. Good luck, and stick with it.0
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allenpriest wrote: »
Really? Oh my gosh, what shall I do now? I remember starving all day because I was suppose to eat 3 well rounded meals a day. Didn't work for me, doesn't work for many. Turn on the eating machine and it doesn't stop. Check out Leangains or any of the other IF methods. But to each their own. This is Finally working for me. It works for others too. No wrong way to restrict calories IMHO.
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caress_elesase wrote: »It depends on what your eating!
If you eat the right foods and drink at least 2L of water a day you won't free staving by night time.
I've starting eating healthy again on Sunday and I always make sure I am full after a meal and that my meals are high in fibre.
In the morning I have porridge with a cup of green tea. Before I head to work.. (depends on my shifts, I'm on the lates this week.) I have swede and carrot mash with some chicken and an apple. At about 4 ish I have a some soup and at about half 8 I have a tuna salad and some strawberries and blueberries with low fat geek yogurt and a little chocolate sprinkles. But the main thing is... you have to tell your worth it'll be worth it in the long run and your body doesn't need the food.
I nearly caved at work today, I work in a supermarket and im surrounded my junk food and chocolate... but I walked away had a glass of water and some fruit tea.
I know it's hard but like I said before it'll be worth.
If your eating because you'd bored find something to do! I've notice I now have energy when I get in from work at 11.30 so do some cleaning, sort out my meals for the next day, watch a bit of Netflix and then head to bed.
Hope this helps
ignore this ..
right foods don't matter..
calorie deficit does….
In this case the right foods do matter to combat what the op is complaining about which is bingeing. If she cna eat foods which deal with her hunger in a better way then she can avoid the hunger and avoid bingeing, which will help maintain her deficit. Clearly the way she is going about it at the moment is not working for her.
she is binging at night because she is hungry and not eating enough calories.
if she changes her calorie allotment up to one pound per week loss then the binge problem should go away.
so gain, right food does to matter ignore that advice.
Disagree, its viable that if she eats food that will fill her up then she wouldnt feel hungry in the first place and may not binge. She may be able to achieve that without changing her calories, but merely by more sensible preplanning and allocation as well as eating more foods that with increase satiety. In that sense right foods are helpful and could solve her problem of feeling hungry. If you look at her diary then theres plenty of scope for swapping out some foods that are high on calories, but low on satiety and nutrition.
This idea of why she is eating so little is a bit of a myth. A 1000 calorie deficit for 2lb a week weight loss, is one that many people can and do manage. Dropping to -500 is one option, but its not the only one. Obviously she needs to find out what works for her and probably use babysteps towards it, but she can get there.0 -
I started this journey at 302.2 the beginning of January and am also 5'7". You can do this! Trust me, if I can do this, you can do this. I am down 21 pounds and am feeling great. You need to decide if you want it though. I suggest you set your goal to lose 1 pound per week, follow the calories MFP gives you, and start making little changes to your diet. Pretty soon the little changes will become habit. Get a food scale, this was huge for me. My serving of cereal turned out to be 2 or 3. My serving of coffee creamer turned out to be 2 or 3 (or maybe 4!). Eat more lean protein (I see changes you could make like lower fat cottage cheese, skim milk vs whole, etc) and drink more water. Plan your meals, read about nutrition, and smile. You got this. 0
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In the beginning I REALLY found myself struggling. I am 5'10" and started at 325 so MFP gave me a seemingly generous calorie goal. If I can remember, it was around 2000. And that was to lose 2lbs a week. I simply made the commitment to log every bite no matter what and for the first week I went over my carloies EVERY day. I made better food choices and I DID try. I just felt like such a failure that I couldn't stick to such a high goal! But I promised myself I wouldn't quit. I just said that I needed to keep the habit of logging. Week #2 I was still over everyday. Unbelievable I thought! But I didn't quit. I looked back and realized that the first week I had been over by about 1000 calories a day. Yup. A. Day. But week 2, I didn't realize that I was only over by about 500 calories a day. Sure, still not great. But without me realizing, I had gotten used to eating slightly less and making even better choices. This whole time I was being so hard on myself and didn't realize that I WAS learning. Just not as quickly as I had liked. Fast forward almost exactly one year and I'm down 81 lbs. Did I want to hit 100 lbs lost this year? Yup. I really, really did. Did I learn WAY more about myself through all of the daily struggles and hurdles instead of hitting a perfect 2 lb/week loss? Absolutely. I'm not trying to tell you to not care about going over your goal... I just remember how discouraging it was in the beginning and hope that you can find what works for you, whatever that may be. Good luck and whatever you do, don't give up!0
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Jaywalker_7 wrote: »In the beginning I REALLY found myself struggling. I am 5'10" and started at 325 so MFP gave me a seemingly generous calorie goal. If I can remember, it was around 2000. And that was to lose 2lbs a week. I simply made the commitment to log every bite no matter what and for the first week I went over my carloies EVERY day. I made better food choices and I DID try. I just felt like such a failure that I couldn't stick to such a high goal! But I promised myself I wouldn't quit. I just said that I needed to keep the habit of logging. Week #2 I was still over everyday. Unbelievable I thought! But I didn't quit. I looked back and realized that the first week I had been over by about 1000 calories a day. Yup. A. Day. But week 2, I didn't realize that I was only over by about 500 calories a day. Sure, still not great. But without me realizing, I had gotten used to eating slightly less and making even better choices. This whole time I was being so hard on myself and didn't realize that I WAS learning. Just not as quickly as I had liked. Fast forward almost exactly one year and I'm down 81 lbs. Did I want to hit 100 lbs lost this year? Yup. I really, really did. Did I learn WAY more about myself through all of the daily struggles and hurdles instead of hitting a perfect 2 lb/week loss? Absolutely. I'm not trying to tell you to not care about going over your goal... I just remember how discouraging it was in the beginning and hope that you can find what works for you, whatever that may be. Good luck and whatever you do, don't give up!
This is me in a nutshell!!! Going over and feeling like a failure. I'm so happy to see a light at the end of the tunnel. Congratulations on tour amazing weight loss! You got very close to 100. Its amazing to lose the weight you did. Keep up the great work. Thank you for encouraging me to notice the small changes. I think the fact that I'm putting myself out there and logging In consistently each day just to be disappointed by the high calories says I am trying. I just need to keep trying. I hope in a year, I'm as changed as you are.0 -
There is no such thing as losing weight, without getting hungry. Regardless if you're just 15 pounds overweight or 150 pounds overweight, everyone suffers thru it. Eventually your mind and stomach get accustomed to the lower calorie consumption and the hunger pangs stop. But it's hard at first, and it is the primary reason people stop trying to lose. They give up and get fatter than ever. Food defeated them! One has to reach down into their sol and ask themselves just how tough they are. Because it's take a very strong person to do it.
Obviously at 320 pounds you're used to eating a couple of thousand more calories in the day, than what your body is burning. Binging at night or any time during the day only spells failure.
Eat more protein, cut your carbs way down. Change your eating habits and lifestyle.
Losing weight is not rocket science, it's just calories in versus calories out, simply meaning eat less, move more.
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I changed my diary to times rather than B/L/D. So I log what I eat between 9-12, 12-3, 3-6, 6-9, 9-12, mostly because I eat 5 smaller meals. Definitely snack on more veggies. What is your favorite? If you like celery, its high fiber, low calorie. Alone is best, but you can have a small amount of hummus or peanut butter. Pre-prep snack bags of veggies. Fruit serving is one cup. Can you switch to 1% milk, light mayo or lowfat cottage cheese? Make little changes where you can to save a few calories. I would definitely recommend skipping the biscuits due to high carb and high calories. Frozen bananas make a great ice cream like consistency with a little milk. Quinoa is great and easy to cook (I make mine in a rice cooker). Cook in low sodium chicken broth for more flavor. Sweet potatoes are good, too. Plenty of free videos on Youtube - even just walking in your living room. Leslie Sansone is great. Even if you just start with 10 minutes a day this week, 15 minutes a day next week (if you're not exercising yet)... do a little bit now while it's cold out, and as we get to Spring and Summer, you'll be ready to walk around the parks! I'm so ready for warmer weather! (I'm out on the East coast right now). All the best!0
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There's been some fantastic advice on here already so I'll just throw in a couple of things that worked for me. First is that this is not a diet. You are not losing weight over a few weeks and then going back to your old habits - you are making a lifestyle change. Otherwise, don't bother.
With that in mind, it's still to think that you can go from eating 3500 or more calories a day to 1700 and then stick with it. If you do, you will likely feel frustrated and will give up on it. I took two or three weeks of practice with logging stuff. There were many days where I'd get incomplete logs or whatnot and that's ok for starting off. It's not that I couldn't log everything, it just takes time to be honest with yourself that yes, you really are eating that many calories - and how the hell do I log in a chicken in a crock pot?!? And yes, I ate fries but did I count all the ketchup too?
Once that time is up and everything is being logged, don't even worry about your goal. What I did instead is that I planned to eat normally for a couple of weeks. What an eye opener. That honestly didn't last as long as I had anticipated. It was probably two or three more weeks before I was consistently hitting my goal but that time allowed me see exactly why I was so fat and two bring my body into this gradually. This allowed me to learn what the different types of hunger felt like and what I needed to do to deal with them slowly and without feeling like I was letting myself down.
The last part of that is the exercise. Start off with simple stuff - like a walk. Once you see that adding calories back on, I at least, started getting almost addicted to it.
*shrug* Take it or leave it but that's just some tips that helped me.
OH! I have also started drinking a BIG glass of COLD water several minutes before every meal and whenever I feel hungry. This doesn't always stop me from snacking but it's sure helped me cut down on the times I do.0 -
There's been some fantastic advice on here already so I'll just throw in a couple of things that worked for me. First is that this is not a diet. You are not losing weight over a few weeks and then going back to your old habits - you are making a lifestyle change. Otherwise, don't bother.
With that in mind, it's still to think that you can go from eating 3500 or more calories a day to 1700 and then stick with it. If you do, you will likely feel frustrated and will give up on it. I took two or three weeks of practice with logging stuff. There were many days where I'd get incomplete logs or whatnot and that's ok for starting off. It's not that I couldn't log everything, it just takes time to be honest with yourself that yes, you really are eating that many calories - and how the hell do I log in a chicken in a crock pot?!? And yes, I ate fries but did I count all the ketchup too?
Once that time is up and everything is being logged, don't even worry about your goal. What I did instead is that I planned to eat normally for a couple of weeks. What an eye opener. That honestly didn't last as long as I had anticipated. It was probably two or three more weeks before I was consistently hitting my goal but that time allowed me see exactly why I was so fat and two bring my body into this gradually. This allowed me to learn what the different types of hunger felt like and what I needed to do to deal with them slowly and without feeling like I was letting myself down.
The last part of that is the exercise. Start off with simple stuff - like a walk. Once you see that adding calories back on, I at least, started getting almost addicted to it.
*shrug* Take it or leave it but that's just some tips that helped me.
OH! I have also started drinking a BIG glass of COLD water several minutes before every meal and whenever I feel hungry. This doesn't always stop me from snacking but it's sure helped me cut down on the times I do.
Thank you for the honesty I feel better knowing that you overcame it. I should be able to as well. I need to start looking for lower calorie foods. The high density stuff is all I'm used to, but I need to retrain my pallet. 0 -
Try a walk after work and before cooking or eating - I always find a little bit of exercise stops me feeling as hungry . As well as drinking heaps of water try blending a banana with a cup of low fat milk and lots of ice which is quite filling0
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ditsyblond17 wrote: »Original_Beauty wrote: »Why are you eating so little? You need to eat more!!! You do not need to be hungry to lose weight.
What's sad is 1,700 appears to be right for 2 pounds a day! So weird. I know a 170 pound woman eating more than me!!! Why is this backwards???
Unfortunately our bodies burn little to no calories by holding onto fat, so your sedentary calories will be pretty low. However, you'll burn more calories with the extra weight than if you didn't have it. So, try to work out more often and eat back half of your exercise calories!
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I think the calorie suggestions on MFP are way too low. It suggests 1500 or so for me to lose a pound a week. But I'm about 190lb now, losing about 6lb a month on what averages out at about 1800 a day, net. I have my calories set lower than that but I know I'm going to go over. And there's room to do that. (Recovering from eating disorders so my approach might be different to most. This works for me, even if lots of weeks end up in the red. I still lose at a really good and consistent rate. No plateaus so far. )
I am sure you could eat way way more and lose lots, and lose consistently.
The way I see it is you can eat more but keep going for months or years because you don't feel deprived, but eventually you will reach your goal. Or, you can eat less, lose fast, give up because you're hungry and bingeing, put the weight back on, plus some more, start again, eat less, lose fast, give up because you're hungry and bingeing...0 -
allenpriest wrote: »
It's just IF, which is exactly what our bodies evolved to do. Doesn't imply "binge approach" at all.
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are you sure you are sedentary activity level?
Just because you do no exercise and have a desk job doesn't mean you are "sedentary" by that classification.
Many mothers using the activity trackers discover that with their kids and family, on non-workout days they are lightly active.
Because indeed, 2 lbs is reasonable if you can take it, but that's 1000 deficit off best estimate of what you really burn daily.
If you are actually burning a bit more than expected - no wonder the hunger.
You can also do a range of course, on days not hungry, you get closer to lower goal, on other days you hit a slightly higher goal.
Both goals will lead to weight loss eventually. It's not like it was going to be exactly 2lbs weekly anyway.0 -
I think all of the advice here were very good especially when people say that you are eating too little.
I'm 190 and I'm still losing on 1800 on most days (I do intermittent fasting and eat less some days). 1700 seems very low for the beginning and your starting weight.
The only advice I would add is don't do everything all at once. Start by controlling your binges and hunger, before trying anything else (exercice, some eating patterns, etc). Give yourself time!
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ditsyblond17 wrote: »Thank you for the advice. I can afford to lose aggressively since I'm obese. But sadly, I can't overcome my binge at the end of the day. During breakfast and lunch I'm not hungry. I feel I can go strong for days. Then 5:00 hits and I am so ravenously hungry (only a few hours after eating a high protein lunch) that I accidentally go over my calories by 500-800 each day. I almost feel like my body is telling me 1,700 isn't right. But May be I'm wrong. Does 1,700 sound like the right number for me?
It sounds to me like you're in a binge eating cycle. You wait too long to eat. Everyone is different and intermittent fasting/ skipping meals works for some people... but its clearly not working for you. I believe you when you say you have no appetite for breakfast- because youre training your brain to get high on waiting for a big caloric payoff at the end of the day. Pretty classic ED symptoms. Eat protein, fats and carbs sometime earlier in the day. Then some more. Then at dinner time... you wont feel ravenous. You wont binge, regret, guilt, shame cycle... but the new habits may cause feelings of depression... you're not getting the intense reward anymore. See a therapist or counselor if that happens! Good luck0 -
You've gotten so much great advice!
You mention binging at night - do you tend to like to eat at night? Personally, I do. I'm where I can only eat 1300 net now to lose 1 lb/week so I have to plan really carefully. For me it works best to eat a very small breakfast (but I HAVE to eat breakfast, that's just how I am), a small lunch and small afternoon snack. I leave as many calories as I possibly can for dinner and snacking in the evening.
If you find you are an evening snacker, it might really help to take this approach. It lets me have a bigger, more extravagant dinner, and I try to save 200-300 calories for post-dinner snacking on whatever I want.0
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