Let's clear up a misconception
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Jesus, people! Get it together! Did I stutter? Yellow peeps! No chocolate covering, no marshmallow christmas trees or easter bunnies. Yellow. Mothertrucking. Peeps. [/quote]
Next miracle diet, only eat when peeps are on grocery shelves! When does the book come out?
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mamapeach910 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »Did we get the bullying/mean people bingo square in this thread yet? Hot dang! We've got everything now.
Yes. And I really wonder if this is considered bullying, how nice other people's lives must be. Because real bullying can be devastating for people.
Word. Since when did disagreeing with people and correcting their misconceptions become bullying?
Serious. It's like MFP version of Godwin's Law but with 'bully' instead of 'nazi'.0 -
herrspoons wrote: »Pop question: What's better? Someone giving bad advice in a supportive and caring way, or someone giving good advice in a brusque and blunt manner?
Assume these are the only two options when considering an answer.
Every single time this... with knobs and bells on for good measure. Good can we get back to the gifs now please.
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herrspoons wrote: »Pop question: What's better? Someone giving bad advice in a supportive and caring way, or someone giving good advice in a brusque and blunt manner?
Assume these are the only two options when considering an answer.
The thing is, it's not always brusque and blunt! Sometimes you brusque guys are pussycats.
You just don't suffer fools gladly.
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""Peeps just aren't that good. In fact, I would go so far as to say they are bad. Disgusting, even."" Diet food isn't supposed to taste good0
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When I see 'peeps' I think 'people' and all this talk of barbecuing them and exploding them in microwaves is making me very uncomfortable.0
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mamapeach910 wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »Pop question: What's better? Someone giving bad advice in a supportive and caring way, or someone giving good advice in a brusque and blunt manner?
Assume these are the only two options when considering an answer.
The thing is, it's not always brusque and blunt! Sometimes you brusque guys are pussycats.
You just don't suffer fools gladly.
Sometimes, it's not good advice either. This is one of the posts from the thread she's referring to:I am certified Fitness instructor and want to say that although you can go low carb and cut out fruit, but you are also losing important vitamins and nutrients your body needs to feed the brain and muscles and assist in proper circulation. Skinny does not mean healthy!!!!
There's another 2 pages of people arguing with judiness because they disagree with how OP phrased something 3 pages earlier, but none of them thought that misinformation was worth correcting. They think it's more important to make her repeat a half dozen times over that she maintains a calorie deficit by counting carbs instead of calories, something she's never denied to begin with. They also choose to ignore the reality that for a lot of people, removing carbs, all other things being equal, makes a difference because of an underlying medical condition that may not be diagnosed or even suspected yet, PCOS being the first that comes to mind. Rather than suggest that, or even just leave the thread altogether, they keep arguing about word choices.0 -
I'm just here for the bacon...and chocolate...and wine...and...0
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mamapeach910 wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »Pop question: What's better? Someone giving bad advice in a supportive and caring way, or someone giving good advice in a brusque and blunt manner?
Assume these are the only two options when considering an answer.
The thing is, it's not always brusque and blunt! Sometimes you brusque guys are pussycats.
You just don't suffer fools gladly.
Sometimes, it's not good advice either. This is one of the posts from the thread she's referring to:I am certified Fitness instructor and want to say that although you can go low carb and cut out fruit, but you are also losing important vitamins and nutrients your body needs to feed the brain and muscles and assist in proper circulation. Skinny does not mean healthy!!!!
There's another 2 pages of people arguing with jillibean because they disagree with how she phrased something 3 pages earlier, but none of them thought that misinformation was worth correcting. They think it's more important to make her repeat a half dozen times over that she maintains a calorie deficit by counting carbs instead of calories, something she's never denied to begin with. They also choose to ignore the reality that for a lot of people, removing carbs, all other things being equal, makes a difference because of an underlying medical condition that may not be diagnosed or even suspected yet, PCOS being the first that comes to mind. Rather than suggest that, or even just leave the thread altogether, they keep arguing about word choices.
so now we are going to argue about that thread in this thread, really?
Here is the actual cliff notes:
OP said she did not restrict calories but still lost weight
she then said that low carb/keto burns fat faster than a traditional diet
she the said that a 500 calorie deficit was an "extreme" diet
she still is saying that she does not restrict calories and only lost weight because she went low carb...
OP has no medical condition that she has identified..
so slight mischaracterization on your part...
I have said this like a thousand times, but keto, low carb, IIFYM, etc are just tools to get one into a calorie deficit. One is not superior to the other. The only time OP's are going to get called n stuff is when they try to say "CICO does not work for me" or "I only lose weight when I cut carbs" etc, etc...
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mamapeach910 wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »Pop question: What's better? Someone giving bad advice in a supportive and caring way, or someone giving good advice in a brusque and blunt manner?
Assume these are the only two options when considering an answer.
The thing is, it's not always brusque and blunt! Sometimes you brusque guys are pussycats.
You just don't suffer fools gladly.
Sometimes, it's not good advice either. This is one of the posts from the thread she's referring to:I am certified Fitness instructor and want to say that although you can go low carb and cut out fruit, but you are also losing important vitamins and nutrients your body needs to feed the brain and muscles and assist in proper circulation. Skinny does not mean healthy!!!!
There's another 2 pages of people arguing with judiness because they disagree with how OP phrased something 3 pages earlier, but none of them thought that misinformation was worth correcting. They think it's more important to make her repeat a half dozen times over that she maintains a calorie deficit by counting carbs instead of calories, something she's never denied to begin with. They also choose to ignore the reality that for a lot of people, removing carbs, all other things being equal, makes a difference because of an underlying medical condition that may not be diagnosed or even suspected yet, PCOS being the first that comes to mind. Rather than suggest that, or even just leave the thread altogether, they keep arguing about word choices.
Oh you are really reaching. People are cutting carbs because they're reading a tarot deck and self-diagnosing PCOS so everyone should give them a pass or suggest they have that looked into?
Give me a break.
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mamapeach910 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »Pop question: What's better? Someone giving bad advice in a supportive and caring way, or someone giving good advice in a brusque and blunt manner?
Assume these are the only two options when considering an answer.
The thing is, it's not always brusque and blunt! Sometimes you brusque guys are pussycats.
You just don't suffer fools gladly.
Sometimes, it's not good advice either. This is one of the posts from the thread she's referring to:I am certified Fitness instructor and want to say that although you can go low carb and cut out fruit, but you are also losing important vitamins and nutrients your body needs to feed the brain and muscles and assist in proper circulation. Skinny does not mean healthy!!!!
There's another 2 pages of people arguing with judiness because they disagree with how OP phrased something 3 pages earlier, but none of them thought that misinformation was worth correcting. They think it's more important to make her repeat a half dozen times over that she maintains a calorie deficit by counting carbs instead of calories, something she's never denied to begin with. They also choose to ignore the reality that for a lot of people, removing carbs, all other things being equal, makes a difference because of an underlying medical condition that may not be diagnosed or even suspected yet, PCOS being the first that comes to mind. Rather than suggest that, or even just leave the thread altogether, they keep arguing about word choices.
Oh you are really reaching. People are cutting carbs because they're reading a tarot deck and self-diagnosing PCOS so everyone should give them a pass or suggest they have that looked into?
Give me a break.
Not even remotely what I said, did you even read it all? In the middle of a fight because she said she counts carbs instead of calories, someone threw out their little broscience that low carb = no fruit = brain and muscle damage. Not one of them thought that was important enough to correct. If it's all about keeping it real and correcting misinformation, and that's really what everyone was there to do, why ignore that and instead keep harping on something she'd already restated repeatedly? Other people did correct it, just not the ones who were allegedly there to give tough love and correct "misinformation."0 -
I have realized that occasionally I have to just give in, or I will give in for good!!!0
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mamapeach910 wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »Pop question: What's better? Someone giving bad advice in a supportive and caring way, or someone giving good advice in a brusque and blunt manner?
Assume these are the only two options when considering an answer.
The thing is, it's not always brusque and blunt! Sometimes you brusque guys are pussycats.
You just don't suffer fools gladly.
Sometimes, it's not good advice either. This is one of the posts from the thread she's referring to:I am certified Fitness instructor and want to say that although you can go low carb and cut out fruit, but you are also losing important vitamins and nutrients your body needs to feed the brain and muscles and assist in proper circulation. Skinny does not mean healthy!!!!
There's another 2 pages of people arguing with judiness because they disagree with how OP phrased something 3 pages earlier, but none of them thought that misinformation was worth correcting. They think it's more important to make her repeat a half dozen times over that she maintains a calorie deficit by counting carbs instead of calories, something she's never denied to begin with. They also choose to ignore the reality that for a lot of people, removing carbs, all other things being equal, makes a difference because of an underlying medical condition that may not be diagnosed or even suspected yet, PCOS being the first that comes to mind. Rather than suggest that, or even just leave the thread altogether, they keep arguing about word choices.
You and two other people in that thread corrected that person's statement, and he/she never came back to argue, so what would've been the point?
Also, the OP in that thread has not said that she has any medical conditions - she is clearly (from her posts) looking for a quick fix or a miracle diet. Her logic isn't exactly sound. When her weight loss slows down from her low carb diet (which it will), she will likely move on to the next diet, which will then be the "only diet that works" for her.
The posters in that thread are trying to get her to understand why she's really losing weight on her low carb diet so that when she reintroduces carbs she won't be surprised when she gains that water weight back.0 -
Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »Pop question: What's better? Someone giving bad advice in a supportive and caring way, or someone giving good advice in a brusque and blunt manner?
Assume these are the only two options when considering an answer.
The thing is, it's not always brusque and blunt! Sometimes you brusque guys are pussycats.
You just don't suffer fools gladly.
Sometimes, it's not good advice either. This is one of the posts from the thread she's referring to:I am certified Fitness instructor and want to say that although you can go low carb and cut out fruit, but you are also losing important vitamins and nutrients your body needs to feed the brain and muscles and assist in proper circulation. Skinny does not mean healthy!!!!
There's another 2 pages of people arguing with judiness because they disagree with how OP phrased something 3 pages earlier, but none of them thought that misinformation was worth correcting. They think it's more important to make her repeat a half dozen times over that she maintains a calorie deficit by counting carbs instead of calories, something she's never denied to begin with. They also choose to ignore the reality that for a lot of people, removing carbs, all other things being equal, makes a difference because of an underlying medical condition that may not be diagnosed or even suspected yet, PCOS being the first that comes to mind. Rather than suggest that, or even just leave the thread altogether, they keep arguing about word choices.
You and two other people in that thread corrected that person's statement, and he/she never came back to argue, so what would've been the point?
Also, the OP in that thread has not said that she has any medical conditions - she is clearly (from her posts) looking for a quick fix or a miracle diet. Her logic isn't exactly sound. When her weight loss slows down from her low carb diet (which it will), she will likely move on to the next diet, which will then be the "only diet that works" for her.
The posters in that thread are trying to get her to understand why she's really losing weight on her low carb diet so that when she reintroduces carbs she won't be surprised when she gains that water weight back.
What's the point of the 4 pages of arguing they've already done, when she's already explained it to them?0 -
Is there a way to unsubscribe from a thread? This is beyond silly.0
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Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »Pop question: What's better? Someone giving bad advice in a supportive and caring way, or someone giving good advice in a brusque and blunt manner?
Assume these are the only two options when considering an answer.
The thing is, it's not always brusque and blunt! Sometimes you brusque guys are pussycats.
You just don't suffer fools gladly.
Sometimes, it's not good advice either. This is one of the posts from the thread she's referring to:I am certified Fitness instructor and want to say that although you can go low carb and cut out fruit, but you are also losing important vitamins and nutrients your body needs to feed the brain and muscles and assist in proper circulation. Skinny does not mean healthy!!!!
There's another 2 pages of people arguing with judiness because they disagree with how OP phrased something 3 pages earlier, but none of them thought that misinformation was worth correcting. They think it's more important to make her repeat a half dozen times over that she maintains a calorie deficit by counting carbs instead of calories, something she's never denied to begin with. They also choose to ignore the reality that for a lot of people, removing carbs, all other things being equal, makes a difference because of an underlying medical condition that may not be diagnosed or even suspected yet, PCOS being the first that comes to mind. Rather than suggest that, or even just leave the thread altogether, they keep arguing about word choices.
You and two other people in that thread corrected that person's statement, and he/she never came back to argue, so what would've been the point?
Also, the OP in that thread has not said that she has any medical conditions - she is clearly (from her posts) looking for a quick fix or a miracle diet. Her logic isn't exactly sound. When her weight loss slows down from her low carb diet (which it will), she will likely move on to the next diet, which will then be the "only diet that works" for her.
The posters in that thread are trying to get her to understand why she's really losing weight on her low carb diet so that when she reintroduces carbs she won't be surprised when she gains that water weight back.
What's the point of the 4 pages of arguing they've already done, when she's already explained it to them?
Because she hasn't actually explained anything...0 -
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Rather than suggest that, or even just leave the thread altogether, they keep arguing about word choices.
This kind of thing goes on in many threads...if they get long enough, you'll see...
Try saying something about your "diet."
And someone will chirp "It's not a diet. Diets fail. Make a lifestyle change!
When acutally - what you eat on a regular basis...is....your...diet.
But you have to make sure you word it properly so someone with an issue with words doesn't come and correct you.
You'll even see someone making fun of my comment about not calling junk food junk food..and calling it "fun" food. In the context of this thread, the idea was it was to be an occasional treat added to a nutritionally sound diet (oops, lifestyle change, ) that meets most if not all of your daily macros...just for FUN. Not for every meal, every day...and then he suggested that we rename diabetes to "diafunbetes" or something like that and added "fun" to other words like cholesterol etc. When if anyone had bothered to read the context of the discussion (the serious one, not the silly sarcasm posts..) they would know what I meant. Unless I misinterpreted the mocking...which I doubt...but hey. I could, I suppose, call it "bullying" too...but....
I really don't like the way the term bullying is thrown around these days. Everything that is not in agreement is "bullying" to some people. Wow...maybe it's time everyone puts their big person panties on and just listens to one another.
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mamapeach910 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »Pop question: What's better? Someone giving bad advice in a supportive and caring way, or someone giving good advice in a brusque and blunt manner?
Assume these are the only two options when considering an answer.
The thing is, it's not always brusque and blunt! Sometimes you brusque guys are pussycats.
You just don't suffer fools gladly.
Sometimes, it's not good advice either. This is one of the posts from the thread she's referring to:I am certified Fitness instructor and want to say that although you can go low carb and cut out fruit, but you are also losing important vitamins and nutrients your body needs to feed the brain and muscles and assist in proper circulation. Skinny does not mean healthy!!!!
There's another 2 pages of people arguing with judiness because they disagree with how OP phrased something 3 pages earlier, but none of them thought that misinformation was worth correcting. They think it's more important to make her repeat a half dozen times over that she maintains a calorie deficit by counting carbs instead of calories, something she's never denied to begin with. They also choose to ignore the reality that for a lot of people, removing carbs, all other things being equal, makes a difference because of an underlying medical condition that may not be diagnosed or even suspected yet, PCOS being the first that comes to mind. Rather than suggest that, or even just leave the thread altogether, they keep arguing about word choices.
Oh you are really reaching. People are cutting carbs because they're reading a tarot deck and self-diagnosing PCOS so everyone should give them a pass or suggest they have that looked into?
Give me a break.
Not even remotely what I said, did you even read it all? In the middle of a fight because she said she counts carbs instead of calories, someone threw out their little broscience that low carb = no fruit = brain and muscle damage. Not one of them thought that was important enough to correct. If it's all about keeping it real and correcting misinformation, and that's really what everyone was there to do, why ignore that and instead keep harping on something she'd already restated repeatedly? Other people did correct it, just not the ones who were allegedly there to give tough love and correct "misinformation."
Oh good grief. Cherry pick away. You found one example. Wow. People stuck to the op and didn't derail the thread and stuck to the site guidelines. Amazing.
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Rather than suggest that, or even just leave the thread altogether, they keep arguing about word choices.
This kind of thing goes on in many threads...if they get long enough, you'll see...
Try saying something about your "diet."
And someone will chirp "It's not a diet. Diets fail. Make a lifestyle change!
When acutally - what you eat on a regular basis...is....your...diet.
But you have to make sure you word it properly so someone with an issue with words doesn't come and correct you.
You'll even see someone making fun of my comment about not calling junk food junk food..and calling it "fun" food. In the context of this thread, the idea was it was to be an occasional treat added to a nutritionally sound diet (oops, lifestyle change, ) that meets most if not all of your daily macros...just for FUN. Not for every meal, every day...and then he suggested that we rename diabetes to "diafunbetes" or something like that and added "fun" to other words like cholesterol etc. When if anyone had bothered to read the context of the discussion (the serious one, not the silly sarcasm posts..) they would know what I meant. Unless I misinterpreted the mocking...which I doubt...but hey. I could, I suppose, call it "bullying" too...but....
I really don't like the way the term bullying is thrown around these days. Everything that is not in agreement is "bullying" to some people. Wow...maybe it's time everyone puts their big person panties on and just listens to one another.
I don't think it's bullying, but I do think it's hypocrisy. People go in those threads to troll and argue, or sit back with popcorn and watch the arguing. Why not just admit it, instead of pretending they're doing it for some greater good? Think how much time would be saved if they'd just admit, "I really don't care if you listen to me or not, I'm just here to poke you with a stick to see how long it takes to make you blow up or leave the site?"0 -
Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »Pop question: What's better? Someone giving bad advice in a supportive and caring way, or someone giving good advice in a brusque and blunt manner?
Assume these are the only two options when considering an answer.
The thing is, it's not always brusque and blunt! Sometimes you brusque guys are pussycats.
You just don't suffer fools gladly.
Sometimes, it's not good advice either. This is one of the posts from the thread she's referring to:I am certified Fitness instructor and want to say that although you can go low carb and cut out fruit, but you are also losing important vitamins and nutrients your body needs to feed the brain and muscles and assist in proper circulation. Skinny does not mean healthy!!!!
There's another 2 pages of people arguing with judiness because they disagree with how OP phrased something 3 pages earlier, but none of them thought that misinformation was worth correcting. They think it's more important to make her repeat a half dozen times over that she maintains a calorie deficit by counting carbs instead of calories, something she's never denied to begin with. They also choose to ignore the reality that for a lot of people, removing carbs, all other things being equal, makes a difference because of an underlying medical condition that may not be diagnosed or even suspected yet, PCOS being the first that comes to mind. Rather than suggest that, or even just leave the thread altogether, they keep arguing about word choices.
You and two other people in that thread corrected that person's statement, and he/she never came back to argue, so what would've been the point?
Also, the OP in that thread has not said that she has any medical conditions - she is clearly (from her posts) looking for a quick fix or a miracle diet. Her logic isn't exactly sound. When her weight loss slows down from her low carb diet (which it will), she will likely move on to the next diet, which will then be the "only diet that works" for her.
The posters in that thread are trying to get her to understand why she's really losing weight on her low carb diet so that when she reintroduces carbs she won't be surprised when she gains that water weight back.
What's the point of the 4 pages of arguing they've already done, when she's already explained it to them?
why do you care?
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Rather than suggest that, or even just leave the thread altogether, they keep arguing about word choices.
This kind of thing goes on in many threads...if they get long enough, you'll see...
Try saying something about your "diet."
And someone will chirp "It's not a diet. Diets fail. Make a lifestyle change!
When acutally - what you eat on a regular basis...is....your...diet.
But you have to make sure you word it properly so someone with an issue with words doesn't come and correct you.
You'll even see someone making fun of my comment about not calling junk food junk food..and calling it "fun" food. In the context of this thread, the idea was it was to be an occasional treat added to a nutritionally sound diet (oops, lifestyle change, ) that meets most if not all of your daily macros...just for FUN. Not for every meal, every day...and then he suggested that we rename diabetes to "diafunbetes" or something like that and added "fun" to other words like cholesterol etc. When if anyone had bothered to read the context of the discussion (the serious one, not the silly sarcasm posts..) they would know what I meant. Unless I misinterpreted the mocking...which I doubt...but hey. I could, I suppose, call it "bullying" too...but....
I really don't like the way the term bullying is thrown around these days. Everything that is not in agreement is "bullying" to some people. Wow...maybe it's time everyone puts their big person panties on and just listens to one another.
I don't think it's bullying, but I do think it's hypocrisy. People go in those threads to troll and argue, or sit back with popcorn and watch the arguing. Why not just admit it, instead of pretending they're doing it for some greater good? Think how much time would be saved if they'd just admit, "I really don't care if you listen to me or not, I'm just here to poke you with a stick to see how long it takes to make you blow up or leave the site?"
so it is trolling to correct pseudoscience? that is an interesting definition ...0 -
Just gonna throw this out there, since it hasn't been mentioned yet... but in the Mid-Atlantic, where we have Rita's Water Ice, there's 'Peeps Ice'. I've had it. It tastes exactly like a Peep. And yes, it's yellow.
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I have never seen Peeps Ice at a Rita's. Must look next summer!0
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Rather than suggest that, or even just leave the thread altogether, they keep arguing about word choices.
This kind of thing goes on in many threads...if they get long enough, you'll see...
Try saying something about your "diet."
And someone will chirp "It's not a diet. Diets fail. Make a lifestyle change!
When acutally - what you eat on a regular basis...is....your...diet.
But you have to make sure you word it properly so someone with an issue with words doesn't come and correct you.
You'll even see someone making fun of my comment about not calling junk food junk food..and calling it "fun" food. In the context of this thread, the idea was it was to be an occasional treat added to a nutritionally sound diet (oops, lifestyle change, ) that meets most if not all of your daily macros...just for FUN. Not for every meal, every day...and then he suggested that we rename diabetes to "diafunbetes" or something like that and added "fun" to other words like cholesterol etc. When if anyone had bothered to read the context of the discussion (the serious one, not the silly sarcasm posts..) they would know what I meant. Unless I misinterpreted the mocking...which I doubt...but hey. I could, I suppose, call it "bullying" too...but....
I really don't like the way the term bullying is thrown around these days. Everything that is not in agreement is "bullying" to some people. Wow...maybe it's time everyone puts their big person panties on and just listens to one another.
I don't think it's bullying, but I do think it's hypocrisy. People go in those threads to troll and argue, or sit back with popcorn and watch the arguing. Why not just admit it, instead of pretending they're doing it for some greater good? Think how much time would be saved if they'd just admit, "I really don't care if you listen to me or not, I'm just here to poke you with a stick to see how long it takes to make you blow up or leave the site?"
Is walking, chip on your shoulder listed in the MFP exercise data base?
So you think you have everyone on "the other side" and their motives all sussed out here. I'm just speechless. You are making so many assumptions that it's making my head spin.
It's great that you low carb and found a way of eating that fits great for you, but seriously, everyone else who low carbs is now under your protection and exempt from any sort of criticism? It really, really comes across that way from your posts.
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not to start WWIII but I think peeps are disgusting...sorry0
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