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  • nuttynanners
    nuttynanners Posts: 249 Member
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    Phrick wrote: »
    Try reading up on endocrinology and hormones.

    A lot of the foods we eat influence our hormones, thereby affecting our metabolism. It could be that you have a thyroid issue, or something else.

    Now, this may be unpopular advice, but I am currently reading a book by Jillian Michaels called Master Your Metabolism.

    I think she can be unrealistic at times about what is affordable, but she has great advice on what to look out for that could be sabotaging your metabolism, and what foods to eat to help restore balance.

    In her book, she tells how she bounced from fad diet to fad diet while training her body religiously, but couldn't figure out why she kept gaining weight. She explains what she did to repair her metabolism so that she can eat more, feel better, and still maintain optimal health.

    Although you may not agree with every little thing she says, if you're looking for answers, I would definitely recommend starting there!

    it's worth noting that Jillian Michaels has thyroid disease, which of course would negatively impact her metabolism - it's not solely about what she was or wasn't eating, it is in relation to how her body's faulty thyroid hormone production was affecting the CI-CO equation.

    I would hope that her book mentions that you need medical treatment for that condition. You can't correct for thyroid insufficiency with diet.

    For sure. It definitely advises you to consult a doctor. Jillian still believes in modern medicine...unlike a lot of celebrities on the west coast lol.
  • nuttynanners
    nuttynanners Posts: 249 Member
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    Phrick wrote: »
    Try reading up on endocrinology and hormones.

    A lot of the foods we eat influence our hormones, thereby affecting our metabolism. It could be that you have a thyroid issue, or something else.

    Now, this may be unpopular advice, but I am currently reading a book by Jillian Michaels called Master Your Metabolism.

    I think she can be unrealistic at times about what is affordable, but she has great advice on what to look out for that could be sabotaging your metabolism, and what foods to eat to help restore balance.

    In her book, she tells how she bounced from fad diet to fad diet while training her body religiously, but couldn't figure out why she kept gaining weight. She explains what she did to repair her metabolism so that she can eat more, feel better, and still maintain optimal health.

    Although you may not agree with every little thing she says, if you're looking for answers, I would definitely recommend starting there!

    it's worth noting that Jillian Michaels has thyroid disease, which of course would negatively impact her metabolism - it's not solely about what she was or wasn't eating, it is in relation to how her body's faulty thyroid hormone production was affecting the CI-CO equation.

    If I remember correctly, though, she didn't know she had a thyroid issue until quite recently. I believe her doctor discovered it after she wrote the book, so who knows when it manifested itself. I think Jillian talks about it in her podcast.

    This is all super beside the point at hand though, haha. My bad. :)
  • acorsaut89
    acorsaut89 Posts: 1,147 Member
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    Phrick wrote: »
    Try reading up on endocrinology and hormones.

    A lot of the foods we eat influence our hormones, thereby affecting our metabolism. It could be that you have a thyroid issue, or something else.

    Now, this may be unpopular advice, but I am currently reading a book by Jillian Michaels called Master Your Metabolism.

    I think she can be unrealistic at times about what is affordable, but she has great advice on what to look out for that could be sabotaging your metabolism, and what foods to eat to help restore balance.

    In her book, she tells how she bounced from fad diet to fad diet while training her body religiously, but couldn't figure out why she kept gaining weight. She explains what she did to repair her metabolism so that she can eat more, feel better, and still maintain optimal health.

    Although you may not agree with every little thing she says, if you're looking for answers, I would definitely recommend starting there!

    it's worth noting that Jillian Michaels has thyroid disease, which of course would negatively impact her metabolism - it's not solely about what she was or wasn't eating, it is in relation to how her body's faulty thyroid hormone production was affecting the CI-CO equation.

    That's all you can blame on the thyroid issue. This situation will slow down your metabolic rate which might mean you have to watch so much closer what you actually eat and your CI-CO equation may look different than someone else's who doesn't have that same issue. That's all really.
  • atypicalsmith
    atypicalsmith Posts: 2,742 Member
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    CICO is still CICO. Some people burn calories immediately, and some don't. But CICO still rules. No matter what your thyroid condition is. No matter what medications you are taking. No matter what anything else! As long as you are burning more calories than you eat, you will lose weight. Some people faster than others; some people slower, but still losing all the same.
  • ValentineNicole
    ValentineNicole Posts: 51 Member
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    Not meaning to disrespect anyone yelling CICO, but I maintained a weight of 120 pounds until this year, and I eat approximately 1000-1600 calories every single day. And I weigh everything :)

    And I think something else is being misconstrued - just because I weigh MYSELF daily doesn't mean I've given this "a day." I've tried every diet under the sun since my weight started creeping up. I was in damned near panic mode when I hit 150. I give every change a minimum of one full month... and my weight just keeps crawling upward.
  • Grumpy619
    Grumpy619 Posts: 3 Member
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    hi! thought I would chime in....I am NOT a fan of calories in vs. calories out.....honestly, there is soooo much more involved! I lost 97 pounds 6 years ago & have maintained that loss. Now, I am eating the same amount of calories (yes, I got into the habit of writing everything down & still do) and exercising even more (running half marathons, marathons, CrossFit, biking, hiking) and have gained 20 pounds in the last 2 years. My doctor says it is all Menopause related and I have to "tweak" my diet- less carbs, more healthy fats, and yes, fewer calories!! I gained 50 pounds of my excess weight years ago in a 6 months stint on medication---yes, calories in vs. calories out did NOT work then, and doesn't always work now......
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  • smr09012
    smr09012 Posts: 42 Member
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    Any symptoms of PCOS? I know that it can cause super rapid weight gain as well...
  • LKArgh
    LKArgh Posts: 5,179 Member
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    smr09012 wrote: »
    Any symptoms of PCOS? I know that it can cause super rapid weight gain as well...

    No, it cannot.
  • PRMinx
    PRMinx Posts: 4,585 Member
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    Grumpy619 wrote: »
    hi! thought I would chime in....I am NOT a fan of calories in vs. calories out.....honestly, there is soooo much more involved! I lost 97 pounds 6 years ago & have maintained that loss. Now, I am eating the same amount of calories (yes, I got into the habit of writing everything down & still do) and exercising even more (running half marathons, marathons, CrossFit, biking, hiking) and have gained 20 pounds in the last 2 years. My doctor says it is all Menopause related and I have to "tweak" my diet- less carbs, more healthy fats, and yes, fewer calories!! I gained 50 pounds of my excess weight years ago in a 6 months stint on medication---yes, calories in vs. calories out did NOT work then, and doesn't always work now......
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    CICO absolutely does work, but it needs to be modified over time and especially after a major life change.
  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
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    Stop blaming it on your thyroid, and start eating less and exercising more. Even your thyroid can't control CICO!

    Well now, wait a minute. If she does have a thyroid problem and it's untreated, attempting to diet will be like shoveling you know what against the tide.

    There's no need to tell her to stop "blaming" her thyroid. Thyroid will affect the CO portion of CICO if it's not properly regulated. Someone with an unregulated thyroid will lose very, very, very slowly.

    Now, saying that, I doubt the OP is eating at the 1400 that she thinks she is.

  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,868 Member
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    I would get a second opinion and likely fire my doctor. Your doctor works for you...I consider my doctor to work for me just like any other contractor, etc. If I don't like what's gong on, FIRED.
  • HotCuppaJo
    HotCuppaJo Posts: 477 Member
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    aggelikik wrote: »
    smr09012 wrote: »
    Any symptoms of PCOS? I know that it can cause super rapid weight gain as well...

    No, it cannot.

    It looks like it CAN, actually.....

    Why does polycystic ovary syndrome cause weight gain?
    PCOS makes it more difficult for the body to use the hormone insulin, which normally helps convert sugars and starches from foods into energy. This condition -- called insulin resistance -- can cause insulin and sugar -- glucose -- to build up in the bloodstream.

    High insulin levels increase the production of male hormones called androgens. High androgen levels lead to symptoms such as body hair growth, acne, irregular periods -- and weight gain. Because the weight gain is triggered by male hormones, it is typically in the abdomen. That is where men tend to carry weight. So, instead of having a pear shape, women with PCOS have more of an apple shape.

    Abdominal fat is the most dangerous kind of fat. That’s because it is associated with an increased risk of heart disease and other health conditions.
  • kamakazeekim
    kamakazeekim Posts: 1,183 Member
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    CICO is still CICO. Some people burn calories immediately, and some don't. But CICO still rules. No matter what your thyroid condition is. No matter what medications you are taking. No matter what anything else! As long as you are burning more calories than you eat, you will lose weight. Some people faster than others; some people slower, but still losing all the same.

    I disagree. I have polycystic ovarian syndrome and was very strict about eating 1200 calories and working out 5 days a week and I kept gaining weight. My endocrinologist put me on the maximum dose of metformin and without changing anything else I lost a TON of weight.

    Op...how old are you? Do you have regular periods? I started gaining weight like crazy when was was around 23. I only have one or two periods a year. I went to an endocrinologist who diagnosed me as having PCOS. All the other doctors I went to just told me to lose weight. Go to a specialist and get your hormone levels checked out.
  • smr09012
    smr09012 Posts: 42 Member
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    aggelikik wrote: »
    smr09012 wrote: »
    Any symptoms of PCOS? I know that it can cause super rapid weight gain as well...

    No, it cannot.

    I was going for simplicity, but let me rephrase...

    Weight gain is often a symptom of PCOS because your body no longer uses insulin like it should. High levels of insulin cause you to produce more androgens than a woman would normally produce, and those androgens trigger weight gain. You could be eating the exact same number of calories as someone without PCOS, but your weight will go up. Hence why women with a lower body weight are often prescribed metformin (which is commonly used for diabetes) to treat their PCOS symptoms.

    Everything does boil down to CICO, but different health issues change how your body deals with CO.
  • smr09012
    smr09012 Posts: 42 Member
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    CICO is still CICO. Some people burn calories immediately, and some don't. But CICO still rules. No matter what your thyroid condition is. No matter what medications you are taking. No matter what anything else! As long as you are burning more calories than you eat, you will lose weight. Some people faster than others; some people slower, but still losing all the same.

    I disagree. I have polycystic ovarian syndrome and was very strict about eating 1200 calories and working out 5 days a week and I kept gaining weight. My endocrinologist put me on the maximum dose of metformin and without changing anything else I lost a TON of weight.

    Op...how old are you? Do you have regular periods? I started gaining weight like crazy when was was around 23. I only have one or two periods a year. I went to an endocrinologist who diagnosed me as having PCOS. All the other doctors I went to just told me to lose weight. Go to a specialist and get your hormone levels checked out.


    This. Thank you.
  • callsitlikeiseeit
    callsitlikeiseeit Posts: 8,627 Member
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    kidney issues can result in water retention and added weight gain

    you need to get to a doc and get some tests run so they can eliminate any medical reason. If theres no medical reason, you can work on fine tuning diet
  • ReeseG4350
    ReeseG4350 Posts: 146 Member
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    valentinenicole, check a few things on the thyroid list:
    Do you have problems waking in the morning or feel groggy for a while after getting up? (or even a large portion of your day!)

    Do you have trouble swallowing?

    When you wash your hair, do you notice a lot of hair in the drain? Or do you notice a lot of hair in your hairbrush after brushing?

    Do your eyebrows seem to be thinning (or disappearing altogether) at the outermost edges?

    These are just a few of the visual symptoms that MAY indicate a thyroid condition. If your doctor is not taking your concerns seriously, ask him or her to refer you to an endocrinologist. (If your insurance does not require a referral, just call and make the appointment yourself.)

    Bottom line, however, goes beyond the thyroid concerns. If your doctor is not taking your worries seriously, then you definitely need to find a new doctor. One of the most wonderful things my endo said when I first started seeing her was, "We do this together."

    I have believed that healthcare is a PARTNERSHIP between doctor and patient. You are not just a tool in the doctor's arsenal of weapons, you are the single most important tool! If your doctor is not using this 'tool' to its greatest advantage then the doctor is not working FOR YOU.

    And, be aware that there are other things that may cause the symptoms you see. Among them, of course, is the dietary issue which you may not accept as valid but may, indeed, be a factor. But, given the number of possible causes, your doctor should have ordered a full spectrum analysis a long time ago.

    YOU are in charge of your health including whomever you choose to oversee the healthcare factors. It is up to you to make that decision for yourself, not out of convenience but for your health! Do what's right for you!
  • tulips_and_tea
    tulips_and_tea Posts: 5,714 Member
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    @‌ignatca Maybe that's what I need - a dietitian. I'm just so at a loss as to what to do. I tried low carb high fat with no results this summer, so now I'm trying lower carb (not drastic like before) with more plant based foods. I just don't even know what else to do.

    @PRminx - I try not to eat over my calories unless I'm truly hungry - the exceptions would be moreso 1 off celebrations. My sister's birthday (Feb 10), Valentine's Day. I won't have another exception day until Easter, so that should keep me stable. I may be eating under due to fear at this point.
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    @Phrick That's what my mom keeps telling me to do - to try to see someone that takes me seriously. This doctor has only seen me at a heavier weight (I just moved back home after years in CA, MI, and MN). Maybe she just thinks I'm lying... but I really am normally a healthy weight, and SOMETHING happened... and it's just not overeating from what I can tell.

    Can you get a copy of your full medical file from your previous doctor(s)? A comparison of stats may help both you and your doctor tremendously.
  • ferniejoy
    ferniejoy Posts: 61 Member
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    I agree with those that say get a different doctor. The fact that you do lose a little with low carb signifies something. Reese has some good points.