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lucygoesrawr wrote: »
I got the impression he was saying he checked how much he had already been eating and found it was over what MFP would recommend for weight gain (and presumably hadn't been gaining) - so the calorie estimate is wrong.I think he said that MFP gave him 3500 to gain but when he logged in all his food he is at 4700 for the day ..so he is 1200 calories over....or did I miss something???
That's how I took it, based on his stating, "So I scan in the normal food I eat on a Daliy basis and it added up to 4700 cal."
I guess I could have taken it incorrectly, but that's what it sounds like he's saying.
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markyboy1979 wrote: »jenglish712 wrote: »How are you measuring your food?
People trying to lose routinely underestimate what they eat and those trying to gain routinely overestimate. If you aren't weighing solids theres a good chance your estimate is off.
But a calculator is just an estimate. If you are accurately weighing and logging and not gaining... add more calories.
I weigh all my food. I work in construction so I'm burning cal all day then hit the gym. If eat the amount of cal MFP are suggesting I wail start losing weight.
then you need to eat 1200 less calories and eat to 3500...
Lol but I'm trying to gain muscle mass ??0 -
markyboy1979 wrote: »markyboy1979 wrote: »jenglish712 wrote: »How are you measuring your food?
People trying to lose routinely underestimate what they eat and those trying to gain routinely overestimate. If you aren't weighing solids theres a good chance your estimate is off.
But a calculator is just an estimate. If you are accurately weighing and logging and not gaining... add more calories.
I weigh all my food. I work in construction so I'm burning cal all day then hit the gym. If eat the amount of cal MFP are suggesting I wail start losing weight.
then you need to eat 1200 less calories and eat to 3500...
Lol but I'm trying to gain muscle mass ??
He is under the assumption that you would be gaining too rapidly at that level of intake. That's a 1200 calorie surplus.
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I set my goal to gain weight 1 lb per week that's when MFP said to eat 3500 cal. I think your right tho 4700 or around that is maintenance for me I think I have to increase my cal by 500 see what happens after a few weeks. I did make my dairy public so yous can have a look. Thanks for your time.markyboy1979 wrote: »Can anyone clear this up for me. Just sign up to MFP set my goals which is to gain weight by gaining 1lb per week and it says to eat 3500 cal a day. So I scan in the normal food I eat on a Daliy basis and it added up to 4700 cal so I'm 1200 cal over what it recommends.
OK? MFP's goals are just estimates based upon simple calculations of averages. For many people, those numbers are fine. For others - apparently, you'd be one of these others - the estimates don't work. They/you would have to track for a while and see what, exactly, happens when you eat X amount of Calories and adjust as necessary.
What happens when you eat the 4700 Cals per day? Do you lose, maintain, or gain weight? And if it's lose or gain, how much? If you maintain at 4700, but want to gain weight, add anywhere from 250-500 Calories.
If you go to your MFP home page, click "Goals," then "Change Goals," you can manually change your Calorie and nutrient goals.
edit: I see 3laine75 has already addressed this, as I was replying.0 -
markyboy1979 wrote: »
I set my goal to gain weight 1 lb per week that's when MFP said to eat 3500 cal. I think your right tho 4700 or around that is maintenance for me I think I have to increase my cal by 500 see what happens after a few weeks. I did make my dairy public so yous can have a look. Thanks for your time.markyboy1979 wrote: »Can anyone clear this up for me. Just sign up to MFP set my goals which is to gain weight by gaining 1lb per week and it says to eat 3500 cal a day. So I scan in the normal food I eat on a Daliy basis and it added up to 4700 cal so I'm 1200 cal over what it recommends.
OK? MFP's goals are just estimates based upon simple calculations of averages. For many people, those numbers are fine. For others - apparently, you'd be one of these others - the estimates don't work. They/you would have to track for a while and see what, exactly, happens when you eat X amount of Calories and adjust as necessary.
What happens when you eat the 4700 Cals per day? Do you lose, maintain, or gain weight? And if it's lose or gain, how much? If you maintain at 4700, but want to gain weight, add anywhere from 250-500 Calories.
If you go to your MFP home page, click "Goals," then "Change Goals," you can manually change your Calorie and nutrient goals.
edit: I see 3laine75 has already addressed this, as I was replying.
I am massively confused now...
OP - please answer the following..
is 3500 the number that MFP gave you to gain one pound per week..Yes/NO
is4500 the number that you get when you enter all your food for the day...yes/no
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markyboy1979 wrote: »
I set my goal to gain weight 1 lb per week that's when MFP said to eat 3500 cal. I think your right tho 4700 or around that is maintenance for me I think I have to increase my cal by 500 see what happens after a few weeks. I did make my dairy public so yous can have a look. Thanks for your time.markyboy1979 wrote: »Can anyone clear this up for me. Just sign up to MFP set my goals which is to gain weight by gaining 1lb per week and it says to eat 3500 cal a day. So I scan in the normal food I eat on a Daliy basis and it added up to 4700 cal so I'm 1200 cal over what it recommends.
OK? MFP's goals are just estimates based upon simple calculations of averages. For many people, those numbers are fine. For others - apparently, you'd be one of these others - the estimates don't work. They/you would have to track for a while and see what, exactly, happens when you eat X amount of Calories and adjust as necessary.
What happens when you eat the 4700 Cals per day? Do you lose, maintain, or gain weight? And if it's lose or gain, how much? If you maintain at 4700, but want to gain weight, add anywhere from 250-500 Calories.
If you go to your MFP home page, click "Goals," then "Change Goals," you can manually change your Calorie and nutrient goals.
edit: I see 3laine75 has already addressed this, as I was replying.
Holy protein intake, Batman!0 -
markyboy1979 wrote: »
I set my goal to gain weight 1 lb per week that's when MFP said to eat 3500 cal. I think your right tho 4700 or around that is maintenance for me I think I have to increase my cal by 500 see what happens after a few weeks. I did make my dairy public so yous can have a look. Thanks for your time.markyboy1979 wrote: »Can anyone clear this up for me. Just sign up to MFP set my goals which is to gain weight by gaining 1lb per week and it says to eat 3500 cal a day. So I scan in the normal food I eat on a Daliy basis and it added up to 4700 cal so I'm 1200 cal over what it recommends.
OK? MFP's goals are just estimates based upon simple calculations of averages. For many people, those numbers are fine. For others - apparently, you'd be one of these others - the estimates don't work. They/you would have to track for a while and see what, exactly, happens when you eat X amount of Calories and adjust as necessary.
What happens when you eat the 4700 Cals per day? Do you lose, maintain, or gain weight? And if it's lose or gain, how much? If you maintain at 4700, but want to gain weight, add anywhere from 250-500 Calories.
If you go to your MFP home page, click "Goals," then "Change Goals," you can manually change your Calorie and nutrient goals.
edit: I see 3laine75 has already addressed this, as I was replying.
Holy protein intake, Batman!
Indeed. Raise carbs, drop protein.0 -
LolBroScience wrote: »markyboy1979 wrote: »markyboy1979 wrote: »jenglish712 wrote: »How are you measuring your food?
People trying to lose routinely underestimate what they eat and those trying to gain routinely overestimate. If you aren't weighing solids theres a good chance your estimate is off.
But a calculator is just an estimate. If you are accurately weighing and logging and not gaining... add more calories.
I weigh all my food. I work in construction so I'm burning cal all day then hit the gym. If eat the amount of cal MFP are suggesting I wail start losing weight.
then you need to eat 1200 less calories and eat to 3500...
Lol but I'm trying to gain muscle mass ??
He is under the assumption that you would be gaining too rapidly at that level of intake. That's a 1200 calorie surplus.
YES.......YESmarkyboy1979 wrote: »
I set my goal to gain weight 1 lb per week that's when MFP said to eat 3500 cal. I think your right tho 4700 or around that is maintenance for me I think I have to increase my cal by 500 see what happens after a few weeks. I did make my dairy public so yous can have a look. Thanks for your time.markyboy1979 wrote: »Can anyone clear this up for me. Just sign up to MFP set my goals which is to gain weight by gaining 1lb per week and it says to eat 3500 cal a day. So I scan in the normal food I eat on a Daliy basis and it added up to 4700 cal so I'm 1200 cal over what it recommends.
OK? MFP's goals are just estimates based upon simple calculations of averages. For many people, those numbers are fine. For others - apparently, you'd be one of these others - the estimates don't work. They/you would have to track for a while and see what, exactly, happens when you eat X amount of Calories and adjust as necessary.
What happens when you eat the 4700 Cals per day? Do you lose, maintain, or gain weight? And if it's lose or gain, how much? If you maintain at 4700, but want to gain weight, add anywhere from 250-500 Calories.
If you go to your MFP home page, click "Goals," then "Change Goals," you can manually change your Calorie and nutrient goals.
edit: I see 3laine75 has already addressed this, as I was replying.
I am massively confused now...
OP - please answer the following..
is 3500 the number that MFP gave you to gain one pound per week..Yes/NO
is4500 the number that you get when you enter all your food for the day...yes/no
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markyboy1979 wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »markyboy1979 wrote: »markyboy1979 wrote: »jenglish712 wrote: »How are you measuring your food?
People trying to lose routinely underestimate what they eat and those trying to gain routinely overestimate. If you aren't weighing solids theres a good chance your estimate is off.
But a calculator is just an estimate. If you are accurately weighing and logging and not gaining... add more calories.
I weigh all my food. I work in construction so I'm burning cal all day then hit the gym. If eat the amount of cal MFP are suggesting I wail start losing weight.
then you need to eat 1200 less calories and eat to 3500...
Lol but I'm trying to gain muscle mass ??
He is under the assumption that you would be gaining too rapidly at that level of intake. That's a 1200 calorie surplus.
YES.......YESmarkyboy1979 wrote: »
I set my goal to gain weight 1 lb per week that's when MFP said to eat 3500 cal. I think your right tho 4700 or around that is maintenance for me I think I have to increase my cal by 500 see what happens after a few weeks. I did make my dairy public so yous can have a look. Thanks for your time.markyboy1979 wrote: »Can anyone clear this up for me. Just sign up to MFP set my goals which is to gain weight by gaining 1lb per week and it says to eat 3500 cal a day. So I scan in the normal food I eat on a Daliy basis and it added up to 4700 cal so I'm 1200 cal over what it recommends.
OK? MFP's goals are just estimates based upon simple calculations of averages. For many people, those numbers are fine. For others - apparently, you'd be one of these others - the estimates don't work. They/you would have to track for a while and see what, exactly, happens when you eat X amount of Calories and adjust as necessary.
What happens when you eat the 4700 Cals per day? Do you lose, maintain, or gain weight? And if it's lose or gain, how much? If you maintain at 4700, but want to gain weight, add anywhere from 250-500 Calories.
If you go to your MFP home page, click "Goals," then "Change Goals," you can manually change your Calorie and nutrient goals.
edit: I see 3laine75 has already addressed this, as I was replying.
I am massively confused now...
OP - please answer the following..
is 3500 the number that MFP gave you to gain one pound per week..Yes/NO
is4500 the number that you get when you enter all your food for the day...yes/no
Ok then you need to eat to the 3500 number for about three to four weeks and see how it goes. If you do not gain enough then add in another 100 calories and reassess...if you gain too much then back off, you gain a pound a week then change nothing...
if you eat 4500 a day then you are going to gain like two pounds a week....
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markyboy1979 wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »markyboy1979 wrote: »markyboy1979 wrote: »jenglish712 wrote: »How are you measuring your food?
People trying to lose routinely underestimate what they eat and those trying to gain routinely overestimate. If you aren't weighing solids theres a good chance your estimate is off.
But a calculator is just an estimate. If you are accurately weighing and logging and not gaining... add more calories.
I weigh all my food. I work in construction so I'm burning cal all day then hit the gym. If eat the amount of cal MFP are suggesting I wail start losing weight.
then you need to eat 1200 less calories and eat to 3500...
Lol but I'm trying to gain muscle mass ??
He is under the assumption that you would be gaining too rapidly at that level of intake. That's a 1200 calorie surplus.
YES.......YESmarkyboy1979 wrote: »
I set my goal to gain weight 1 lb per week that's when MFP said to eat 3500 cal. I think your right tho 4700 or around that is maintenance for me I think I have to increase my cal by 500 see what happens after a few weeks. I did make my dairy public so yous can have a look. Thanks for your time.markyboy1979 wrote: »Can anyone clear this up for me. Just sign up to MFP set my goals which is to gain weight by gaining 1lb per week and it says to eat 3500 cal a day. So I scan in the normal food I eat on a Daliy basis and it added up to 4700 cal so I'm 1200 cal over what it recommends.
OK? MFP's goals are just estimates based upon simple calculations of averages. For many people, those numbers are fine. For others - apparently, you'd be one of these others - the estimates don't work. They/you would have to track for a while and see what, exactly, happens when you eat X amount of Calories and adjust as necessary.
What happens when you eat the 4700 Cals per day? Do you lose, maintain, or gain weight? And if it's lose or gain, how much? If you maintain at 4700, but want to gain weight, add anywhere from 250-500 Calories.
If you go to your MFP home page, click "Goals," then "Change Goals," you can manually change your Calorie and nutrient goals.
edit: I see 3laine75 has already addressed this, as I was replying.
I am massively confused now...
OP - please answer the following..
is 3500 the number that MFP gave you to gain one pound per week..Yes/NO
is4500 the number that you get when you enter all your food for the day...yes/no
Ok then you need to eat to the 3500 number for about three to four weeks and see how it goes. If you do not gain enough then add in another 100 calories and reassess...if you gain too much then back off, you gain a pound a week then change nothing...
if you eat 4500 a day then you are going to gain like two pounds a week....
Exactly...
You're making this far to confusing....
If your TDEE is 3500 eat slightly above it to gain.
If your TDEE is 4500 eat slightly above it to gain.
You have to find out what your actual TDEE is. The 3500 given by MFP is an estimate based upon the info you input.0 -
LolBroScience wrote: »markyboy1979 wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »markyboy1979 wrote: »markyboy1979 wrote: »jenglish712 wrote: »How are you measuring your food?
People trying to lose routinely underestimate what they eat and those trying to gain routinely overestimate. If you aren't weighing solids theres a good chance your estimate is off.
But a calculator is just an estimate. If you are accurately weighing and logging and not gaining... add more calories.
I weigh all my food. I work in construction so I'm burning cal all day then hit the gym. If eat the amount of cal MFP are suggesting I wail start losing weight.
then you need to eat 1200 less calories and eat to 3500...
Lol but I'm trying to gain muscle mass ??
He is under the assumption that you would be gaining too rapidly at that level of intake. That's a 1200 calorie surplus.
YES.......YESmarkyboy1979 wrote: »
I set my goal to gain weight 1 lb per week that's when MFP said to eat 3500 cal. I think your right tho 4700 or around that is maintenance for me I think I have to increase my cal by 500 see what happens after a few weeks. I did make my dairy public so yous can have a look. Thanks for your time.markyboy1979 wrote: »Can anyone clear this up for me. Just sign up to MFP set my goals which is to gain weight by gaining 1lb per week and it says to eat 3500 cal a day. So I scan in the normal food I eat on a Daliy basis and it added up to 4700 cal so I'm 1200 cal over what it recommends.
OK? MFP's goals are just estimates based upon simple calculations of averages. For many people, those numbers are fine. For others - apparently, you'd be one of these others - the estimates don't work. They/you would have to track for a while and see what, exactly, happens when you eat X amount of Calories and adjust as necessary.
What happens when you eat the 4700 Cals per day? Do you lose, maintain, or gain weight? And if it's lose or gain, how much? If you maintain at 4700, but want to gain weight, add anywhere from 250-500 Calories.
If you go to your MFP home page, click "Goals," then "Change Goals," you can manually change your Calorie and nutrient goals.
edit: I see 3laine75 has already addressed this, as I was replying.
I am massively confused now...
OP - please answer the following..
is 3500 the number that MFP gave you to gain one pound per week..Yes/NO
is4500 the number that you get when you enter all your food for the day...yes/no
Ok then you need to eat to the 3500 number for about three to four weeks and see how it goes. If you do not gain enough then add in another 100 calories and reassess...if you gain too much then back off, you gain a pound a week then change nothing...
if you eat 4500 a day then you are going to gain like two pounds a week....
Exactly...
You're making this far to confusing....
If your TDEE is 3500 eat slightly above it to gain.
If your TDEE is 4500 eat slightly above it to gain.
You have to find out what your actual TDEE is. The 3500 given by MFP is an estimate based upon the info you input.
This. If you logged a typical day that at the same level you've been eating at for months as 4500 calories and you haven't been gaining, you need to eat more as that is likely your maintenance.
If you logged 4500 calories because you wanted to up your calories so you can gain weight and your maintenance is actually 3500, you're going to gain too quickly, which will likely result in far more fat than you want.0 -
Yes you probably would be right in most cases but I've been eating 4500 for about a year just to maintain 77kg. Now I want to grow to 90kg so I have to add another 500 cal I guess. In some cases MFP is wrong. It's handy to track my macros.LolBroScience wrote: »markyboy1979 wrote: »markyboy1979 wrote: »jenglish712 wrote: »How are you measuring your food?
People trying to lose routinely underestimate what they eat and those trying to gain routinely overestimate. If you aren't weighing solids theres a good chance your estimate is off.
But a calculator is just an estimate. If you are accurately weighing and logging and not gaining... add more calories.
I weigh all my food. I work in construction so I'm burning cal all day then hit the gym. If eat the amount of cal MFP are suggesting I wail start losing weight.
then you need to eat 1200 less calories and eat to 3500...
Lol but I'm trying to gain muscle mass ??
He is under the assumption that you would be gaining too rapidly at that level of intake. That's a 1200 calorie surplus.
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markyboy1979 wrote: »
Yes you probably would be right in most cases but I've been eating 4500 for about a year just to maintain 77kg. Now I want to grow to 90kg so I have to add another 500 cal I guess. In some cases MFP is wrong. It's handy to track my macros.LolBroScience wrote: »markyboy1979 wrote: »markyboy1979 wrote: »jenglish712 wrote: »How are you measuring your food?
People trying to lose routinely underestimate what they eat and those trying to gain routinely overestimate. If you aren't weighing solids theres a good chance your estimate is off.
But a calculator is just an estimate. If you are accurately weighing and logging and not gaining... add more calories.
I weigh all my food. I work in construction so I'm burning cal all day then hit the gym. If eat the amount of cal MFP are suggesting I wail start losing weight.
then you need to eat 1200 less calories and eat to 3500...
Lol but I'm trying to gain muscle mass ??
He is under the assumption that you would be gaining too rapidly at that level of intake. That's a 1200 calorie surplus.
This was the info we're missing. If you've been eating at that level and not gaining, you'll need to eat more. And that's going to get pricey (it's a ton of food). I know you said you have an active job, but if you do any dedicated cardio not as a part of your job, I'd cut that out to try and save some calories (expenditure).0 -
Lol I definitely don't do any cardio just ain't got the time. Thanks for your help bud.0
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Sorry dude if it's confuse you my maintenance is 4500 so I have to eat more. The estimate from MFP is just that and obviously not right for me. Thanks for ya help buddy.LolBroScience wrote: »markyboy1979 wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »markyboy1979 wrote: »markyboy1979 wrote: »jenglish712 wrote: »How are you measuring your food?
People trying to lose routinely underestimate what they eat and those trying to gain routinely overestimate. If you aren't weighing solids theres a good chance your estimate is off.
But a calculator is just an estimate. If you are accurately weighing and logging and not gaining... add more calories.
I weigh all my food. I work in construction so I'm burning cal all day then hit the gym. If eat the amount of cal MFP are suggesting I wail start losing weight.
then you need to eat 1200 less calories and eat to 3500...
Lol but I'm trying to gain muscle mass ??
He is under the assumption that you would be gaining too rapidly at that level of intake. That's a 1200 calorie surplus.
YES.......YESmarkyboy1979 wrote: »
I set my goal to gain weight 1 lb per week that's when MFP said to eat 3500 cal. I think your right tho 4700 or around that is maintenance for me I think I have to increase my cal by 500 see what happens after a few weeks. I did make my dairy public so yous can have a look. Thanks for your time.markyboy1979 wrote: »Can anyone clear this up for me. Just sign up to MFP set my goals which is to gain weight by gaining 1lb per week and it says to eat 3500 cal a day. So I scan in the normal food I eat on a Daliy basis and it added up to 4700 cal so I'm 1200 cal over what it recommends.
OK? MFP's goals are just estimates based upon simple calculations of averages. For many people, those numbers are fine. For others - apparently, you'd be one of these others - the estimates don't work. They/you would have to track for a while and see what, exactly, happens when you eat X amount of Calories and adjust as necessary.
What happens when you eat the 4700 Cals per day? Do you lose, maintain, or gain weight? And if it's lose or gain, how much? If you maintain at 4700, but want to gain weight, add anywhere from 250-500 Calories.
If you go to your MFP home page, click "Goals," then "Change Goals," you can manually change your Calorie and nutrient goals.
edit: I see 3laine75 has already addressed this, as I was replying.
I am massively confused now...
OP - please answer the following..
is 3500 the number that MFP gave you to gain one pound per week..Yes/NO
is4500 the number that you get when you enter all your food for the day...yes/no
Ok then you need to eat to the 3500 number for about three to four weeks and see how it goes. If you do not gain enough then add in another 100 calories and reassess...if you gain too much then back off, you gain a pound a week then change nothing...
if you eat 4500 a day then you are going to gain like two pounds a week....
Exactly...
You're making this far to confusing....
If your TDEE is 3500 eat slightly above it to gain.
If your TDEE is 4500 eat slightly above it to gain.
You have to find out what your actual TDEE is. The 3500 given by MFP is an estimate based upon the info you input.
This. If you logged a typical day that at the same level you've been eating at for months as 4500 calories and you haven't been gaining, you need to eat more as that is likely your maintenance.
If you logged 4500 calories because you wanted to up your calories so you can gain weight and your maintenance is actually 3500, you're going to gain too quickly, which will likely result in far more fat than you want.
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markyboy1979 wrote: »
Yes you probably would be right in most cases but I've been eating 4500 for about a year just to maintain 77kg. Now I want to grow to 90kg so I have to add another 500 cal I guess. In some cases MFP is wrong. It's handy to track my macros.LolBroScience wrote: »markyboy1979 wrote: »markyboy1979 wrote: »jenglish712 wrote: »How are you measuring your food?
People trying to lose routinely underestimate what they eat and those trying to gain routinely overestimate. If you aren't weighing solids theres a good chance your estimate is off.
But a calculator is just an estimate. If you are accurately weighing and logging and not gaining... add more calories.
I weigh all my food. I work in construction so I'm burning cal all day then hit the gym. If eat the amount of cal MFP are suggesting I wail start losing weight.
then you need to eat 1200 less calories and eat to 3500...
Lol but I'm trying to gain muscle mass ??
He is under the assumption that you would be gaining too rapidly at that level of intake. That's a 1200 calorie surplus.
OK if 4500 is your maintenance...then you need to eat 5000 a day to gain one pound per week ...
that is insane amount of calories...do you run marathons or something???0 -
Lol na man it feels like it tho some days at work. I've never really track my calories before just knew I needed X amount to maintain.0
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markyboy1979 wrote: »
Yes you probably would be right in most cases but I've been eating 4500 for about a year just to maintain 77kg. Now I want to grow to 90kg so I have to add another 500 cal I guess. In some cases MFP is wrong. It's handy to track my macros.LolBroScience wrote: »markyboy1979 wrote: »markyboy1979 wrote: »jenglish712 wrote: »How are you measuring your food?
People trying to lose routinely underestimate what they eat and those trying to gain routinely overestimate. If you aren't weighing solids theres a good chance your estimate is off.
But a calculator is just an estimate. If you are accurately weighing and logging and not gaining... add more calories.
I weigh all my food. I work in construction so I'm burning cal all day then hit the gym. If eat the amount of cal MFP are suggesting I wail start losing weight.
then you need to eat 1200 less calories and eat to 3500...
Lol but I'm trying to gain muscle mass ??
He is under the assumption that you would be gaining too rapidly at that level of intake. That's a 1200 calorie surplus.
OK if 4500 is your maintenance...then you need to eat 5000 a day to gain one pound per week ...
that is insane amount of calories...do you run marathons or something???
See! I'm always right
(I keep having to tell bf this as well XD)
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Lol the woman is always right0
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