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    edited November 2024 in Fitness and Exercise
    I'm looking for a cardio based workout for boxing or kickboxing. I know there are a lot of resources on youtube. Can anyone recommend a good channel?

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    • Posts: 1,297 Member
      Are you going for cardio or technique? Both?
    • Posts: 12,950 Member
      No, there are no good trainers on youtube.

      However, there might be excellent ones in your town/village/postal stop.
    • Posts: 960 Member
      Are you just trying to workout or are you trying to get better at kickboxing?

      Either way, it would suit you well to train like you intend to fight. There aren't many out of shape thai fighters :)

      I would recommend doing something like this:
      3 rounds of 3 minutes shadow boxing w/ 1 min rest between rounds
      3 rounds of 3 minutes jump rope w/ 1 min rest between rounds
      3 rounds of 3 minutes heavy bag w/ 1 min rest between rounds
      3 rounds of 3 minutes calisthenics (push ups, sit ups, etc...) w/ 1 min rest between rounds

      This is just an example, you could do 12 straight rounds of shadow boxing or 12 straight rounds of heavy bag work. Whatever you like, just try to work both of them in plus some bodyweight exercises at the end.

      Since you're a beginner, just work on your 1, 2 (jab, right cross) for a couple weeks. Then focus on incorporating some footwork. Then learn your left hook and work that in (jab, right cross, hook) for a week. Then learn your rear leg thai kick and work that in (jab, right cross, hook, right thai kick) etc... You can look up plenty of instructional videos on youtube to teach you the correct form.
    • Posts: 495 Member
      Lofteren wrote: »
      Are you just trying to workout or are you trying to get better at kickboxing?

      Either way, it would suit you well to train like you intend to fight. There aren't many out of shape thai fighters :)

      I would recommend doing something like this:
      3 rounds of 3 minutes shadow boxing w/ 1 min rest between rounds
      3 rounds of 3 minutes jump rope w/ 1 min rest between rounds
      3 rounds of 3 minutes heavy bag w/ 1 min rest between rounds
      3 rounds of 3 minutes calisthenics (push ups, sit ups, etc...) w/ 1 min rest between rounds

      This is just an example, you could do 12 straight rounds of shadow boxing or 12 straight rounds of heavy bag work. Whatever you like, just try to work both of them in plus some bodyweight exercises at the end.

      Since you're a beginner, just work on your 1, 2 (jab, right cross) for a couple weeks. Then focus on incorporating some footwork. Then learn your left hook and work that in (jab, right cross, hook) for a week. Then learn your rear leg thai kick and work that in (jab, right cross, hook, right thai kick) etc... You can look up plenty of instructional videos on youtube to teach you the correct form.



      Thanks, this is very helpful. There is a place close that has kickboxing and boxing and I have taken there sample class. Not much instruction, they just run you thru a routine as fast as they can. I'm looking for something that focuses on technique. I'm already in good shape but I'm looking for a good workout too.
    • Posts: 12,950 Member
      If you want technique, hire a coach.
    • Posts: 1,297 Member
      dbmata wrote: »
      If you want technique, hire a coach.


      I agree. Better to learn the right way than have to unlearn the wrong way.
    • Posts: 12,950 Member
      DjinnMarie wrote: »
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      I agree. Better to learn the right way than have to unlearn the wrong way.

      Yup. I've thrown a lot of punches, taken a few too.

      After a few weeks with a coach, a LOT of things were fixed, increasing efficiency, power, consistency, speed.
    • Posts: 3,661 Member
      I'm quite certain there are a lot of personal trainer hacks... can the same be said for martial arts trainers?

      how to know a good one from a bad one?
    • Posts: 12,950 Member
      No_Finish_Line wrote: »
      I'm quite certain there are a lot of personal trainer hacks... can the same be said for martial arts trainers?

      how to know a good one from a bad one?

      Ask them to punch you. lol.

      Take a look at the success of their trainees.
    • Posts: 1,297 Member
      dbmata wrote: »
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      Ask them to punch you. lol.

      Take a look at the success of their trainees.

      I can only manage to get to my coach once a week. I record my drills at home for form and technique, yet every week I have to unlearn some bad habits. I really wish I could go more often.

    • Posts: 12,950 Member
      DjinnMarie wrote: »
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      I can only manage to get to my coach once a week. I record my drills at home for form and technique, yet every week I have to unlearn some bad habits. I really wish I could go more often.

      It would help.

      I have a work thing coming where I might have need to take a few week intensive in krav maga, kinda looking forward to it. I'm already mean, I can only imagine the fun if I can be even more effective.
    • Posts: 354 Member
      Heavy bag + kickboxing + not really knowing what you do = torn wrists and fractured feet.
    • Posts: 1,297 Member
      dbmata wrote: »
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      It would help.

      I have a work thing coming where I might have need to take a few week intensive in krav maga, kinda looking forward to it. I'm already mean, I can only imagine the fun if I can be even more effective.

      Jealous. Getting out more often sans kids is not a possibility at the moment. Maybe next year.
    • Posts: 12,950 Member
      benadryl.

      I kid. (Not really, but for keeping up appearances, I kid.)
    • Posts: 1,297 Member
      dbmata wrote: »
      benadryl.

      I kid. (Not really, but for keeping up appearances, I kid.)


      I would consider it if I could drag their drugged bodies into the gym with me... But I have a feeling social services would be called.
    • Posts: 12,950 Member
      there's a lot of benefit to getting kids into a combat art when young. School kids are animals, and being able to defend themselves is important.
    • Posts: 1,297 Member
      dbmata wrote: »
      there's a lot of benefit to getting kids into a combat art when young. School kids are animals, and being able to defend themselves is important.

      Kids are 3,5 and 9. Maybe my 9 year old, but not the youngsters.
    • Posts: 960 Member
      No_Finish_Line wrote: »
      I'm quite certain there are a lot of personal trainer hacks... can the same be said for martial arts trainers?

      how to know a good one from a bad one?

      A good coach will have actual fighters that train under them and those fighters will have a decent fight history and be humble, hardworking athletes. A good coach will not be friendly all of the time, you'll see them yelling at people on occasion (not all the time, just when they need to) and they will get straight down to business once the training session begins. If you go to a muay thai, boxing or mma gym that is full of egotistical show offs then the coaching likely sucks. If you go to one that is full of middle aged, over weight women who are there to "get a workout in" the coaching likely sucks and if you go to one that has mostly children as students then the coaching likely sucks.
    • Posts: 12,950 Member
      DjinnMarie wrote: »
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      Kids are 3,5 and 9. Maybe my 9 year old, but not the youngsters.

      a buddy of mine has his 3 year old daughter in krav maga.

      Says he doesn't want disrespectful boys in her future. Only ones he doesn't have to shoot and skin.
    • Posts: 960 Member
      dbmata wrote: »
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      a buddy of mine has his 3 year old daughter in krav maga.

      Says he doesn't want disrespectful boys in her future. Only ones he doesn't have to shoot and skin.

      The MMA school I attend trains kids as young as 4. They start off with Judo and as they get older introduce Jiu Jitsu, Wrestling and Muay Thai.

      I started in Shotokan Karate when I was 4 years old and it really laid a solid foundation of fitness and ability to play other sports when I got older. I would recommend putting your kids in martial arts as young as possible.
    • Posts: 235 Member
      No_Finish_Line wrote: »
      I'm quite certain there are a lot of personal trainer hacks... can the same be said for martial arts trainers?

      how to know a good one from a bad one?

      This is an important question. I'd love to hear other people's thoughts. I trained at 4 different dojos and visited countless others during about 6.5 years of TKD and karate training, so here are my thoughts:

      First thing to realize is that many people who run dojos are out of shape and not very good at the skills they teach. The good MA instructors that I have had have been in good shape, and they do weight and cardio training in addition to MA training in order to maintain athletic ability. If you walk into a dojo where the instructors look like out of shape accountants, leave. My son took about 5 minutes of TKD at a local community center where the instructors were large and soft and became confused every time they tried to explain a technique. Even without me saying anything, he quit immediately.

      Second thing is that sometimes there is lot of magical thinking in MA schools, which can be really annoying. If you find a dojo where people talk about what a strike "would have done" but no one ever actually hits anyone/anything, leave. In my experience, good dojos have students spend a lot of time hitting/kicking heavy bags, markiwaras and (most important) heavily padded instructors or fellow students. You will fight like you train, and if you never have the experience of hitting another person as hard as you can while they are trying to hit you, you won't know how to do it.

      Third, there can be a lot of BS ego and faux machismo in MA schools. If you find a place where the chief instructor dresses up in an elaborate silk costume or a multicolored belt, leave. On the other hand, if you find humble, friendly, direct, down to earth instructors who wear simple white gis and worn-out black belts and work incredibly hard, you may have found a great school.
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      mreichard wrote: »
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      This is an important question. I'd love to hear other people's thoughts. I trained at 4 different dojos and visited countless others during about 6.5 years of TKD and karate training, so here are my thoughts:

      First thing to realize is that many people who run dojos are out of shape and not very good at the skills they teach. The good MA instructors that I have had have been in good shape, and they do weight and cardio training in addition to MA training in order to maintain athletic ability. If you walk into a dojo where the instructors look like out of shape accountants, leave. My son took about 5 minutes of TKD at a local community center where the instructors were large and soft and became confused every time they tried to explain a technique. Even without me saying anything, he quit immediately.

      Second thing is that sometimes there is lot of magical thinking in MA schools, which can be really annoying. If you find a dojo where people talk about what a strike "would have done" but no one ever actually hits anyone/anything, leave. In my experience, good dojos have students spend a lot of time hitting/kicking heavy bags, markiwaras and (most important) heavily padded instructors or fellow students. You will fight like you train, and if you never have the experience of hitting another person as hard as you can while they are trying to hit you, you won't know how to do it.

      Third, there can be a lot of BS ego and faux machismo in MA schools. If you find a place where the chief instructor dresses up in an elaborate silk costume or a multicolored belt, leave. On the other hand, if you find humble, friendly, direct, down to earth instructors who wear simple white gis and worn-out black belts and work incredibly hard, you may have found a great school.

      Well said, I share your opions on the above.
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