Not logging fruits & veggies?

linamisiute
linamisiute Posts: 124 Member
edited November 14 in Food and Nutrition
anyone has tried stop logging in fruits and veggies ans still eat their calories? And lose weight?
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  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    Not logging fruits and vegetables doesn't make the calories go away. Not sure why you would want to do this.
  • sheldonklein
    sheldonklein Posts: 854 Member
    Your question doesn't make any sense. If you're not logging fruits and vegetables, how would you know if you're "eating your calories?"
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    No. Because if I ate at my deficit and then ate 200 calories worth of fruit, I'd be at maintenance....
  • Serah87
    Serah87 Posts: 5,481 Member
    A lot of fruits and veggies are high in calories, bananas, avocados, etc. count them, it adds up quickly.
  • linamisiute
    linamisiute Posts: 124 Member
    It just a question, i dont think fruits or veggies will make you gain weight or make you fat!
    I was asking that because my friend on weight watchers and they don't count fruits and veggies( im not talking here about high calories veggies like avocados and potatoes) .
  • linamisiute
    linamisiute Posts: 124 Member
    Its just so annoying when you have to do a salad to weight and count everyyyything...
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    linamisiute wrote: »
    It just a question, i dont think fruits or veggies will make you gain weight or make you fat!
    I was asking that because my friend on weight watchers and they don't count fruits and veggies( im not talking here about high calories veggies like avocados and potatoes) .

    No food in particular makes you fat. Eating over maintenance causes you to gain weight. If you're eating at maintenance, and then you add a few hundred calories in fruit every day-you will gain weight.

    I don't know what's up with weight watchers.
  • Serah87
    Serah87 Posts: 5,481 Member
    linamisiute wrote: »
    It just a question, i dont think fruits or veggies will make you gain weight or make you fat!
    I was asking that because my friend on weight watchers and they don't count fruits and veggies( im not talking here about high calories veggies like avocados and potatoes) .
    Yes they will if you eat over your maintenance!!!
  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
    Well I'd have 250 unaccounted calories for today (or more if I get lazy and swap my logged popcorn + marge for more fruits or veggies). So... no.
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    linamisiute wrote: »
    Its just so annoying when you have to do a salad to weight and count everyyyything...

    I don't weigh my leafy greens, that's personal preference. But once you're in the swing of things, it's super fast. A lot of my salads are the same, and if not-I'm usually putting in ingredients I've used before or in other dishes, and I typically have about the same amount all the time (150 grams of zucchini, 75 grams of tomato, etc), so they are already in my recent meals list.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    linamisiute wrote: »
    It just a question, i dont think fruits or veggies will make you gain weight or make you fat!
    I was asking that because my friend on weight watchers and they don't count fruits and veggies( im not talking here about high calories veggies like avocados and potatoes) .

    Any calorie eaten in excess can make you gain weight. In a typical day, I eat hundreds of calories of fruits and vegetables -- not accounting for those could easily derail my progress.
  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
    linamisiute wrote: »
    Its just so annoying when you have to do a salad to weight and count everyyyything...

    How so? Takes the same amount of time as it takes to weigh and log everything else.
  • Kida_Adeylne
    Kida_Adeylne Posts: 201 Member
    If you input the salad in recipes it's a lot easier to log, but yeah you really do have to weigh everything. An apple or banana is easily 100+cal. Weight watchers is much different than weight watchers, and I believe the reason they stopped giving points for fruit and veg is because it would really be less than half a point or something for an apple and you would have to eat a lot of fruit to stop weight loss on that method.
  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    Logging fruits and vegetables is super easy on MFP.
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
    They have calories, so they count. I don't get it.
  • Shanairah1991
    Shanairah1991 Posts: 152 Member
    I find logging veggies a pain in my tush since I eat a lot of them in every meal but 30 cals here and 30 cals there add up! So I do it anyways. The only thing I am sonetimes lazy about is spinach.
  • jennifershoo
    jennifershoo Posts: 3,198 Member
    Of course eating too much fruits and veggies will make you fat!
  • ivoluntas
    ivoluntas Posts: 30 Member
    I count everything. Even the ten calories my lettuce has. It all adds up and I just like being in the habit of logging what I eat.
  • Asher_Ethan
    Asher_Ethan Posts: 2,430 Member
    I tried it and I gained weight. I log EVERYTHING now, even when I take a bite of my kids meal I find it and log it.
  • kayeiam
    kayeiam Posts: 215 Member
    linamisiute wrote: »
    Its just so annoying when you have to do a salad to weight and count everyyyything...

    Question of the day???? So is it not annoying to be over weight? I would think that would be worse than taking the few extra minutes to weigh everything.
  • lisafrancis888
    lisafrancis888 Posts: 119 Member
    When I make myself a salad at home I tend to use the same amounts...ie four cherry tomatoes etc. once I've logged them once it's easy to tick them off next time.
  • Sweet_Pea4
    Sweet_Pea4 Posts: 447 Member
    Yes I think that's the whole point of tracking. You should track everything you eat to reach your goals.
  • linamisiute
    linamisiute Posts: 124 Member
    Thanks for clarifications. Even if some of you have an attitude problems...
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    edited March 2015
    arditarose wrote: »
    linamisiute wrote: »
    It just a question, i dont think fruits or veggies will make you gain weight or make you fat!
    I was asking that because my friend on weight watchers and they don't count fruits and veggies( im not talking here about high calories veggies like avocados and potatoes) .

    No food in particular makes you fat. Eating over maintenance causes you to gain weight. If you're eating at maintenance, and then you add a few hundred calories in fruit every day-you will gain weight.

    I don't know what's up with weight watchers.

    I think WW gives you fewer calories (through the bizarre points system) and then free fruits and veggies with the thought that you will fill up on those and it will encourage you to eat more. I hate the idea that people eat more if free and not if you log--I think it encourages a distinction between "bad" and "good" foods and the idea that logging foods is bad and eating (or logging) less is more. I like to think of my log as a picture of what I eat where I encourage myself to eat (and log) foods, not merely a record of calories (so adding food is a generally positive thing, as it contributes to my health or enjoyment).

    In addition to just wanting to be accurate, it's another reason why logging everything is important.

    Also, it's quite possible to get lots of calories from apples or even brussels sprouts, as others have said. I too estimate greens from time to time.
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    linamisiute wrote: »
    Thanks for clarifications. Even if some of you have an attitude problems...

    LOL post a thread and complains about the comments.
  • wizzybeth
    wizzybeth Posts: 3,578 Member
    If you add up the calories of the daily WW points on the current program, you will see that the daily calorie amount is lower - this is to leave a buffer for what they think you will eat in fruits and veggies. They're not really free - it's just a different system.

    I don't find it too irritating when I make my own salad - I make each one individually - so I usually just use even amounts (i.e. 50 g of each veggie) I don't worry if one is 49g and one is 53g - the calorie count on veggies is so low that if I'm off by a gram or two it won't matter much.
  • Josalinn
    Josalinn Posts: 1,066 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    arditarose wrote: »
    linamisiute wrote: »
    It just a question, i dont think fruits or veggies will make you gain weight or make you fat!
    I was asking that because my friend on weight watchers and they don't count fruits and veggies( im not talking here about high calories veggies like avocados and potatoes) .

    No food in particular makes you fat. Eating over maintenance causes you to gain weight. If you're eating at maintenance, and then you add a few hundred calories in fruit every day-you will gain weight.

    I don't know what's up with weight watchers.

    I think WW gives you fewer calories (through the bizarre points system) and then free fruits and veggies with the thought that you will fill up on those and it will encourage you to eat more. I hate the idea that people eat more if free and not if you log--I think it encourages a distinction between "bad" and "good" foods and the idea that logging foods is bad and eating (or logging) less is more. I like to think of my log as a picture of what I eat where I encourage myself to eat (and log) foods, not merely a record of calories (so adding food is a generally positive thing, as it contributes to my health or enjoyment).

    I tried weight watchers several years. They give you a fair amount less calories (I calculated out my points into calories). Personally I found the point system more confusing than straight up counting calories and then I found MFP. And it was FREE!

    I didn't lose any weight on WW and I think it was because I ate a lot of fruit, that I didn't count. Also WW only gives you like 5 free fruits or something a day.

    Right now my lunch is an apple, banana, kiwi and an egg and all of that is about 300 calories. So if I ate to deficit and then had that lunch I would really be eating at maintenance.

    It sucks to weigh all the parts of a salad. But if you are making it at home you can just throw the bowl on the scale, zero it out and just keep track as you add.
  • meremaid2014
    meremaid2014 Posts: 18
    linamisiute wrote: »
    Its just so annoying when you have to do a salad to weight and count everyyyything...

    If you make the same salad every day, weigh/measure it once and create it as a "recipe." Then you can easily add it without having to type in all the numbers again and again. And if every day you eat a red bell pepper in your salad, you don't HAVE to weigh it every time. Weigh it once and log it. Then the next time, even if the pepper is sliiiiightly bigger or sliiiightly smaller, it's close enough. Veggies like that have such a low calorie content that I think a little estimation can be healthier than being totally rigid!

    I make different salads all the time, so I just leave a half cup measure next to my cutting board, and cut bell peppers until I fill it, then dump in the salad bowl. Then cut carrots until I fill it, etc. It takes a few extra minutes, but it isn't too bad. Weight Watchers is a different system, MFP requires you to count all your calories. Frankly, I enjoy it because I often find myself surprised at the nutritional content of my meals. It isn't that vegetables aren't good for you, but you can still overdo it.
  • wizzybeth
    wizzybeth Posts: 3,578 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    arditarose wrote: »
    linamisiute wrote: »
    It just a question, i dont think fruits or veggies will make you gain weight or make you fat!
    I was asking that because my friend on weight watchers and they don't count fruits and veggies( im not talking here about high calories veggies like avocados and potatoes) .

    No food in particular makes you fat. Eating over maintenance causes you to gain weight. If you're eating at maintenance, and then you add a few hundred calories in fruit every day-you will gain weight.

    I don't know what's up with weight watchers.

    I think WW gives you fewer calories (through the bizarre points system) and then free fruits and veggies with the thought that you will fill up on those and it will encourage you to eat more. I hate the idea that people eat more if free and not if you log--I think it encourages a distinction between "bad" and "good" foods and the idea that logging foods is bad and eating (or logging) less is more. I like to think of my log as a picture of what I eat where I encourage myself to eat (and log) foods, not merely a record of calories (so adding food is a generally positive thing, as it contributes to my health or enjoyment).

    In addition to just wanting to be accurate, it's another reason why logging everything is important.

    Also, it's quite possible to get lots of calories from apples or even brussels sprouts, as others have said. I too estimate greens from time to time.

    I didn't see your post when I added mine. :)

    The OLD WW FlexPoints system was better, IMHO - it assigned a points value based on calories per serving (more complicated than that, it also took into account fiber and fat). Most fruits, except for bananas and avocado, if I recall correctly, were 1 point PER SERVING. Bananas were 2 points. Strawberries had a larger serving size but were still 1 point.

    Most veggies, except for peas, carrots, and corn, I think - were less than 50 calories per serving so they were given a 0 points value. They did make it clear that it is per serving. Peas, corn, and carrots, (I think carrots...I forget, it's been so long) were 1 point per serving.

    This new system makes no sense to me and seems more complex than the old one. I bet they came up with it because the Flex system was easy to research and figure it out without having to join WW and pay their fees. Changing the system made it new and hard to search the web for rogue information leaks and making people join to learn how to use it. LOL that's my suspicion anyway.

  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    Yeah, that old way makes more sense to me too.
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