Coconut milk vs 1% milk

cheryleandjohn

What's your thoughts about coconut milk? I'm doing the switch from 1% milk.

landfish

For me, blech.

However, both my wife and my cousin have issues with lactose and they like the extra fat in their diets so they drink it.

RodaRose

Go for it. I like it better than cow's milk.

Leana088

If you like it go for it.

I personally prefer normal cow's milk, because it has more protein than any of the substitutes. I already struggle to hit my protein goal, so while a substitute milk is tempting because of the lower calories, I would rather not have that extra burden...

belimawr

I prefer regular milk, even skim. Coconut water tastes like, well, water to me.

I don't understand how people who prefer almond or coconut milk can say that skim milk tastes like water and not the same about the former. I just bought coconut, vanilla flavored, and I barely taste anything.

Leana088

belimawr wrote: »

I prefer regular milk, even skim. Coconut water tastes like, well, water to me.

I don't understand how people who prefer almond or coconut milk can say that skim milk tastes like water and not the same about the former. I just bought coconut, vanilla flavored, and I barely taste anything.

Your tastes change I think. When I started losing weight, I switched from regular to skim milk. At first, skim tasted watery to me.

Now, 2 years later, full cream tastes too creamy to me, and I was friggen raised on full cream! Haha.

Alatariel75

belimawr wrote: »

I prefer regular milk, even skim. Coconut water tastes like, well, water to me.

I don't understand how people who prefer almond or coconut milk can say that skim milk tastes like water and not the same about the former. I just bought coconut, vanilla flavored, and I barely taste anything.

HUGE difference between coconut milk and coconut water. Coconut milk is hugely rich, creamy and very high in calories. Used in a lot of Asian cooking, particularly Thai. very coconutty. Coconut water is just weird.

alexsondra34

first of all let me tell you to research this things for yourself and don't take my word for it.

cow's milk produces mucus in the body, it's not digested properly even if you are not lactose intolerant, cows are treated with antibiotics that then pass on to you that not taking into account what they are given to eat and the conditions in which they live and are milked so if you want milk go for organic and make sure you know what you are ingesting.

Coconut milk in addittion to being delicious has antibacterial properties, the fat is the good kind that helps you lose weight not gain it, also you can make it at home by putting some shredded coconut (it can be dry) in a blender jug, adding boiling water and letting it sit for 1 hour, then blend it and pour the mixture on to a colander with really small holes or a muslin cloth, squeeze the liquid onto another recepient and done, it's delicious.

once refrigerated the fat will solidify at the top and the liquid will be at the bottom.

Also why not explore oat milk, hazelnut milk (my favourite), almond milk...
they are all much better nutritionally than cow's milk and there's plenty of recipes on the net on how to make it and their healing properties.

snowflakesav

I like both. I think variety is fun and helps me stick to a better diet.

The coconut milk must be the unsweetened kind. Some groceries only stock the kind with sugar in it. Yuck.

amusedmonkey

I like to dabble in non-dairy "milks" but for me nothing can replace real milk. As for switching, I don't think coconut milk is worth the calories on a regular basis. I drink 2-4 cups of milk a day so if I make the switch to coconut that would mean 600-1200 calories of coconut milk alone, so for me it's not worth it.

cityruss

Which ever one you prefer.

I must be one hell of a mucousy antibiotic ridden mess, because I drink a whole lot of milk. I use full fat, semi skimmed or almond milk.

neanderthin

alexsondra34 wrote: »

first of all let me tell you to research this things for yourself and don't take my word for it.

cow's milk produces mucus in the body, it's not digested properly even if you are not lactose intolerant, cows are treated with antibiotics that then pass on to you that not taking into account what they are given to eat and the conditions in which they live and are milked so if you want milk go for organic and make sure you know what you are ingesting.

Coconut milk in addittion to being delicious has antibacterial properties, the fat is the good kind that helps you lose weight not gain it, also you can make it at home by putting some shredded coconut (it can be dry) in a blender jug, adding boiling water and letting it sit for 1 hour, then blend it and pour the mixture on to a colander with really small holes or a muslin cloth, squeeze the liquid onto another recepient and done, it's delicious.

once refrigerated the fat will solidify at the top and the liquid will be at the bottom.

Also why not explore oat milk, hazelnut milk (my favourite), almond milk...
they are all much better nutritionally than cow's milk and there's plenty of recipes on the net on how to make it and their healing properties.

Yeah, whatever you do OP, don't watch the same documentary this person did.

belimawr

Alatariel75 wrote: »

HUGE difference between coconut milk and coconut water. Coconut milk is hugely rich, creamy and very high in calories. Used in a lot of Asian cooking, particularly Thai. very coconutty. Coconut water is just weird.

Nope, not coconut water. I had the So Delicious brand coconut "milk" as I wanted to give it a try on sale. I stand by my statement, it has a hint of flavor, but really not that much IMO.

Looking at the package however and your statement, while they call it milk, it may in fact fit your definition as water, as it is certainly not high in calories - forty per one cup serving.

neanderthin

belimawr wrote: »

Alatariel75 wrote: »

HUGE difference between coconut milk and coconut water. Coconut milk is hugely rich, creamy and very high in calories. Used in a lot of Asian cooking, particularly Thai. very coconutty. Coconut water is just weird.

Nope, not coconut water. I had the So Delicious brand coconut "milk" as I wanted to give it a try on sale. I stand by my statement, it has a hint of flavor, but really not that much IMO.

Looking at the package however and your statement, while they call it milk, it may in fact fit your definition as water, as it is certainly not high in calories - forty per one cup serving.

They (So Delicious Brand) referred to animal saturated fat as sinister. wow. Also it's not just coconut milk, it a formula and probably why it's lower in calories and fat. Basically it's a coconut type drink and not actually just coconut milk. Mystery solved.

rhoule76

Lactose intolerant here so I drink Coconut milk all the time. It's good.

stevencloser

Who would drink straight coconut milk? The stuff is so high in calories it's not even funny. I just use it for cooking.

amusedmonkey

stevencloser wrote: »

Who would drink straight coconut milk? The stuff is so high in calories it's not even funny. I just use it for cooking.

Exactly.. a scant cup of it is 300 calories. I would rather have a 100 calorie glass of milk and 200 calories of cookies with it (or size up my meal). It does make an amazing calorie bomb of a milkshake though.

alexsondra34

http://bbcgoodfood.com/howto/guide/ingredient-focus-coconut-milk

http://thepaleomom.com/2012/04/recipe-homemade-coconut-milk.html

you cannot compare store bought processed stuff with homemade ever, if you enter homemade coconut milk on the food search you'll see it has 67 calories per 200ml, as it is mostly water and if you want you can even skim the solidified cream and it will be even lower, i use a ratio of 1/3 coconut to 3 parts water.

And for the people who takes a fence at my comment that milk is not good for you ,do your research before you start waving your fists in anger http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2003/dec/13/foodanddrink.weekend, facts are facts, it is your body though so do what you want with it.

evileen99

alexsondra34 wrote: »

first of all let me tell you to research this things for yourself and don't take my word for it.

cow's milk produces mucus in the body,

Nope, milk makes mucus thicker, so it's more noticeable, but doesn't increase production

cows are treated with antibiotics that then pass on to you

Beef cattle are treated with antibiotics. If milk tests positive for antibiotic residue, the whole lot is discarded and the farmer loses it all. Big financial incentive to NOT bring antibiotic treated milk to the dairy

Alluminati

Coconut milk tastes disgusting on cereal. 1%milk tastes better on cereal. Whole milk trumps all.

Alluminati

alexsondra34 wrote: »

http://bbcgoodfood.com/howto/guide/ingredient-focus-coconut-milk

http://thepaleomom.com/2012/04/recipe-homemade-coconut-milk.html

you cannot compare store bought processed stuff with homemade ever, if you enter homemade coconut milk on the food search you'll see it has 67 calories per 200ml, as it is mostly water and if you want you can even skim the solidified cream and it will be even lower, i use a ratio of 1/3 coconut to 3 parts water.

And for the people who takes a fence at my comment that milk is not good for you ,do your research before you start waving your fists in anger http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2003/dec/13/foodanddrink.weekend, facts are facts, it is your body though so do what you want with it.

So when you say "homemade" did you actually husk the brown coconut yourself, as well as grind it? Or did you buy dry pre ground coconut from the store. This Pacific Islander would like to know.

Nuka_Gina

I'm such a dairy fanatic that switching to soy milk really helped me. I like substituting coconut oil in my baking but I've never tried the milk before. Coconut oil is great in shakes, too. Sooo creamy!

VitaSh

I am very partial to Cashew milk at the moment, the unsweetened version is surprisingly creamy and very low in calories cup for cup. My next favorite is a blend of almond and coconut milk that Silk also makes (the blend tastes best imo). I put both either in cereal, coffee, baking, anything really. I've lost the taste for regular milk now. I get way more than enough protein with my fish heavy diet and protein powder (protein powder tastes delicious with these milks as well).

Whole regular milk makes me want to vomit, so for each their own, go figure lol. I can only deal with whole milk as an addition to coffee (a tbsp) and no more.

stevencloser

alexsondra34 wrote: »

http://bbcgoodfood.com/howto/guide/ingredient-focus-coconut-milk

http://thepaleomom.com/2012/04/recipe-homemade-coconut-milk.html

you cannot compare store bought processed stuff with homemade ever, if you enter homemade coconut milk on the food search you'll see it has 67 calories per 200ml, as it is mostly water and if you want you can even skim the solidified cream and it will be even lower, i use a ratio of 1/3 coconut to 3 parts water.

And for the people who takes a fence at my comment that milk is not good for you ,do your research before you start waving your fists in anger http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2003/dec/13/foodanddrink.weekend, facts are facts, it is your body though so do what you want with it.

Calling an 11 year old opinion article with 0 links to sources facts is a bit of an exaggeration.

belimawr

neanderthin wrote: »

They (So Delicious Brand) referred to animal saturated fat as sinister. wow. Also it's not just coconut milk, it a formula and probably why it's lower in calories and fat. Basically it's a coconut type drink and not actually just coconut milk. Mystery solved.

Yes, looking at the previous poster's statement I agreed they're likely the same thing.

I had never seen that statement by So Delicious. Had I known about that I'd have never bought it, even on sale. A company that makes such a statement is just asinine. Add on top of that, a misleading name for the product, last product I buy of theirs.

amusedmonkey

OdesAngel wrote: »

alexsondra34 wrote: »

http://bbcgoodfood.com/howto/guide/ingredient-focus-coconut-milk

http://thepaleomom.com/2012/04/recipe-homemade-coconut-milk.html

you cannot compare store bought processed stuff with homemade ever, if you enter homemade coconut milk on the food search you'll see it has 67 calories per 200ml, as it is mostly water and if you want you can even skim the solidified cream and it will be even lower, i use a ratio of 1/3 coconut to 3 parts water.

And for the people who takes a fence at my comment that milk is not good for you ,do your research before you start waving your fists in anger http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2003/dec/13/foodanddrink.weekend, facts are facts, it is your body though so do what you want with it.

So when you say "homemade" did you actually husk the brown coconut yourself, as well as grind it? Or did you buy dry pre ground coconut from the store. This Pacific Islander would like to know.

Yeah.. that's just watered down coconut, akin to mixing milk with water and calling it low fat. Traditionally coconut milk is made with just enough water to facilitate "milking" the natural liquids out of minced coconut flesh. Either way, if you like your coconut milk that's fine, but fear mongering is not.

liftingandlipstick

belimawr wrote: »

Alatariel75 wrote: »

HUGE difference between coconut milk and coconut water. Coconut milk is hugely rich, creamy and very high in calories. Used in a lot of Asian cooking, particularly Thai. very coconutty. Coconut water is just weird.

Nope, not coconut water. I had the So Delicious brand coconut "milk" as I wanted to give it a try on sale. I stand by my statement, it has a hint of flavor, but really not that much IMO.

Looking at the package however and your statement, while they call it milk, it may in fact fit your definition as water, as it is certainly not high in calories - forty per one cup serving.

This. Maybe it's the brand, because I tried both their unsweetened, and vanilla unsweetened and it very much tasted like water. Or slightly vanilla flavored water. Not at all coconutty and not at all creamy like I want out of my milk.

Keep in mind, most grocery stores carry two kinds of coconut milk: the So Delicious/Silk etc in a carton that are meant to be a milk replacement, and fail miserably, and Thai Kitchen/etc in a can that are meant to cook with. The milk replacement ones are typically under 50 cals per cup, the cooking ones (unless you specifically buy the light version) are more like 200. While I love cooking with coconut milk (and I do buy the light version), I can't see drinking it straight.

monikker

I eat enough other coconut products to get the benefit of coconut that coconut milk seems kinda useless and expensive to me. I drink milk mainly for the protein - coconut milk has none. So I drink either dairy milk or, now that I'm in a caloric deficit phase and want fewer carbs, I drink unsweetened organic soy milk. Very tasty, almost matches the protein of dairy, and has 1/3 the carbs of dairy.