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  • futuremanda
    futuremanda Posts: 816 Member
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    Yes, aim to net at least 1500.

    Do you weigh your food? And do you log every bit of it -- cooking oil, mints, butter, fruit, etc? I only ask because if you're feeling full, you may be closer to netting 1500 than you think, and may not need to adjust as much. No sense trying to force yourself to eat another 600 cals if you'd really only need to bump up say, 300.

    Also, if you haven't added in any kind of strength training (weights, bodyweight, etc), it is worth considering, as it helps maintain your muscle mass as you lose.

    And I completely envy your ability to eat at 5:30, work 'til 11 pm, then do cardio, all the while not having eaten another bite. I'd feel so sick if I tried that. If you could fit in an evening snack to help fuel that workout, you could add something in there. (*When* you eat won't matter for weight loss, the don't eat at night thing is a myth, if that's why you were avoiding it.)
  • mikeshockley
    mikeshockley Posts: 684 Member
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    It's great to come no her and get advice and support, but since this involves your health, you should also discuss this with your doctor. Seriously.
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
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    With only cardio, say goodbye to a healthy amount of muscle mass as part of that almost 1 lb a day weight loss.

    You may desire that later, actually sooner too since it plays a part in even just your basic metabolism.

    Since as you weigh less you have to eat less to keep losing (or exercise even more to burn calories) - if already at the low end, what happens to keep reducing as you need to?
    - How low can you go .....
    - Or how much time do you have for exercise ....

    Usually adherence and sustaining it becomes the issue then down the road. But start out right now, you can finish it timely later.
  • nothingblooms
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    A I started walking on the treadmill at work and eating about 2,000 calories a day. I have since lost 28 pounds in the last 32 days and I eat around 1,200-1,400 calories per day and do the treadmill workout (says 350 calories burned) 7 days per week. Is this safe to continue?

    Sorry, you said that you started by eating 2,000 calories a day but now you're eating 1,200-1,400 a day?

    My maintenance calories is 1750. In order for me to lose .5 lb/week I need to eat 1350 calories a day. I am a 125 lb, 25 (almost 26) year old woman.

    You should not be eating the same amount as me in order to lose weight.

    I did some research on what I was eating before starting this, I was eating anywhere between a ridiculous 8000-10000 calories per day. Yeah I am sure I started a bit drastic, but it was assuring to see the pounds drop off, 10 pounds in a little over a week.
  • nothingblooms
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    Yes, aim to net at least 1500.

    Do you weigh your food? And do you log every bit of it -- cooking oil, mints, butter, fruit, etc? I only ask because if you're feeling full, you may be closer to netting 1500 than you think, and may not need to adjust as much. No sense trying to force yourself to eat another 600 cals if you'd really only need to bump up say, 300.

    Also, if you haven't added in any kind of strength training (weights, bodyweight, etc), it is worth considering, as it helps maintain your muscle mass as you lose.

    And I completely envy your ability to eat at 5:30, work 'til 11 pm, then do cardio, all the while not having eaten another bite. I'd feel so sick if I tried that. If you could fit in an evening snack to help fuel that workout, you could add something in there. (*When* you eat won't matter for weight loss, the don't eat at night thing is a myth, if that's why you were avoiding it.)

    Lot's of water helps, and trust me I am hungry when I get home but after I do my cardio I am not hungry, just ready for bed.
  • SingRunTing
    SingRunTing Posts: 2,604 Member
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    You should be netting at least 1500 calories (probably more, but that's the absolute minimum for a male). Meaning that if you do 300 calories worth of exercise, you should eat 1800 calories to net 1500.

    What does MFP give you for a calorie goal when you put your stats in?
    3,400 is the normal per day to maintain MFP says 2400, and that would be at 1,000 calorie deficit. So I am eating at about a 2,000 calorie deficit per day and then exercising on top of that.

    If MFP is giving you 2400 calories for a 2lb a week rate of loss, you should be netting 2400 calories.

    Losing weight too quickly is bad for your health and you probably won't be happy with your body afterward. You will lose a lot of muscle mass losing faster than 2lbs a week.

    This is a marathon, not a sprint. Please lose slowly and safely so that you can stick around for your child.
  • 999tigger
    999tigger Posts: 5,235 Member
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    Too little- talk to your Dr and do it with medical supervision.
  • nothingblooms
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    I will attempt to eat more food, it's just quite satisfying to see the app tell me that I will be at 270 lbs in 5 weeks. I am sure I will not be able to keep up such a high deficit for too much longer. Is it so bad to do for a short amount of time? Say 2 months. I put my calorie net goal at 1,500 we will see. That should still be about 3 or more lbs per week.
  • fbmandy55
    fbmandy55 Posts: 5,263 Member
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    You should absolutely continue exercising and making good food choices, but most men need about 1800 calories a day for basic body functions. You will still lose weight eating that, don't worry.

    My problem has been mostly psychological possibly, but I get to a certain amount of food and I just feel full, trust me this has never happened before starting myfitnesspal. Unless I am out at a restaurant I cannot get myself to eat any more than the 1200-1400 calories. Should I stop the cardio? Is it dangerous to have a net of 900 calories?

    Let me tell you what happened to me. As a 24 year old female who started out at around 270lbs, I quickly started losing at 1200 calories a day. I was so excited to be losing I often went to 1000 calories a day. I lost the weight fast however it came back on just as quickly. I'm now having fertility issues and my doctor said it's linked to my fluctuating weight.

    So you may be feeling the success of losing weight quickly, but to lose it in a drastic way is not good for long term success. Lose is slow in a way that you can maintain for life.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
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    I will attempt to eat more food, it's just quite satisfying to see the app tell me that I will be at 270 lbs in 5 weeks. I am sure I will not be able to keep up such a high deficit for too much longer. Is it so bad to do for a short amount of time? Say 2 months. I put my calorie net goal at 1,500 we will see. That should still be about 3 or more lbs per week.

    Multiple people, I believe, have warned you that you will be losing mostly muscle if you try to be so aggressive. Is that a concern for you?
  • nothingblooms
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    heybales wrote: »
    With only cardio, say goodbye to a healthy amount of muscle mass as part of that almost 1 lb a day weight loss.

    You may desire that later, actually sooner too since it plays a part in even just your basic metabolism.

    Since as you weigh less you have to eat less to keep losing (or exercise even more to burn calories) - if already at the low end, what happens to keep reducing as you need to?
    - How low can you go .....
    - Or how much time do you have for exercise ....

    Usually adherence and sustaining it becomes the issue then down the road. But start out right now, you can finish it timely later.

    I plan on doing weight training, however I attempted a few push ups, 2 days ago and I am still brutally sore. I don't really have a gym around here that is affordable so cardio for now until the near future.
  • nothingblooms
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    I will attempt to eat more food, it's just quite satisfying to see the app tell me that I will be at 270 lbs in 5 weeks. I am sure I will not be able to keep up such a high deficit for too much longer. Is it so bad to do for a short amount of time? Say 2 months. I put my calorie net goal at 1,500 we will see. That should still be about 3 or more lbs per week.

    Multiple people, I believe, have warned you that you will be losing mostly muscle if you try to be so aggressive. Is that a concern for you?

    Yes my goal was to lose enough weight to start exercising regularly, I was able to do it a lot faster than anticipated, that is why I was going to attempt push ups and ab crunches, as I have said I do not have any weights or anything at the moment.
  • girlviernes
    girlviernes Posts: 2,402 Member
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    I will attempt to eat more food, it's just quite satisfying to see the app tell me that I will be at 270 lbs in 5 weeks. I am sure I will not be able to keep up such a high deficit for too much longer. Is it so bad to do for a short amount of time? Say 2 months. I put my calorie net goal at 1,500 we will see. That should still be about 3 or more lbs per week.

    That puts you at 4 lbs per week and is too low for you. You need to be netting at least 1800, and realistically 2400 as MFP recommends is probably ideal. If you want to net less than 1800, get thee to a specialist who can help you to do so safely.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
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    I will attempt to eat more food, it's just quite satisfying to see the app tell me that I will be at 270 lbs in 5 weeks. I am sure I will not be able to keep up such a high deficit for too much longer. Is it so bad to do for a short amount of time? Say 2 months. I put my calorie net goal at 1,500 we will see. That should still be about 3 or more lbs per week.

    Multiple people, I believe, have warned you that you will be losing mostly muscle if you try to be so aggressive. Is that a concern for you?

    Yes my goal was to lose enough weight to start exercising regularly, I was able to do it a lot faster than anticipated, that is why I was going to attempt push ups and ab crunches, as I have said I do not have any weights or anything at the moment.

    But you're still talking about setting a goal that has you losing at too fast of a pace.
  • nothingblooms
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    I will attempt to eat more food, it's just quite satisfying to see the app tell me that I will be at 270 lbs in 5 weeks. I am sure I will not be able to keep up such a high deficit for too much longer. Is it so bad to do for a short amount of time? Say 2 months. I put my calorie net goal at 1,500 we will see. That should still be about 3 or more lbs per week.

    That puts you at 4 lbs per week and is too low for you. You need to be netting at least 1800, and realistically 2400 as MFP recommends is probably ideal. If you want to net less than 1800, get thee to a specialist who can help you to do so safely.

    You are right, I miscalculated that somehow. I wanted to get to about 3 lbs per week, which I think should be perfectly fine.
  • SingRunTing
    SingRunTing Posts: 2,604 Member
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    heybales wrote: »
    With only cardio, say goodbye to a healthy amount of muscle mass as part of that almost 1 lb a day weight loss.

    You may desire that later, actually sooner too since it plays a part in even just your basic metabolism.

    Since as you weigh less you have to eat less to keep losing (or exercise even more to burn calories) - if already at the low end, what happens to keep reducing as you need to?
    - How low can you go .....
    - Or how much time do you have for exercise ....

    Usually adherence and sustaining it becomes the issue then down the road. But start out right now, you can finish it timely later.

    I plan on doing weight training, however I attempted a few push ups, 2 days ago and I am still brutally sore. I don't really have a gym around here that is affordable so cardio for now until the near future.

    Try the "you are your own gym" program for strength training. It's a body weight program and the only equipment you need are things that you should already have around the house (towel, door, table, etc). You can find the pdf online, but I highly recommend the app. It's a paid app, but well worth the $3.

    Please eat more. You shouldn't starve yourself thin. It doesn't work well.

  • nothingblooms
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    heybales wrote: »
    With only cardio, say goodbye to a healthy amount of muscle mass as part of that almost 1 lb a day weight loss.

    You may desire that later, actually sooner too since it plays a part in even just your basic metabolism.

    Since as you weigh less you have to eat less to keep losing (or exercise even more to burn calories) - if already at the low end, what happens to keep reducing as you need to?
    - How low can you go .....
    - Or how much time do you have for exercise ....

    Usually adherence and sustaining it becomes the issue then down the road. But start out right now, you can finish it timely later.

    I plan on doing weight training, however I attempted a few push ups, 2 days ago and I am still brutally sore. I don't really have a gym around here that is affordable so cardio for now until the near future.

    Try the "you are your own gym" program for strength training. It's a body weight program and the only equipment you need are things that you should already have around the house (towel, door, table, etc). You can find the pdf online, but I highly recommend the app. It's a paid app, but well worth the $3.

    Please eat more. You shouldn't starve yourself thin. It doesn't work well.

    Excellent idea. I will attempt that and if all else fails I will have to join the YMCA here. I will eat at least a net of 1,800 per day. Obviously that will not be possible some days, that is alright isn't it?
  • tulips_and_tea
    tulips_and_tea Posts: 5,717 Member
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    heybales wrote: »
    With only cardio, say goodbye to a healthy amount of muscle mass as part of that almost 1 lb a day weight loss.

    You may desire that later, actually sooner too since it plays a part in even just your basic metabolism.

    Since as you weigh less you have to eat less to keep losing (or exercise even more to burn calories) - if already at the low end, what happens to keep reducing as you need to?
    - How low can you go .....
    - Or how much time do you have for exercise ....

    Usually adherence and sustaining it becomes the issue then down the road. But start out right now, you can finish it timely later.

    I plan on doing weight training, however I attempted a few push ups, 2 days ago and I am still brutally sore. I don't really have a gym around here that is affordable so cardio for now until the near future.

    Try the "you are your own gym" program for strength training. It's a body weight program and the only equipment you need are things that you should already have around the house (towel, door, table, etc). You can find the pdf online, but I highly recommend the app. It's a paid app, but well worth the $3.

    Please eat more. You shouldn't starve yourself thin. It doesn't work well.

    Excellent idea. I will attempt that and if all else fails I will have to join the YMCA here. I will eat at least a net of 1,800 per day. Obviously that will not be possible some days, that is alright isn't it?

    Yes. It doesn't have to be exact. In fact, you may want to average out your calories for the week instead of per day.

    I also typed out a post re: "You are your own gym" but I see others beat me to it! Try those. You'll want to keep as much muscle as possible plus it will help your skin to adapt as you lose weight.
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
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    Look at it this way. You are doing this 80% right. Up your calories a bit and you're golden.

    Since you did this for health and to be around for your future children, remember that eating at too low a deficit means your body is pirating protein from your muscles to make up the difference. The body isn't picky and might just start pirating say, from your heart muscle.

    Don't lose focus on why you started this in the first place.