Cut first or build muscle first?

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  • Brad805
    Brad805 Posts: 289 Member
    I know you were not offended by the lardazz comment. I was wondering something similar and posed the question to Layne Norton and he told exactly that. It has always stuck in my mind. You see lots of guys going crazy with food and that seems excessive. Lyle McDonald suggests mass gain/loss cycles where you bounce between 10 - 17% BF.

    Here is another macro calculator. http://iifym.com/IIFYM-calculator/
  • Warchortle
    Warchortle Posts: 2,197 Member
    checked out leangains?
  • brillmer
    brillmer Posts: 1,268 Member
    @brillmer
    17 yrs
    5ft 9in
    135lbs
    workout 3 days a week, all full body workouts. The stronglifts 5x5 routine if you've heard of it. And i've just started.
    Goals: gain 1-2lb mass per month, with as little fat gain as possible.

    Yes, I did SL 5x5 for about 10 weeks.. I know it very well.

    I would say to eat anywhere from 2200-2500 per day on your workout days, and about 2000 on off days (assuming you dont do any other cardio or workouts)
  • nanosuitninja
    nanosuitninja Posts: 30 Member
    Ok, gathering that i'm fairly content with my current bf% (for the moment) i think i'm going to hit the strength training with high calories for some months, or until i'm happy with my mass. Anyway thanks for the replies everyone, wish me luck. And i think it's about time i went anabolic, and hit the sack. Night.
  • grantdumas7
    grantdumas7 Posts: 802 Member
    Those electronic devices are inaccurate so you are probably not 16% bf. I bet you are around 11-13%. I am guessing your waist is 30-31" If all of this accurate, I would do a clean bulk. Also look at doing a routine called Icecream fitness 5x5 for novice. Jason Blaha has a channel on youtube called icecreamfitness. His 5x5 is similar to stronglifts but it adds a few more movements that stronglifts neglect. Here is the link.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feY6vi6ORXo
  • brillmer
    brillmer Posts: 1,268 Member
    Ok, gathering that i'm fairly content with my current bf% (for the moment) i think i'm going to hit the strength training with high calories for some months, or until i'm happy with my mass. Anyway thanks for the replies everyone, wish me luck. And i think it's about time i went anabolic, and hit the sack. Night.

    just make sure you aren't adding too many calories
    a common mistake with people trying to "bulk" is they just eat lots of garbage and think they can work it off

    thats not how it works

    add 300 CLEAN AND HEALTHY calories or so to what you're currently doing, and see how you adjust.

    ;) gl~
  • jennifershoo
    jennifershoo Posts: 3,198 Member
    Bump
  • El_Cunado
    El_Cunado Posts: 359 Member
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    I use this calculator to find out my numbers: http://www.1percentedge.com/ifcalc/
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    Thanks for the link.
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    Hi guys, I'm pretty new, first post right here.

    I'm currently sitting at 16% bodyfat, my main goals are to build muscle but to do so whilst staying lean.
    I'm not looking to do a traditional 'bulk' as some bodybuilders do to gain more muscle, as i am a little
    worried about losing the fat afterwards. Just wondering should i get rid of the excess fat first and build
    muscle second or the other way around?

    it really seems like you've answered your own question
  • BonaFideUK
    BonaFideUK Posts: 313 Member
    Here is some good advice that I think applies to you OP

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bZ319X3CTs

    Although I disagree about the 1 year time scale, everything else is solid advice.
  • nanosuitninja
    nanosuitninja Posts: 30 Member
    Great find on that vid, thanks :D

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