Juicing

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  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    I believe this kind of diet is detrimental to the neural pathways

    I believe this kind of thread confirms quite how detrimental an effect it can have

  • branflakes1980
    branflakes1980 Posts: 2,516 Member
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    janejellyroll wrote: »
    wizzybeth wrote: »
    I understand that. I guess I just saw no reason earlier in the thread for people to call the OP a troll. Being misinformed or posting inaccurate information is one thing; calling someone a troll is not necessary, IMHO. It just makes drama escalate.

    I don't know if OP is a troll or not, but some of the early posts were consistent with things that trolls have said ("I'm not hungry on 600 calories, the diet pills take care of that," etc). I can understand why some people concluded that this thread wasn't legitimate.

    Jelly roll wants to talk about me being a troll when I say im
    branflakes1980 wrote: »
    wizzybeth wrote: »
    I understand that. I guess I just saw no reason earlier in the thread for people to call the OP a troll. Being misinformed or posting inaccurate information is one thing; calling someone a troll is not necessary, IMHO. It just makes drama escalate.

    There was 2 posts that made it get questioned but then the comment about diet pills put everyone over the edge. Also, did you notice that she thanked you for your post and then stated that she has to add lemon to get it to taste like the store's (after she has argued for 2 pages that store bought juice doesn't taste as good as home made juice)? She is intentionally backpedalling, throwing out misinformation and attempting to get a rise out of people. That is the definition of a troll.

    Wow! So by saying I add lemons to orange juice that makes me contradicting to myself ?? No if you read I believe that home made is way better than store juice period!
    And since when is taking diet pills while your dieting such a bad thing ! If you ever took them you know it craves your appetite some people differently ! That's how I'm not as hungry as I guess I shroud be ! I know now I have to eat more and I appreciated all the comments that people gave me advice wise! You people calling me a troll when I had a question is crazy or you have nothing better to do but to make yourselves sons correct online . This is an advice community . I stick by making juice at home is good for me ." Oh you see how she said she has to add lemon. She's contradicting herself" get over yourself! Your looking for a reason to argue ! Not to help .

    Incorrect, I love fresh juice. And no, you saying that you add lemons to orange juice does not make you contradicting yourself however you saying "I add lemons to my orange juice to get it to taste like the store's juice" is contradicting yourself after you spent the last 2 pages of this thread arguing with people about how store bought juice is not as good for you and doesn't taste as good. I am not trying to argue, just handing out free advice that diet pills are not good for you, and that when you state things as facts that are not actually facts that is not helpful to people who read these forums for "factual" information on things that can effect their health. That is all, no need to look any further into it!

  • lynn_glenmont
    lynn_glenmont Posts: 10,106 Member
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    janejellyroll wrote: »
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    janejellyroll wrote: »
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    janejellyroll wrote: »
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    No sugar is not the only reason just stating its all natural going into our bodies .

    How is the sugar in juice that you purchase in the store "unnatural"?

    Any juice you usually buy in stores in concentrate . Not close to the real deal. Even if it says 100% juice it's still not as good as making it in your home. Especially if you add your own vegetables to the juice like kale or collard greens . I personally like to known everything that's being put in. Read the juice labels next time you go to the store or if you. Have it you will see they add a lot of other things than juice . I don't want all that added stuff

    I have purchased not from concentrate juice at stores all over the US, usually at regular grocery stores. I'm not really sure what you think the concentration is doing that is negative, but there are options available for people who wish to avoid it.

    I do read the label when I buy juice. It contains juice from a piece of fruit. There are no other ingredients. If you don't want anything added to your juice, there are plenty of options that meet your needs.

    If you want to juice at home, that isn't a problem. I like to make many things at home that I can purchase because I like the taste of mine better or I find the process pleasant. But you seem to be doing this from a place of misunderstanding (or possibly fear) and I don't think that it is based on valid reasons. It also seems to be inconsistent. You put all this thought into juice, but you eat Jell-O, a food that is much more processed and contains many more "unknowns" than a bottle of juice.

    Look If you feel fine drinking juice from the stores go ahead . I don't think their as good as making it from home.

    Yes, I understand that. My question is: do you have a valid reason for thinking that?
    Your getting more vitamins and minerals from fresh juicing . And most 100% juice your buying has added sugar that I don't particularly want

    Unless you're growing or picking your own fruit and juicing it immediately, you're probably getting less vitamins and minerals than you would in store-bought juice which, for reasons of quality control and economics, is probably much fresher when juiced (and concentrated and frozen, if applicable) in plants near the fields than the produce you're buying in a grocery store, which likely was shipped a great distance for an extended period of time before reaching the store. You probably want to look for canned or frozen juice, or juice in dark-colored bottles, to minimize any degradation from light exposure.


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  • fishshark
    fishshark Posts: 1,886 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    OP, I support you completely. Ignore the naysayers!! Feel free to send me a friend request if you'd like.

    you support someone consuming a juice, jello, and some yogurt for their entire days calories? I hope you support her to conquer her bad relationship with food. she admitted to eating 600 calories, if that a day. Who would ever support that.
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  • vgzhary1
    vgzhary1 Posts: 1
    You should try a meal replacement shake with a low calorie intake and a high protein intake. Veggies and fruits although consists of some vitamins and minerals they also hold a lot of water. Your just putting yourself through a crash. You can aim to eat a good breakfast and snack low fat or fat free yogurt, jello, etc etc and replace your lunch and dinner with meal replacement shakes which will have you at about 900 calories a day.

  • JSurita2
    JSurita2 Posts: 1,304 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    fishshark wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    OP, I support you completely. Ignore the naysayers!! Feel free to send me a friend request if you'd like.

    you support someone consuming a juice, jello, and some yogurt for their entire days calories? I hope you support her to conquer her bad relationship with food. she admitted to eating 600 calories, if that a day. Who would ever support that.
    You must be new here.

    I'm sort of new here and even I read the sarcasm all over that post.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    vgzhary1 wrote: »
    You should try a meal replacement shake with a low calorie intake and a high protein intake. Veggies and fruits although consists of some vitamins and minerals they also hold a lot of water. Your just putting yourself through a crash. You can aim to eat a good breakfast and snack low fat or fat free yogurt, jello, etc etc and replace your lunch and dinner with meal replacement shakes which will have you at about 900 calories a day.

    Bad advice is...bad
  • fishshark
    fishshark Posts: 1,886 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    fishshark wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    OP, I support you completely. Ignore the naysayers!! Feel free to send me a friend request if you'd like.

    you support someone consuming a juice, jello, and some yogurt for their entire days calories? I hope you support her to conquer her bad relationship with food. she admitted to eating 600 calories, if that a day. Who would ever support that.
    You must be new here.

    i assumed u were being sarcastic until you asked her for a friend request then it seemed legit.
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    dmrgriff wrote: »
    I asked for advice I'm just starting to diet again you guys aren't posting to my post at all. Some people are good response the rest are trolls!!! Bold is not needed I can read thank you. My family is as healthy ever I don't make my family eat as I do my kids eat fine and normal as any growing child ! If you never juiced I wouldn't expect you to know how amazing it is for people . Not once did I say that's all I feel my kids or family read don't speculate. It makes you sound ignorant . I asked for advice and I got it . Thanks

    You stated that you're underrating by 800 calories a day. You're not going to get supported for that. There are a lot of "lurkers" on MFP, (people who read but don't participate in the forums). Our community is not going to support unhealthy habits.
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  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    I believe this kind of diet is detrimental to the neural pathways

    I believe this kind of thread confirms quite how detrimental an effect it can have

    The brain does require fuel to operate properly.
  • MKEgal
    MKEgal Posts: 3,250 Member
    Sorry for the necropost, but in case someone does a search looking for info, I want them to find
    solid scientific reasons to dissuade them from 'juicing'.

    Drinking a lot of juice is not a healthy way to lose weight, and if you go over your necessary calories you _won't_
    lose weight. Eating calories tells your body it's full. Drinking calories does not.

    Here's a good place to start searching for reliable peer-reviewed research about health topics:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19110020
    The effect of fruit in different forms on energy intake and satiety at a meal
    "whole apple increased satiety more than applesauce or apple juice... results suggest that solid fruit affects satiety
    more than pureed fruit or juice, and that eating fruit at the start of a meal can reduce energy intake."
    The abstract has a link to the full article, for free.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6259919
    The role of dietary fiber in satiety, glucose, and insulin: studies with fruit and fruit juice
    "Satiety, assessed by two subjective scoring systems, was greater after whole fruit than after juice and the return of
    appetite was delayed. With oranges, as previously reported with apples, there was a significantly smaller insulin
    response to fruit than to juice and less postabsorptive fall in plasma glucose."

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17579632
    Effects of food form on appetite and energy intake in lean and obese young adults
    "total daily energy intake was significantly higher ... on days the beverage forms of the high-carbohydrate, -fat and
    -protein foods were ingested... This was due more to a weak effect on satiety"
    (IOW, solid foods are more satisfying, even if the liquid form has the same # of calories.)


    For advice on how to lose weight in a healthy way, read these, especially sexypants.
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1080242/a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10012907/logging-accuracy-consistency-and-youre-probably-eating-more-than-you-think

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/819925/the-basics-dont-complicate-it/p1

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/872212/youre-probably-eating-more-than-you-think/p1

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/833026/important-posts-to-read/p1
  • Marianna93637
    Marianna93637 Posts: 230 Member
    edited August 2015
    The bottom line is to lose weight you have to be at a calorie deficiency, but you also need to have enough of it. Your body needs calories to actually function. Less than 1200 calories are not enough, and are not even sustainable on the long run. You need lots of protein for muscles but also for your entire body to function, you need carbs (if you don't, you'll have a hard time concentrating and have crazy headaches) and you need some fat for some vitamins to work, and in general. Where are you going to get your minerals, vitamin Bs, D, etc? You will get plenty of A and C from fruits, but there are more. How about your calcium, etc?

    I'm not a fan of juicing. To drink a cup of juice that has 2 oranges and 1 apple (and hopefully vegetables) already has a lot of sugar, and you're discarding all the great stuff (fiber especially). It's actually better if you drink smoothies when you use the entire fruit / vegetable.
    But juicing is not the problem here, it's your super low calories. You won't e losing that way, not on the long run, and not in a healthy way anyways.
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