Short girls and hard time closer to goal

arditarose

Emilia777 wrote: »

taycupcake wrote: »

Emilia777 wrote: »

Hey OP, just wanted to say I hear you on this. I’m 5’4” at around 133 (GW 123ish) and it’s a really pain getting there at this point. I got excited to see you also lift - I’ve been doing Starting Strength for a while now and just love it. I also add in a few weekly runs for cardio, and don’t eat back calories. I ate at 1200 for a while but that got old so I upped to 1300, except it’s killing me how slow my progress is. Besides, I really want to gain muscle too, not just strength, so I’m really torn about the best caloric intake. How do you balance food with weight training?

Well here's the deal for me. When I started lifting my noob gains were great. I gained a lot of strength pretty fast but being in a deficit it eventually stopped and I started feeling more tired and was having trouble lifting which was when I took a break. My plan was to drop another 5 pounds and get down to 125 and then do a slow bulk back to 130 so I could put some muscle on but I'm starting to think if my added cardio doesn't help I might need to do a slow bulk anyway to get my body running more efficiently. If you want to put on muscle, you have to to eat at a surplus, but to lose fat you obviously need a deficit. If I'm lifting and dieting I just make sure I'm getting at least 100g of protein a day. Also before I took a break I was carb cycling, doing less carbs on non-lifting days. How long have you been lifting? Progress will be slow on a deficit, but you should see some change in about 8 weeks I would say (though everyones different).

This was me before lifting:
http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2014/03/29/82187722/progresspic/cZUQUQyCsvsneWbtXdjAZbZSAOCeLYdByGew-610xh.jpg

and this is me after 8 weeks:
http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2014/03/30/82187722/progresspic/dwhcOhejKKacfjrXzIyXzseolmimZAyUxWoz-610xh.jpg

First, that’s awesome progress. Second, I’m definitely in the same boat as you and @arditarose .

I’ve only gotten back into MFP about 6 weeks ago, as I decided it’s time for the last bit of weight to come off, but I had done strength training before about a year ago. I’m still seeing good strength gains at a deficit as well, but it’s getting slower, and it takes me a really long time to recover after a workout. I also eat well over 100g protein per day (magic ticket? I don’t know, but can’t hurt!).

Funny enough, my grand plan is also to get down to 125ish and then start focusing on weight training and do a slow bulk. I am also slightly horrified of the idea of gaining weight on purpose. However, pushing so much on both weights and cardio, while on low cals, is getting really hard on my body - I’m just physically fatigued. Not really sure what to do. I’m tempted to up my cals, but then my weight loss would be even slower. I don’t even know, so I’ll stop talking now. Nice to see I’m not alone

Are you focusing on weight training now though? If you do it now you can save some LBM while you get down to your goal weight, which is really ideal.

Emilia777

arditarose wrote: »

Emilia777 wrote: »

taycupcake wrote: »

Emilia777 wrote: »

Hey OP, just wanted to say I hear you on this. I’m 5’4” at around 133 (GW 123ish) and it’s a really pain getting there at this point. I got excited to see you also lift - I’ve been doing Starting Strength for a while now and just love it. I also add in a few weekly runs for cardio, and don’t eat back calories. I ate at 1200 for a while but that got old so I upped to 1300, except it’s killing me how slow my progress is. Besides, I really want to gain muscle too, not just strength, so I’m really torn about the best caloric intake. How do you balance food with weight training?

Well here's the deal for me. When I started lifting my noob gains were great. I gained a lot of strength pretty fast but being in a deficit it eventually stopped and I started feeling more tired and was having trouble lifting which was when I took a break. My plan was to drop another 5 pounds and get down to 125 and then do a slow bulk back to 130 so I could put some muscle on but I'm starting to think if my added cardio doesn't help I might need to do a slow bulk anyway to get my body running more efficiently. If you want to put on muscle, you have to to eat at a surplus, but to lose fat you obviously need a deficit. If I'm lifting and dieting I just make sure I'm getting at least 100g of protein a day. Also before I took a break I was carb cycling, doing less carbs on non-lifting days. How long have you been lifting? Progress will be slow on a deficit, but you should see some change in about 8 weeks I would say (though everyones different).

This was me before lifting:
http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2014/03/29/82187722/progresspic/cZUQUQyCsvsneWbtXdjAZbZSAOCeLYdByGew-610xh.jpg

and this is me after 8 weeks:
http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2014/03/30/82187722/progresspic/dwhcOhejKKacfjrXzIyXzseolmimZAyUxWoz-610xh.jpg

First, that’s awesome progress. Second, I’m definitely in the same boat as you and @arditarose .

I’ve only gotten back into MFP about 6 weeks ago, as I decided it’s time for the last bit of weight to come off, but I had done strength training before about a year ago. I’m still seeing good strength gains at a deficit as well, but it’s getting slower, and it takes me a really long time to recover after a workout. I also eat well over 100g protein per day (magic ticket? I don’t know, but can’t hurt!).

Funny enough, my grand plan is also to get down to 125ish and then start focusing on weight training and do a slow bulk. I am also slightly horrified of the idea of gaining weight on purpose. However, pushing so much on both weights and cardio, while on low cals, is getting really hard on my body - I’m just physically fatigued. Not really sure what to do. I’m tempted to up my cals, but then my weight loss would be even slower. I don’t even know, so I’ll stop talking now. Nice to see I’m not alone

Are you focusing on weight training now though? If you do it now you can save some LBM while you get down to your goal weight, which is really ideal.

I completely agree on how important it is! I definitely won’t stop lifting, it’s my favourite thing to do (although I also like running). Just like you said, though, I find I’m getting tired at 1300 cals. On the other hand, upping this would mean it will take even longer to lose those extra lbs before I can do a bulk. I think I might up my calories and/or start eating back some exercise cals to make it more sustainable.

What’s your plan of attack?

arditarose

Emilia777 wrote: »

arditarose wrote: »

Emilia777 wrote: »

taycupcake wrote: »

Emilia777 wrote: »

Hey OP, just wanted to say I hear you on this. I’m 5’4” at around 133 (GW 123ish) and it’s a really pain getting there at this point. I got excited to see you also lift - I’ve been doing Starting Strength for a while now and just love it. I also add in a few weekly runs for cardio, and don’t eat back calories. I ate at 1200 for a while but that got old so I upped to 1300, except it’s killing me how slow my progress is. Besides, I really want to gain muscle too, not just strength, so I’m really torn about the best caloric intake. How do you balance food with weight training?

Well here's the deal for me. When I started lifting my noob gains were great. I gained a lot of strength pretty fast but being in a deficit it eventually stopped and I started feeling more tired and was having trouble lifting which was when I took a break. My plan was to drop another 5 pounds and get down to 125 and then do a slow bulk back to 130 so I could put some muscle on but I'm starting to think if my added cardio doesn't help I might need to do a slow bulk anyway to get my body running more efficiently. If you want to put on muscle, you have to to eat at a surplus, but to lose fat you obviously need a deficit. If I'm lifting and dieting I just make sure I'm getting at least 100g of protein a day. Also before I took a break I was carb cycling, doing less carbs on non-lifting days. How long have you been lifting? Progress will be slow on a deficit, but you should see some change in about 8 weeks I would say (though everyones different).

This was me before lifting:
http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2014/03/29/82187722/progresspic/cZUQUQyCsvsneWbtXdjAZbZSAOCeLYdByGew-610xh.jpg

and this is me after 8 weeks:
http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2014/03/30/82187722/progresspic/dwhcOhejKKacfjrXzIyXzseolmimZAyUxWoz-610xh.jpg

First, that’s awesome progress. Second, I’m definitely in the same boat as you and @arditarose .

I’ve only gotten back into MFP about 6 weeks ago, as I decided it’s time for the last bit of weight to come off, but I had done strength training before about a year ago. I’m still seeing good strength gains at a deficit as well, but it’s getting slower, and it takes me a really long time to recover after a workout. I also eat well over 100g protein per day (magic ticket? I don’t know, but can’t hurt!).

Funny enough, my grand plan is also to get down to 125ish and then start focusing on weight training and do a slow bulk. I am also slightly horrified of the idea of gaining weight on purpose. However, pushing so much on both weights and cardio, while on low cals, is getting really hard on my body - I’m just physically fatigued. Not really sure what to do. I’m tempted to up my cals, but then my weight loss would be even slower. I don’t even know, so I’ll stop talking now. Nice to see I’m not alone

Are you focusing on weight training now though? If you do it now you can save some LBM while you get down to your goal weight, which is really ideal.

I completely agree on how important it is! I definitely won’t stop lifting, it’s my favourite thing to do (although I also like running). Just like you said, though, I find I’m getting tired at 1300 cals. On the other hand, upping this would mean it will take even longer to lose those extra lbs before I can do a bulk. I think I might up my calories and/or start eating back some exercise cals to make it more sustainable.

What’s your plan of attack?

I'm not sure how tall you are but 1300 doesn't sound like enough, especially if you're not eating exercise calories back. How fast are you losing?

The past few weeks I had to bump mine down to 1400 for a few days a week, then I'd have a high day or two up at 2000+, which I hoped would average about 1590 net per day, with a .5 lb a week loss. It got me past that 136 hump. Personally I can't keep that up long, so I'm going back into maintenance for a few weeks. If I'm happy in May this way, I'll keep on trying a recomp-if I decide I want to drop a few more pounds I'll go back into a deficit. I'd prefer to just lose the fat and bulk in September but I really don't like deficit eating anymore and think I look pretty small/alright here. We'll see.

Shadowsan

taycupcake wrote: »

- Still have a lot of fat and the goal number is just a number. I'm way more focused on overall appearance so no worries there. But not settling for where I'm at heh

-True. I'm a heavy lifter so I've got the strength training down. I'm thinking I need to up cardio cause I rarely do it.

- yes I do. My tdee is apparently 1580 so I just have so little room for error. It's awful!

You're a heavy lifter right?

Change things up a bit. Go for exhaustion reps.

Excess Post-exercise Oxygen Consumption should help you a fair bit

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excess_post-exercise_oxygen_consumption

Emilia777

arditarose wrote: »

Emilia777 wrote: »

arditarose wrote: »

Emilia777 wrote: »

taycupcake wrote: »

Emilia777 wrote: »

Hey OP, just wanted to say I hear you on this. I’m 5’4” at around 133 (GW 123ish) and it’s a really pain getting there at this point. I got excited to see you also lift - I’ve been doing Starting Strength for a while now and just love it. I also add in a few weekly runs for cardio, and don’t eat back calories. I ate at 1200 for a while but that got old so I upped to 1300, except it’s killing me how slow my progress is. Besides, I really want to gain muscle too, not just strength, so I’m really torn about the best caloric intake. How do you balance food with weight training?

Well here's the deal for me. When I started lifting my noob gains were great. I gained a lot of strength pretty fast but being in a deficit it eventually stopped and I started feeling more tired and was having trouble lifting which was when I took a break. My plan was to drop another 5 pounds and get down to 125 and then do a slow bulk back to 130 so I could put some muscle on but I'm starting to think if my added cardio doesn't help I might need to do a slow bulk anyway to get my body running more efficiently. If you want to put on muscle, you have to to eat at a surplus, but to lose fat you obviously need a deficit. If I'm lifting and dieting I just make sure I'm getting at least 100g of protein a day. Also before I took a break I was carb cycling, doing less carbs on non-lifting days. How long have you been lifting? Progress will be slow on a deficit, but you should see some change in about 8 weeks I would say (though everyones different).

This was me before lifting:
http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2014/03/29/82187722/progresspic/cZUQUQyCsvsneWbtXdjAZbZSAOCeLYdByGew-610xh.jpg

and this is me after 8 weeks:
http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2014/03/30/82187722/progresspic/dwhcOhejKKacfjrXzIyXzseolmimZAyUxWoz-610xh.jpg

First, that’s awesome progress. Second, I’m definitely in the same boat as you and @arditarose .

I’ve only gotten back into MFP about 6 weeks ago, as I decided it’s time for the last bit of weight to come off, but I had done strength training before about a year ago. I’m still seeing good strength gains at a deficit as well, but it’s getting slower, and it takes me a really long time to recover after a workout. I also eat well over 100g protein per day (magic ticket? I don’t know, but can’t hurt!).

Funny enough, my grand plan is also to get down to 125ish and then start focusing on weight training and do a slow bulk. I am also slightly horrified of the idea of gaining weight on purpose. However, pushing so much on both weights and cardio, while on low cals, is getting really hard on my body - I’m just physically fatigued. Not really sure what to do. I’m tempted to up my cals, but then my weight loss would be even slower. I don’t even know, so I’ll stop talking now. Nice to see I’m not alone

Are you focusing on weight training now though? If you do it now you can save some LBM while you get down to your goal weight, which is really ideal.

I completely agree on how important it is! I definitely won’t stop lifting, it’s my favourite thing to do (although I also like running). Just like you said, though, I find I’m getting tired at 1300 cals. On the other hand, upping this would mean it will take even longer to lose those extra lbs before I can do a bulk. I think I might up my calories and/or start eating back some exercise cals to make it more sustainable.

What’s your plan of attack?

I'm not sure how tall you are but 1300 doesn't sound like enough, especially if you're not eating exercise calories back. How fast are you losing?

The past few weeks I had to bump mine down to 1400 for a few days a week, then I'd have a high day or two up at 2000+, which I hoped would average about 1590 net per day, with a .5 lb a week loss. It got me past that 136 hump. Personally I can't keep that up long, so I'm going back into maintenance for a few weeks. If I'm happy in May this way, I'll keep on trying a recomp-if I decide I want to drop a few more pounds I'll go back into a deficit. I'd prefer to just lose the fat and bulk in September but I really don't like deficit eating anymore and think I look pretty small/alright here. We'll see.

Yeah, I’m thinking of moving to a .5/week loss. I’m 5’4” @ 133lbs now. I lost about 8 pounds in the past two months or so (with consistent tracking only for about 4-5 weeks), but would rather eat a bit more to have better recovery times and just generally feel better. I’m definitely not particularly small at this point, lots of wobbly bits left. As I see it, I need to give it time and keep lifting. It’s really helpful to see what other people are at! A winter bulk is a solid idea, and if I make progress on reducing my bf by September I’ll definitely do the same.

arditarose

Emilia777 wrote: »

arditarose wrote: »

Emilia777 wrote: »

arditarose wrote: »

Emilia777 wrote: »

taycupcake wrote: »

Emilia777 wrote: »

Hey OP, just wanted to say I hear you on this. I’m 5’4” at around 133 (GW 123ish) and it’s a really pain getting there at this point. I got excited to see you also lift - I’ve been doing Starting Strength for a while now and just love it. I also add in a few weekly runs for cardio, and don’t eat back calories. I ate at 1200 for a while but that got old so I upped to 1300, except it’s killing me how slow my progress is. Besides, I really want to gain muscle too, not just strength, so I’m really torn about the best caloric intake. How do you balance food with weight training?

Well here's the deal for me. When I started lifting my noob gains were great. I gained a lot of strength pretty fast but being in a deficit it eventually stopped and I started feeling more tired and was having trouble lifting which was when I took a break. My plan was to drop another 5 pounds and get down to 125 and then do a slow bulk back to 130 so I could put some muscle on but I'm starting to think if my added cardio doesn't help I might need to do a slow bulk anyway to get my body running more efficiently. If you want to put on muscle, you have to to eat at a surplus, but to lose fat you obviously need a deficit. If I'm lifting and dieting I just make sure I'm getting at least 100g of protein a day. Also before I took a break I was carb cycling, doing less carbs on non-lifting days. How long have you been lifting? Progress will be slow on a deficit, but you should see some change in about 8 weeks I would say (though everyones different).

This was me before lifting:
http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2014/03/29/82187722/progresspic/cZUQUQyCsvsneWbtXdjAZbZSAOCeLYdByGew-610xh.jpg

and this is me after 8 weeks:
http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2014/03/30/82187722/progresspic/dwhcOhejKKacfjrXzIyXzseolmimZAyUxWoz-610xh.jpg

First, that’s awesome progress. Second, I’m definitely in the same boat as you and @arditarose .

I’ve only gotten back into MFP about 6 weeks ago, as I decided it’s time for the last bit of weight to come off, but I had done strength training before about a year ago. I’m still seeing good strength gains at a deficit as well, but it’s getting slower, and it takes me a really long time to recover after a workout. I also eat well over 100g protein per day (magic ticket? I don’t know, but can’t hurt!).

Funny enough, my grand plan is also to get down to 125ish and then start focusing on weight training and do a slow bulk. I am also slightly horrified of the idea of gaining weight on purpose. However, pushing so much on both weights and cardio, while on low cals, is getting really hard on my body - I’m just physically fatigued. Not really sure what to do. I’m tempted to up my cals, but then my weight loss would be even slower. I don’t even know, so I’ll stop talking now. Nice to see I’m not alone

Are you focusing on weight training now though? If you do it now you can save some LBM while you get down to your goal weight, which is really ideal.

I completely agree on how important it is! I definitely won’t stop lifting, it’s my favourite thing to do (although I also like running). Just like you said, though, I find I’m getting tired at 1300 cals. On the other hand, upping this would mean it will take even longer to lose those extra lbs before I can do a bulk. I think I might up my calories and/or start eating back some exercise cals to make it more sustainable.

What’s your plan of attack?

I'm not sure how tall you are but 1300 doesn't sound like enough, especially if you're not eating exercise calories back. How fast are you losing?

The past few weeks I had to bump mine down to 1400 for a few days a week, then I'd have a high day or two up at 2000+, which I hoped would average about 1590 net per day, with a .5 lb a week loss. It got me past that 136 hump. Personally I can't keep that up long, so I'm going back into maintenance for a few weeks. If I'm happy in May this way, I'll keep on trying a recomp-if I decide I want to drop a few more pounds I'll go back into a deficit. I'd prefer to just lose the fat and bulk in September but I really don't like deficit eating anymore and think I look pretty small/alright here. We'll see.

Yeah, I’m thinking of moving to a .5/week loss. I’m 5’4” @ 133lbs now. I lost about 8 pounds in the past two months or so (with consistent tracking only for about 4-5 weeks), but would rather eat a bit more to have better recovery times and just generally feel better. I’m definitely not particularly small at this point, lots of wobbly bits left. As I see it, I need to give it time and keep lifting. It’s really helpful to see what other people are at! A winter bulk is a solid idea, and if I make progress on reducing my bf by September I’ll definitely do the same.

Wow. I have no been able to lose a pound a week since I was well up in the 140s. I see people doing that and I just...can't. Not that I wouldn't love to. Just doesn't work with my mind or training. Anyway, if you lose slower you'll hold on to more LBM and might like how you look better. Give it a try!

Shadowsan

Shadowsan wrote: »

taycupcake wrote: »

- Still have a lot of fat and the goal number is just a number. I'm way more focused on overall appearance so no worries there. But not settling for where I'm at heh

-True. I'm a heavy lifter so I've got the strength training down. I'm thinking I need to up cardio cause I rarely do it.

- yes I do. My tdee is apparently 1580 so I just have so little room for error. It's awful!

You're a heavy lifter right?

Change things up a bit. Go for exhaustion reps.

Excess Post-exercise Oxygen Consumption should help you a fair bit

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excess_post-exercise_oxygen_consumption

The science behind this is very simple - leaving yourself with lactic acid in your muscles requires energy to break down. That energy will come from the first readily available source - glycogen - but that's all spent (which is why lactic acid exists) so it goes to the next readily available source - triglycerides (fat).

Not only this, but it forces mitochondrial development (the little things inside your muscles that are responsible for utilising energy). This eventually snowballs, meaning the more you do the more you burn, increasing each time.

Note - you WILL feel hungry after a workout like this. It's your bodys way of telling you "my normal energy is spent, feed me!" If you don't feed it too much it'll dig into fat stores.

Chris

Emilia777

arditarose wrote: »

Emilia777 wrote: »

arditarose wrote: »

Emilia777 wrote: »

arditarose wrote: »

Emilia777 wrote: »

taycupcake wrote: »

Emilia777 wrote: »

Hey OP, just wanted to say I hear you on this. I’m 5’4” at around 133 (GW 123ish) and it’s a really pain getting there at this point. I got excited to see you also lift - I’ve been doing Starting Strength for a while now and just love it. I also add in a few weekly runs for cardio, and don’t eat back calories. I ate at 1200 for a while but that got old so I upped to 1300, except it’s killing me how slow my progress is. Besides, I really want to gain muscle too, not just strength, so I’m really torn about the best caloric intake. How do you balance food with weight training?

Well here's the deal for me. When I started lifting my noob gains were great. I gained a lot of strength pretty fast but being in a deficit it eventually stopped and I started feeling more tired and was having trouble lifting which was when I took a break. My plan was to drop another 5 pounds and get down to 125 and then do a slow bulk back to 130 so I could put some muscle on but I'm starting to think if my added cardio doesn't help I might need to do a slow bulk anyway to get my body running more efficiently. If you want to put on muscle, you have to to eat at a surplus, but to lose fat you obviously need a deficit. If I'm lifting and dieting I just make sure I'm getting at least 100g of protein a day. Also before I took a break I was carb cycling, doing less carbs on non-lifting days. How long have you been lifting? Progress will be slow on a deficit, but you should see some change in about 8 weeks I would say (though everyones different).

This was me before lifting:
http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2014/03/29/82187722/progresspic/cZUQUQyCsvsneWbtXdjAZbZSAOCeLYdByGew-610xh.jpg

and this is me after 8 weeks:
http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2014/03/30/82187722/progresspic/dwhcOhejKKacfjrXzIyXzseolmimZAyUxWoz-610xh.jpg

First, that’s awesome progress. Second, I’m definitely in the same boat as you and @arditarose .

I’ve only gotten back into MFP about 6 weeks ago, as I decided it’s time for the last bit of weight to come off, but I had done strength training before about a year ago. I’m still seeing good strength gains at a deficit as well, but it’s getting slower, and it takes me a really long time to recover after a workout. I also eat well over 100g protein per day (magic ticket? I don’t know, but can’t hurt!).

Funny enough, my grand plan is also to get down to 125ish and then start focusing on weight training and do a slow bulk. I am also slightly horrified of the idea of gaining weight on purpose. However, pushing so much on both weights and cardio, while on low cals, is getting really hard on my body - I’m just physically fatigued. Not really sure what to do. I’m tempted to up my cals, but then my weight loss would be even slower. I don’t even know, so I’ll stop talking now. Nice to see I’m not alone

Are you focusing on weight training now though? If you do it now you can save some LBM while you get down to your goal weight, which is really ideal.

I completely agree on how important it is! I definitely won’t stop lifting, it’s my favourite thing to do (although I also like running). Just like you said, though, I find I’m getting tired at 1300 cals. On the other hand, upping this would mean it will take even longer to lose those extra lbs before I can do a bulk. I think I might up my calories and/or start eating back some exercise cals to make it more sustainable.

What’s your plan of attack?

I'm not sure how tall you are but 1300 doesn't sound like enough, especially if you're not eating exercise calories back. How fast are you losing?

The past few weeks I had to bump mine down to 1400 for a few days a week, then I'd have a high day or two up at 2000+, which I hoped would average about 1590 net per day, with a .5 lb a week loss. It got me past that 136 hump. Personally I can't keep that up long, so I'm going back into maintenance for a few weeks. If I'm happy in May this way, I'll keep on trying a recomp-if I decide I want to drop a few more pounds I'll go back into a deficit. I'd prefer to just lose the fat and bulk in September but I really don't like deficit eating anymore and think I look pretty small/alright here. We'll see.

Yeah, I’m thinking of moving to a .5/week loss. I’m 5’4” @ 133lbs now. I lost about 8 pounds in the past two months or so (with consistent tracking only for about 4-5 weeks), but would rather eat a bit more to have better recovery times and just generally feel better. I’m definitely not particularly small at this point, lots of wobbly bits left. As I see it, I need to give it time and keep lifting. It’s really helpful to see what other people are at! A winter bulk is a solid idea, and if I make progress on reducing my bf by September I’ll definitely do the same.

Wow. I have no been able to lose a pound a week since I was well up in the 140s. I see people doing that and I just...can't. Not that I wouldn't love to. Just doesn't work with my mind or training. Anyway, if you lose slower you'll hold on to more LBM and might like how you look better. Give it a try!

You know, I’m not really sure it’s worth it. There’s definitely something to be said about slow and steady! I will for sure change my approach... as soon as I stop being sick. I’ve been down for the count for a week now thanks to a sinus infection, but I try to look at it as an opportunity to reassess. Thanks for your input!